Pistol-packing politicians like added firepower

The Associated Press ^ | 08-04-2003

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Thanks fer the lil' Colt Lightning thar......

Very nice

Value on them is going up as SA 1sts disappear and double-triple in values

Same barrel length, HRs and blued

Mine is a very low 5 digit SN

Hollywood used to put Franzite SA style conversion grips on them to make them look like SAs

Many hate to work on Lightning DA internals but mine works perfectly

Even the Colt *New Army .38DA (Vince & Python prototype) Model 1896 I have is getting dear too

TR had *one, as he also had a 7½" SA .44-40 except his SA was engraved and nickled with carved "TR" Ivories

My nickled/MOP S&W BT circa 1883 .38 has a much lighter trigger and is as fast to draw and fire quickly as any I've ever seen

Jenks at S&W told me original Mother of Pearls are often worth much more then a nice old .38 BT

They also fit all the S&W J frames perfectly and lots of LEOS like antique pre-1999 MOPs on their revolvers

Lots of Border Patrol hotshots swore by them

Chicago mobsters used to like the hammerless BT Safety Grip S&W .38s; Al Capone had one in nickled/MOPs

Hollywood props depts also pulled off the ejector rods on Colt SAs for Civil War flicks

Never showed reloading though

I sometime stuff a "BANG" flag into my Colts or other antique handguns on my wall when libs come over for dinner or parties

I always use old vintage leather rigs for displays; kinda floppy, not real quick draw, many in flap design and/or rawhide stitched border edges; designed for weather protection mostly

Holsters and cartridge belts look nothing like the Hollywood Buscadero low slung movie/TV stuff
And a mini Reb Navy Jack flag in an Asheville Armory carbine muzzle
Many end up collecting antiquey Colts and/or at the range themselves

I'll check that list

Got a URL on that Lightning?

[ASA Vet]

that 148 year old swordcane

I tryed to talk my ex-wifes family into giving me their old family Thai sword.
I figured since I was the only one in the family that knew how to use one,
I, and therefor my sons would have been the logical choice.
Alas it was passed down to the oldest son, who's son sold it for drug money.

[Saturnalia]

They should all be carrying semi-autos in Casull 454.

[autoresponder]

My swordcane was made by a freed slave in Richmond Virginia in 1862 early in the War of Northern Aggression.

He voluntarily joined the Confederate Army and served valiantly under General Robert E. Lee as an expert rifleman.

Hand tooled leather covered and the part that acts as the swords scabboard is held in the off hand to fend off opponents blows.

I have quite a collection of Civil War sabres and firearms from the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War, Civil War, Indian Wars, and the Spanish American War as well as old west revolvers, esp. Colts and derringers.

I have no intention of ever giving any to my son as he is not a FA buff at this time and I would rather have my neice's husband keep them as he's big America history fan and big into horses and western traditions.

Selling off old valuable family possessions for a few bucks is something I will not condone or allow.

I made the dumb error of never letting my uncle and his son know I wanted to buy their RW family used flintlock musket and CW family used percussion carbine.

They both died and the inheriting grandson sold them cheaply to jerks that did not have any family connections to them or respect for traditions.

Lesson:

Always tell your family elders what you are interested in.

I have a fantastic large 1860s figural bronze clock my uncle gave to me before he died that belonged to his older brother, my grandfather, long ago.

I have a Reb saber intertwined pointing vertically within the Spanish explorer (with his drawn sword) Pisarro's arms on the left side of the clock.

It will keep time for me until I kick the bucket. Then perhaps my daughter will get it unless my son expresses more interest in family heirlooms.

[archy]

Ummm, but that's not a 1911A1 you've got pictured there. For one thing, it's a lot better made.

I'll take the M1911A1 as issued, thanks. Mine's a Remington-Rand, though I'm more likely to be carrying one of my Argentine DGFM Modelo 27 versions instead, or my Combat Commander if wearing a sport coat or light jacket.

[archy]

They should all be carrying semi-autos in Casull 454.

At least one Hoosier legislator is a Title II full-auto weapons collector, and carries a .45 M10 Ingram on a fairly routine basis. He was quite happy with it after I had worked it over for him a bit.

I think he's well-served with his little buzzgun, and he's likely much better off with it than with a Casull.<p. -archy-/-

[Shooter 2.5]

I like your posts but I'm missing out on the translation of the abbreviations. MOP, BT, ???

[archy]

C'mon. Do people really NEED swords? :)

Depends on your definition of a sword. If machetes and khukuris are included, there have indeed been times when I needed and used such on a daily basis.

[archy]

"I dislike small caliber guns as self-defense myself, but imagine the response of an attacker who has his hands around your throat when you put two rounds of .22 mag in his groin."

A .22 to the eyeball will stop most anyone, most likely permanently (there's not much between the eye and the brain to interfere with a bullet). A .22 magnum would be especially damaging in such a case. If the perp has his hands on your throat, you are close enough to put a round in his eye. Sounds brutal, but we're talking self-defense here, and self-defense means doing whatever is necessary to save your life, or the life of a loved one.

The Louisiana Highway Patrol issued Hi-Standard 9-shot .22 revolvers as hideout backup guns to their officers back in the late 1970s and early '80s. As I recall, they were .22 rimfire magnums, but I wouldn't swear to that, and there may have been an option or mix available to the individual users. They were commonly carried in a clip-on holster in the tops of the Roper boots then worn as the uniform footwear.

Neither, though, am I usually a big fan of the idea of either derringers or shotloads for personal defense, though one elderly wheelchair-bound woman of my acquaintance finds that combination perfect for her needs. Unable to deal with a double-action trigger pull, the single action hammer of a derringer works well even in her arthritic hands. And hers is loaded with a Remington .45 shot load in the first barrel, with a Speer 200-grain *flying ashtray* in the second. Her intention is to dumop the shot load into the face of any attacker, eliminating the eyes.

If that doesn't work, her fallback option is a second identical handgun, only loaded with a Glaser safety slug for the first try, and another Speer hollowpoint for the second.

She has twice used one of her handguns against an attacker; so far both have not been required, but some vicious animals travel in packs, including but not limited to those on two legs.

It works for her, and probably better than most .22s would.

-archy-/-

[autoresponder]

Sorry!

"MOP" = M-O-P

= Mother of Pearl (grips)

"BT" = Break Top (antique S&W front hinged frames)

I tend to forget this all old stuff

Ever see a Winchester listed in Gun List or Shotgun News?

"OBSWC" = Octagon Barrel Swivel Ring Carbine

Just notices few old issue gems here:

1860 HENRY military inspected CGS SN# 38XX all match. Just acquired from the estate of the grandson of a Confederate soldier who captured it at the Battle of the Crater at Petersburg, VA. Excellent cond. Never cleaned or polished......$38,000

(4 years ago; some Henrys go up to $500,000 at B&B)

'nuther, like my original Colt Army except my *SS is a recent mfg:

RICHARDS 1860 Army Conversion w/rare 2nd style original *shoulder stock. Good patina finish, sharp & tight, good scene w/fine grips. Most original varnish. One of a kind......$12,000

(4 years ago; some Colts have sold for over $500,000)

(probably an 1872 Richards metallic cartridge conversion for Cavalry use)

Mine is circa 1862 Civil War Colt Army mfg. while Sam was still alive and has a rare 12 stop notch 2nd Richards/Springfield Armory cartridge conversion cylinder besides the C&B cylinder.

It's a Reb officer captured Colt, recaptured by Yanks at Atlanta.

Fires percussion cap ignition or 44RF (.451)

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Got another rare Reb captured Colt; 4 digit SN, Model 1862, circa 1861 prototype Pocket Navy .36, converted to .38RF for a New Orleans former Reb Cavalry Captain after shipped to Colt factory in 1872.

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I'll be careful on abbreviations




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[Shooter 2.5]

Thank you and like I said, I do enjoy your posts. I just don't want to miss anything.

[autoresponder]

Ever see a "Rockola" mfg. carbine?

The juke box mfg.?

[Saturnalia]

Well then, he needs an upgrade to a 0.30" Browning.
He can stick in on a swivel attached to his head!

[Redbob]

Now there you go!

That picture of a 1911A1 you posted looks just like my Dad's, the one I learned to shoot on!
Freegards,
Robert

[archy]

That picture of a 1911A1 you posted looks just like my Dad's, the one I learned to shoot on!
Freegards,
Robert
Colt is now making a limited-production version of the WWII-issue M1911A1 pistol. Aside from a very few easily replacable components and the lack of checkering on the trigger, they're virtually indistinguishable from one of those old .45s. At a bit under $1000, it's not at all inexpensive, but there are worse bargains.

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