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Critics of Homosexual Bishop's Confirmation Lament 'Sad Day for Christians'
CNSNews.com ^ | 8/06/03 | Steve Brown

Posted on 08/06/2003 2:25:59 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - Some Christian activists expressed disappointment Tuesday over the election of the Episcopalian Church's first openly homosexual bishop - a vote that occurred after church officials meeting in Minneapolis, Minn., concluded allegations of past sexual misconduct on the part of Rev. Gene Robinson were baseless.

"It's a sad day for Christians everywhere," Peter LaBarbera, senior policy analyst with Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute, told CNSNews.com.

The vote by the House of Bishops had been postponed Monday following the 11th-hour allegations that Robinson had engaged in inappropriate touching with another man at a church event. An investigation was quickly launched into that charge, as well as one revolving around whether a website belonging to an organization Robinson founded for homosexual Episcopalian youth also contained a link to Internet pornography.

Robinson was cleared of any wrongdoing, and the final vote by the House of Bishops was 62 to 45 for approval.

"I'm thrilled we're going forward, and I'm very hopeful," Rev. Michael Hopkins, president of Integrity, an Episcopalian group of homosexuals - told CNSnews.com after learning the results of the investigation.

Hopkins said the vote confirming Robinson as bishop sends a "great message" from the church that its doors are "open wide."

However, not all Episcopalians applauded the decision or agreed with Hopkins on the message being sent. Rev. David Anderson, president of the American Anglican Council (AAC), had previously told reporters that Robinson's confirmation would be a "fatal bullet" to the Anglican Communion, the church of Great Britain that includes the Episcopalian Church in America and has 77 million members worldwide.

"We are on the deck of the Titanic, saying to the captain, the presiding bishop, that there's an iceberg dead ahead. For God's sake, steer us away from it. Don't hit it," Anderson said.

According to a petition on the AAC's website, "to confirm a non-celibate homosexual as a bishop of this Communion or to approve the creation of liturgies for the blessing of relationships outside of marriage would shatter the church," a reference to the decision of some Episcopalian officials to bless civil unions.

According to the AAC petition, the decision to confirm Robinson would:

-- Separate the church from historic Christian faith and teaching;

-- Alienate it from the fellowship and accountability of the worldwide Anglican family; and

-- Confuse the witness of the church to the love and joy of Christian marriage.

According to press reports, the AAC is planning a meeting in October to decide whether to break away from the Episcopalian Church or take some other action. Like-minded Anglicans overseas were also reported as saying they would consider severing ties with the American Episcopalian branch.

The 1998 Lambeth Conference, a once-a-decade gathering of Anglican leaders, approved a resolution calling homosexuality "incompatible with Scripture."

Yet Hopkins and other supporters expressed some doubt about the convictions of those threatening a church split.

"I hope that it's more bluster than reality. We'll see what they decide to do," Hopkins said. "I think in the end, there's more that holds us together than drives us apart."

Hopkins conceded that the church had lost some members when it decided to ordain women as priests, but he noted that then, as now, there were predictions of "a real worldwide split" in the church, which never came to pass.

Susan Russell, director of communications for Integrity, recently told reporters that Robinson's elevation to the position of bishop would increase church membership, which according to press reports has fallen 5.3 percent in the last decade.

"The same threats of schism were all around, and in my experience as an ordained woman in this church, the ordination of women has only strengthened our ministry and enhanced our ability to proclaim the good news of God in Jesus Christ to those yearning to hear it," Russell told reporters. "I think the Episcopal Church is poised on what we call a kairos moment, offering to the world a vision of a progressive, inclusive gospel, which is another step forward."

Critics like LaBarbera disagree. The "saddest thing" about Robinson's ordination, he said, is that it confuses children.

"It tells them that wrong is right, that it doesn't matter if a man has a (sexual) relationship with a woman or a man. It's just tragic that they are choosing to elevate something that is a sin, and all the young people are going to see this. The liberals are teaching the kids that sin is okay, and it's very sad," LaBarbera said.

He stressed that this issue is far from over within the Episcopalian Church and the larger society.

"The funny thing is that these people think they can change immutable standards by a vote. You don't change moral law by some liberal political action. God will not be mocked," LaBarbera said.

See Earlier Story:
Child Porn Link Delays Vote on Homosexual Bishop
(Aug. 5, 2003)

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1 posted on 08/06/2003 2:26:00 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: goldstategop
Now, what about practitioners of bestiality? Then again, what about satanics? Can they apply? Hm.... what about S&M fiends? I think I found the perfect church for Hans Blix. I know! Ozzy, he could be the next bishop there. He could draw in a lot of kids, biting the heads off of bats. Kool man. That almost makes sense compared to this.
4 posted on 08/06/2003 2:37:26 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Bob Graham's new five letter word: impeachment)
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To: kattracks
Apparently, many Episcopalians haven't read the Bible.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them
5 posted on 08/06/2003 2:38:42 AM PDT by jaykay
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To: Joe Boucher
I wouldn't worry. The E-piss-scum-palians are toast. They will very quickly see what happens when the clergy ignores the Bible. And while the straights flee the church, the sodomites will replace them. That will only speed up the process.
6 posted on 08/06/2003 2:41:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Bob Graham's new five letter word: impeachment)
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To: jaykay
Also Romans 1. They are so nailed. Now they have to argue that they know more than Paul and Moses about what God thinks. Well, if I ever can't find a urinal, the wall of their church will do nicely.
7 posted on 08/06/2003 2:43:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Bob Graham's new five letter word: impeachment)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Episcopalians have suddenly, in a single day, replaced the Catholic church as the Armpit of Christianity.

Actually, Arthur ... your lame generalizations have you vying for the title "Armpit of Christianity"...
8 posted on 08/06/2003 2:44:45 AM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Long live The Father, The Pederast, And The Queerdom Forever and Ever.
9 posted on 08/06/2003 2:45:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kattracks
"Some Christian activists expressed disappointment Tuesday over the election of the Episcopalian Church's first openly homosexual bishop."

Disappointment? Are you kidding? Outrage is more appropriate. They have endorsed the perverse abomination their God warned them against. How can they reconcile their religion's teachings with this election?

10 posted on 08/06/2003 2:48:06 AM PDT by NetValue (They are not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: Bush2000
I stand by what I said. Show me an E-piss-scum-palian church, and I see a urinal. Stick a fork in it. It's dead. Officially. Next....
11 posted on 08/06/2003 2:48:25 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Bob Graham's new five letter word: impeachment)
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To: kattracks
It would be a worthwhile FREEP to conduct a funeral service or memorial service for the church oustide our local Episcopal Churches. Anyone up for fleshing this out more? (no pun intended)
12 posted on 08/06/2003 2:55:54 AM PDT by Huber (Ann Coulter's Treason is a corrective lens to clearly perceive the motivation of the left.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Sad but there's a new trinity apparently in Episcopedophalialand God, Jesus Christ, and Bruce.
13 posted on 08/06/2003 3:02:01 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Huber
Hey I believe in God and carry a Bible, but I also openly believe in sex before and outside of marriage, and oh ya, I think murder's ok (if you declare it openly). Can I become a leader of the Christian church? /s

what defines a Christian? hmmm

14 posted on 08/06/2003 3:02:36 AM PDT by bets
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Now they have to argue that they know more than Paul and Moses about what God thinks.

I've already heard their justifications. 2 bishops were on TV saying "Well Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality" and "People used to use the Bible to support slavery so it can be interpreted to mean anything". These were bishops. Sad. sad. Shame on them.

15 posted on 08/06/2003 3:05:58 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: goldstategop; Bush2000
My mom thought of an even better name for the church: the E-Piss-Scum-Fail-ians.

I know I'm being heartless to the members of that dead church. But better they read it on the internet than to find that kind of reaction on the streets. If I were a member of that church, I'd leave it and shake the dust of my feet.

They need tough love right now. They need to realize what they've become a part of. It's over. Gone. It's like catching your wife on dope in an orgy-- and no condom. She's damaged goods, bud. Don't sleep with her again. Kick her out. She doesn't deserve you. And if you stay with her, my goodness, how can I respect you?

You don't need a building to belong to a Christian church. The temple is your flesh. And, the Bible is a better minister than any mortal being. What you take into your fleshly temple you become one with. The E-Piss-Scum-failians have taken SODOMY into their fleshly temple. They willingly, knowingly defiled themselves. Walk into that building to be one of them, and you do the same to yourself. What I'm saying is, to remain in that church is to be one with sodomy, to sin.
16 posted on 08/06/2003 3:06:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Bob Graham's new five letter word: impeachment)
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To: Huber
A funeral service? Good idea. I keep thinking of Lott's wife who looked back at Sodom and Gamorrah. This seems so similar somehow. FReegards....
17 posted on 08/06/2003 3:12:44 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Bob Graham's new five letter word: impeachment)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Shame only begins to explain what they have done. A brothel is more spiritually clean.
18 posted on 08/06/2003 3:13:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Bob Graham's new five letter word: impeachment)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Christ took whips and drove out the money changers as defilers of the church. Remember that? Well wgat do you think hed do to this bone smuggler?
19 posted on 08/06/2003 3:19:37 AM PDT by Evil Inc
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
A brothel is more spiritually clean.

Sad but true. At least brothels do not profess to be something they are not. For the EC to profess moral or spiritual leadership reeks of satanic mischief.

20 posted on 08/06/2003 3:23:32 AM PDT by Huber (Ann Coulter's Treason is a corrective lens to clearly perceive the motivation of the left.)
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