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To: Woahhs
I understand what you are saying and I'm not saying you are wrong. Young women have been taught that they don't need men to survive. They're strong and independent. But I wonder what their fathers and grandfathers were like. It goes back generations when men don't take the headship of the home seriously. I know that not all families are like that but many, many are, where the woman is more or less made to take the responsibility of leading the family, in church matters or other ways. Men need to realize that God has given them the headship of their families. It probably would be difficult if you aren't Christian to make that happen, however. In many so-called Christian churches, it will never happen because men are made to feel like they're second class citizens for even thinking of being the head of the family. That's why I attend the church I do. Men are encouraged to be the heads and the women are encouraged to let them. We're so much happier when we do it God's way and not our own. We're not so far apart on this, my FRiend.
226 posted on 08/07/2003 8:48:08 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Marysecretary
But I wonder what their fathers and grandfathers were like.

You can't do anything about what their fathers and grandfathers were like. You can do something about what "young women" think by strenuously opposing the "heads I win, tails you lose" character of feminine discourse.

It goes back generations when men don't take the headship of the home seriously.

How does one prove this assertion? If it were wrong, what evidence would you accept as conclusive?

I know that not all families are like that but many, many are, where the woman is more or less made to take the responsibility of leading the family, in church matters or other ways.

When was the last time you heard of a man being criticized as a control freak? In general, most men prefer much more autonomy than most women. Insisting women exercise that autonomy when she doesn't want to is not a failure of leadership; it's a exercise of prerogative.

I know that not all families are like that but many, many are, where the woman is more or less made to take the responsibility of leading the family, in church matters or other ways.

Thank you for the kind reply, but I think we are much farther than you think. I've read Proverbs 31 many times, and I've yet to see anything about the husband's leadership having anything to do with the wife's character. My personal observation is women "take responsibility" because they don't approve of the organizational structure men prefer. The "if you don't like the way I do it, you do it" mentality is closer to reality than any claim men are abdicating their role as head of the household.

228 posted on 08/07/2003 9:36:26 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: Marysecretary
Oops. That repeat quote should have been:

We're not so far apart on this, my FRiend.

Thanks again.

229 posted on 08/07/2003 9:40:34 AM PDT by Woahhs
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