[Chi-townChief]

So are they now the EpiscoGAYlians?

[Plutarch]

Now I've got to go find where to sign up for whatever Episcopal church splits off.

[sc2_ct]

Well, looks like they've now got themselves a schizm in their church. Why have the gays been all over the media in the last couple weeks? I'm getting really sick of this gay-rights crap , and I don't want my daughter to be exposed to any of this behavior.

Maybe it's time to start FReeping these people. Anyone up for a good protest at that NY high school?

[montag813]

I BEG ALL EPISCOPALS WHO ARE AS APALLED AS WE ARE...LEAVE THE CHURCH NOW!!! FORM YOUR OWN CHURCH OF THE MAJORITY. I SUGGEST YOU CALL IT THE "AMERICAN ANGLICAN CHURCH", IN LINE WITH THE ENGLISH WHO HAVE REFUSED TO BRING THEIR OWN RELIGION INTO THE GUTTER OF HOMOSEXUAL DEPRAVITY.

If this repulsive immoral man were not gay--and left his wife and children to pursue adulterous affairs, he would never had a chance of becoming a bishop. This is disgraceful....LEAVE NOW AND THE PERVERTS' SCHISM WILL FALL LIKE THE HOUSE OF CARDS IT HAS BECOME.

[Loyalist]

PING

[technomage]

I saw this "reverend" on the 700 Club being interviewed. Here is how he rationalizes this. I will paraphrase from memory:

At the time the Bible was written, lifestyles and civilization were different. In the ;ast 100 years or so, beliefs and civilization in general have changed. Homosexuality has become mainstream and acceptable.

There was plenty more, but that is the crux of it.

Excuse me. First off, the Bible is not the word of man, but the word of God. By saying what he said, he infers that God was wrong!! Not likely.

Secondly, this statement also infers that homosexuality was not widely known (or accepted) during all the generations that the Bible was written. Now it is. Again, a blatant falsehood. The reason it is mentioned in the Bible is precisely because man was involved in homosexuality back then and it was WRONG!! Now, history is just repeating itself.

The second coming is close at hand.

Welcome to the Episcopal cult!!

[BunnySlippers]

How did they clear this guy of "charges" so fast? It's even faster than the Catholics clear priests!!!

[CarmelValleyite]

Apparently the sky is falling??????

[WestPacSailor]

WOW! This is surely a sign of something bad. As soon as I come up with 99 reasons why this is bad I'm gonna write 'em up and nail 'em to the door of the church.

[Fifth Business]

Anglicans Unite in Condemnation


Kelly Burke, Religious Affairs Writer

In a rare show of public agreement, the Anglican archbishops of Sydney and Melbourne have condemned the Episcopal Church for its decision.

Melbourne's Archbishop Peter Watson said yesterday that by appointing Canon Gene Robinson, the American church had effectively separated itself from the rest of the Anglican Communion.

"The American church has turned its back on our unity and must bear responsibility for the pain and disunity that will be felt throughout the communion," he said.

His Sydney counterpart, Archbishop Peter Jensen, who recently returned from the US, where he joined forces with conservative primates from Asia and Africa to protest against the impending appointment, described the decision as a watershed for the church.

The American Anglicans were "turning away from the clear teaching of the scriptures", he said.

From: http://www.aplacetostand.org/dspnews.cfm?id=42

[Fifth Business]

Bishop Duncan's Testimony


The Confirmation Hearing for the Rev. Canon V. Gene Robinson


I am Bob Duncan, the Bishop of Pittsburgh. I wish to speak against the confirmation of Canon Robinson.

I want to speak to you about unconstitutional actions and their consequences, consequences among which are NULLITY, CHAOS and INTERVENTION.

The first sentence of our Constitution reads (in part) as follows:

The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America. is a constituent member of the Anglican Communion, a Fellowship within the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, . upholding and propagating the

historic Faith and Order as set forth in the Book of Common Prayer.

Three phrases I call your attention to:

1. A constituent member of the Anglican Communion;

2. Within the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church; and

3. Upholding and propagating the historic Faith and Order. Confirmation of Canon Robinson will be broadly (sweepingly) unconstitutional on these three grounds:

1. Lambeth (1998) and the Primates (2003) have spoken decisively about homosexual behavior as inconsistent with Holy Scripture.

2. Confirmation will be a rejection of the moral and ministry consensus of the universal Church consistent throughout the ages.

3. The action will deny the historic Faith (as to the doctrine of marriage) and Order (as to the doctrine of Apostolicity). This clearly unconstitutional action will be knowing and intentional. Therefore, it will reap at least these three consequences:

1. NULLITY _ From the Arian controversy of the 4 th century a principle was established _ a principle never superseded _ that a convention (council, synod) which acts unconstitutionally (beyond its competence or authority, and in error) may expect all of its actions to be rendered null and void.

2. CHAOS _ That such nullity will free many within the Episcopal Church to disregard all actions of this Convention, its resolutions, canons and its budget.


3. INTERVENTION _ It is precisely an unconstitutional action _ a council acting beyond its competence or authority and in error _ that invites, even demands, intervention from the wider Church, an experience already a part of the life of the Diocese of New Westminster in Canada, and about to befall the Episcopal Church in the United States of America, should this Convention confirm this election.

I thank the Committee for its consideration of these matters

From: http://www.aplacetostand.org/dspnews.cfm?id=44

[esopman]

Thank you for posting the update.

It is over. The mainline Episcopalians will reap the whirlwind. They have no respect for Melekh ha Olam in his holiness or his Word.

Put the trumpet to your lips!
An eagle is over the house of the Lord.
Because the people have broken my covenant,
And rebelled against my law.
Israel cries out to me,
O our God, we acknowledge you!
But Israel has rejected what is good;
An enemy will pursue him,
They set up kings without my consent;
They choose princes without my approval....
Hosea 8:1-4

They will begin to waste away
Under the oppression of the mighty king.
Though Ephrain build many altars for sin offerings,
These have become altars for sinning...

I will send fire upon their cities
That will consume their fortresses.
Hosea 8:10-11.

Woe to the worthless shepherd...Zechariah 11:17

It is important that Episcopalians who are imitators of Christ now leave this Sodom behind, not look back. Love the sinner, pray for the sinner...but reject the sin!

[Diddle E. Squat]

Have they finished voting on changing their name to the 'Corinthian Church'?

[Honorary Serb]

Well, now they've gone and done it, as I originally expected. Lord have mercy.

"When the Episcopalians sneeze, the Lutherans catch cold." Our ELCA convention will be next week, with some expected gay-related action, but no fireworks as in the Episcopal convention. That will come in 2005--I fully expect the gays to get there way in the ELCA also.

The only hope (?) is if the conservative Episcopalians split (starting in October?) and the ELCA mis-leaders get scared that their budget will go down the drain when our conservatives split as well. I almost surely will be part of any such exodus, and I won't be quiet about it.

We all need to pray for and help each other, as good Christians always do.

[4everontheRight]

Satan is alive and well and works in the church!!
Notice I didn't say which church...I think Satan has many bishops, many priest, many ministers of youth, many reverends, many deacons, many...too many. I am sorry to see more and more of this sort of thing not only accepted, but welcomed.
Too many churches have lost their souls and they are leading their flock down the path straight to hell!

[Harold Hill]

... and Screwtape smiles a knowing smile.

[MississippiMan]

II Thessalonians 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition...

The "falling away" is of course the great endtime apostasy clearly prophesied. Is this isn't a falling away of the church, it's hard to imagine what is.

Sickening and disgusting, yet inevitable.

MM

[Arkinsaw]

The homosexual activists could have easily formed their own church and had ANY philosophy they wanted and established ANY policy they wanted on anything.

But its not about that. Its about destroying what exists, not forming something new that suits them. Its essentially about wiping out a centuries old institution by stealing it and transforming it into something alien.

Leave the buildings behind, leave the land behind, leave the money behing, leave it all behind because those things are not the Church. Head out into the wilderness and build something new and better and that has defenses against such a hostile takeover.

Leaving it all behind and starting from nothing can be a good thing.

[Barnacle]

Ping

[sydney smith]

The episcopal church has become a mockery of Christianity.