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Fake "Ask John Lott" Web Site Steals His Identity, Seeks to Discredit Gun Researcher
http://www.2asisters.org
| 8/5/03
| 2nd Amendment Sisters
Posted on 08/05/2003 8:52:26 AM PDT by pabianice
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This felony should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Seems certain they are likely to find a nest of smarmy liberals behind it... 'for the children'...
Any Freeper investigators out there want to try and find the criminals involved?
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posted on
08/05/2003 8:52:27 AM PDT
by
pabianice
To: *bang_list
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posted on
08/05/2003 8:59:35 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(Socialism is the opiate of the intelligentsia.)
To: pabianice
I am not well versed in "E-law", but wouldn't the ISP be legally liable for knowingly hosting a fraudulent web site? I mean, Lott has contacted the ISP and told them about the problem, so they know now. Anyone?
To: pabianice; Joe Brower
I hope that they catch the Rat Frauds responsible for this. It would be nice if they worked for one of the Rat drawfs running for President.
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:02:39 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
To: pabianice
Here is the Whois results. Note the name servers at the bottom...
Domain ID:D98296683-LROR
Domain Name:ASKJOHNLOTT.ORG
Created On:27-Jun-2003 22:10:30 UTC
Last Updated On:27-Jun-2003 22:16:48 UTC
Expiration Date:27-Jun-2004 22:10:30 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R91-LROR
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-03418410
Registrant Name:Mary Rosh
Registrant Organization:Center for Truth
Registrant Street1:380 Main Street
Registrant City:Washington DC
Registrant State/Province:New York
Registrant Postal Code:10012
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9179132591
Registrant
Email:maryrosh@mail.com Admin ID:GODA-23418410
Admin Name:Mary Rosh
Admin Organization:Center for Truth
Admin Street1:380 Main Street
Admin City:Washington DC
Admin State/Province:New York
Admin Postal Code:10012
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.9179132591
Admin
Email:maryrosh@mail.com Billing ID:GODA-33418410
Billing Name:Mary Rosh
Billing Organization:Center for Truth
Billing Street1:380 Main Street
Billing City:Washington DC
Billing State/Province:New York
Billing Postal Code:10012
Billing Country:US
Billing Phone:+1.9179132591
Billing
Email:maryrosh@mail.com Tech ID:GODA-13418410
Tech Name:Mary Rosh
Tech Organization:Center for Truth
Tech Street1:380 Main Street
Tech City:Washington DC
Tech State/Province:New York
Tech Postal Code:10012
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.9179132591
Tech
Email:maryrosh@mail.com Name Server:GW.DATAGRAM.COM
Name Server:NS.CONTAGIOUSMEDIA.ORG
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:06:07 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
To: pabianice
Here's the whois for contagiousmedia.org, note that the name servers once again are shared...
Registrant:
Peretti, Jonah (EGLJTYIIMD)
45 Main Street
12th Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
US
Domain Name: CONTAGIOUSMEDIA.ORG
Administrative Contact:
Peretti, Jonah (JP28089)
jonah@eyebeam.org 45 Main Street
12th Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
US
917-202-1779 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, Inc. (HOST-ORG)
namehost@WORLDNIC.NET 21355 Ridgetop Circle
Dulles, VA 20166
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 123 123 1234
Record expires on 15-Dec-2005.
Record created on 15-Dec-2002.
Database last updated on 5-Aug-2003 12:06:47 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.CONTAGIOUSMEDIA.ORG 38.144.92.91
GW.DATAGRAM.COM 208.253.143.244
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:07:40 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
To: pabianice
Here is another site operated by the same people, trying to further discredit John Lott (this one appears to be under investigation though due to the fact that there is a registrar lock on the domain name):
http://www.whoismaryrosh.com Do note however that "Mary Rosh" appears to be a fake name, taken from a previous situation (you can read more about this by doing a google search for "mary rosh" - it's a long story and sort of off-topic).
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:16:03 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
To: pabianice
he can also complain to the people who register internet names and take possession of the name. Internet squating is not allowed the way it used to be. Especially for fraud.
To: pabianice
To: pabianice
I guess that the most suspicious thing so far is that contagiousmedia.org is registered to on Jonah Peretti, who is known for his use of the internet to distribute emails between himself and Nike (yes, the shoe company) over the internet to cause damage to their brand name. You can read about it here, and it is typical leftist:
http://www.sundayherald.com/26947 Coincidentally, he is an employee of Eyebeam in NY, who uses the same name servers as both askjohnlott.org and contagiousmedia.org.
Jonah Peretti himself is/was a student at MIT where he worked in the media lab. He is well known for being one of the revolutionaries in the area of using the internet in a viral method to further his causes. This would be my prime suspect.
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:29:48 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
To: Charles Martel
Coming soon: The Jonah Peretti perp walk.
To: pabianice
I have met John and he is a kind soft spoken person who has worked hard to find the truth. One thing he hates is taking sides and joining mobs. This is a man who does not deserve a mob attacking him.
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:31:33 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(Here's to Hillary's book sinking like the Clinton 2000 economy)
To: bmwcyle
I'm not making judgements, I'm just posting the openly available information that leads from the site to him, and the fact that it does fit in with how his previous methodology would tend to indicate.
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:34:52 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
To: sc2_ct
Interested parties may wish to contact Mr. Peretti's employer:
EYEBEAM Corp.
45 Main Street, 12th Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
Tel. 718.222.3982 Fax: 718.222.5621
perry@eyebeam.org
To: sc2_ct
I understand that. It is just a shame when a humble man gets plied on when the truth hurts the liberals.
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:36:57 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(Here's to Hillary's book sinking like the Clinton 2000 economy)
To: pabianice
Hmmmm...
The site (www.askjohnlott.org) is running: Apache/1.3.20 Sun Cobalt (Unix)
mod_ssl/2.8.4
OpenSSL/0.9.6b
PHP/4.0.6
mod_auth_pam_external/0.1
FrontPage/4.0.4.3
mod_perl/1.25
on Linux.
At first blush, it would appear that they haven't been keeping up on their security patches. Someone really should notify the people at:
OrgName: Performance Systems International Inc.
OrgID: PSI
Address: 1015 31st Street, NW
City: Washington
StateProv: DC
PostalCode: 20007
Country: US
TechHandle: PSI-NISC-ARIN
TechName: PSINet, Inc.
TechPhone: +1-518-283-8860
TechEmail: hostinfo@psi.com
OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Cogent Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@cogentco.com
OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Cogent Communications
OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgNOCEmail: noc@cogentco.com
OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Allocation
OrgTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgTechEmail: ipalloc@cogentco.com
It'd be a shame if the site were breached and defaced. Lord knows none of us want that.
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:41:13 AM PDT
by
Jay D. Dyson
(Better a Bushbot than a Bubbabot!)
To: pabianice
Mayzel would neither confirm nor deny that Google had taken any action regarding the advertisement, but more than a dozen searches conducted Friday afternoon for variations of "John Lott" and "Ask John Lott" did not result in the ad being displayed.
Google search for
"Ask John Lott". The ad showed up on my first try.
IP Block info for www.askjohnlott.org:
08/05/03 11:31:21 IP block 38.144.92.91
Trying 38.144.92.91 at ARIN
Trying 38.144.92 at ARIN
OrgName: Performance Systems International Inc.
OrgID: PSI
Address: 1015 31st Street, NW
City: Washington
StateProv: DC
PostalCode: 20007
Country: US
NetRange: 38.0.0.0 - 38.255.255.255
CIDR: 38.0.0.0/8
NetName: PSINETA
NetHandle: NET-38-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.PSI.NET
NameServer: NS2.PSI.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 1991-04-16
Updated: 2003-03-14
TechHandle: PSI-NISC-ARIN
TechName: PSINet, Inc.
TechPhone: +1-518-283-8860
TechEmail: hostinfo@psi.com
OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Cogent Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@cogentco.com
OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Cogent Communications
OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgNOCEmail: noc@cogentco.com
OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Allocation
OrgTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgTechEmail: ipalloc@cogentco.com
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-08-04 19:15
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:45:32 AM PDT
by
Ouachita
Comment #18 Removed by Moderator
To: pabianice
askjohnlott.org
"File Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server."
Well that was fast.
To: pabianice
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posted on
08/05/2003 9:51:06 AM PDT
by
Mini-14
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