The Pink Triangle Wedge? (gay marriage to split black votes from dems)

Fraters Liberatas ^ | 7/5/2003 | The Elder

[visagoth]

Tuesday, August 05, 2003

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The Pink Triangle Wedge?

In the 2000 election only 10% of African-American voters pulled the lever (or punched the chad) for Bush. Obviously these are dismal numbers which the Bush team would certainly love to improve upon come 2004.

The recent brouhaha over gay marriage may be the issue they use to try to chip away at what has become a Democratic stranglehold on the black vote. A Gallup Poll conducted on July 25-27 shows that support for legalized homosexual relations among blacks has dropped to 35%. While most African-Americans have embraced the broad positions of the Democratic party, when it comes to social issues they are often more conservative. In particular they aren't too crazy about being allied with the very outspoken gay rights movement and its leaders.

Will this one issue be enough to get large numbers of black voters to cross over and vote for Bush in 2004? Probably not. But even if only a small percentage do it will weaken the base of core support for the eventual Democratic candidate, and whoever that turns out to be will very likely be unable to afford any slippage if he hopes to have a chance to upset Bush.

Look for the Republicans to try to get as much play out of gay marriage for as long as they can.

[.cnI redruM]

Goth - Cool Name.

This may very well be true. I can't think of any group in society other than the KKK that likes homosexuals less than the average African American Male.

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[JohnGalt]

Whatever the merits to your claim, the so-called 'black vote' is fixed and its nonsense to pretend otherwise. So long as urban welfare districts continue to vote 102% for the Ds with no Republican reaction, there is no point in speaking seriously about a shift in voting patterns.

[.cnI redruM]

You may or may not have a point. Historical evidence argues in your favor, but like the stock brokers are legally required to state, 'past performance is no guaruntee of future returns.'

Also, white voters judge candidates, particularly Republican candidates, on how they 'relate' to African Americans. So there is a negative indirect effect against Republican candidates if they write off the black vote.

[Dave S]

Whatever the merits to your claim, the so-called 'black vote' is fixed and its nonsense to pretend otherwise. So long as urban welfare districts continue to vote 102% for the Ds with no Republican reaction, there is no point in speaking seriously about a shift in voting patterns.

You dont have to affect the percentage voting for the DEms, all you have to do is suppress their turnout. If the blacks are upset with the Dems or pissed about same sex marriages, etc and they stay home, that benefits us. The Dems will have a harder time demonizing Bush than they did in the 2000 election due to his wartime leadership, his trip to Africa, and AIDS package to Africa. As a result, any bad weather or lack of excitement (say for a preppy Vermont Governor) may result in large numbers of them staying home and not voting. Turnout is what caused the Dems to lose big in 2002. Dems need every black vote they can get to have a chance. If blacks dont vote, its almost the same as a vote for Bush.

[JohnGalt]

"Staying at home" makes the precinct fixers' job easier since they can fill out the ballot for them.

That battle is lost after voter registration.

[Semper Paratus]

I hope Bush follows up his comments last week and give the dems a real 'wedgie' trying to finesse the issue.

[kdf1]

Do we need to honor the miserable thievery of the homosexuals of the word "gay". It was a decent girls name. Literature used it gaily. The homosexual crowd seems to like the word queer.

[Tokhtamish]

During the 80's Reagan Republicans tried to use social issues to create a "black leaders vs black people" wedge in the black community.

It failed miserably. Distrust of Republican motives runs very, very deep and will continue to do so until the generation of blacks who remember that conservatives did not support the civil rights movement dies off. It's not as if black and white Southern churches were ever "brothers in Christ".

Look at abortion, for instance. This is an issue where black divisions mirror white divisions but is one where the black community has flatly refused to be divided.

Over the past four years, blacks have seen the economic gains of the 90's completely wiped out. That will decide their vote.

[JohnGalt]

Again, no serious talk of voter shifts can be made when the so-called "black vote" is rigged. Republicans in the 1980s foolishly backed the hero-worship of MLK and support of the civil rights bill of 1964 which alienated white voters and did nothing to stem the ghetto system urban blacks found themselves reduced too.

But so long as the precinct captains deliver 102% turnout, there can be no serious discussion of measured change in black voting patterns.

[irish guard]

Pink Triangle Wedge?.....I know this is a homosexual post....but for me...a devout heterosexual with his mind in the gutter, that name conjures up an entirely different visual.

[George W. Bush]

Won't work. The blacks won't split from the Dims over this. Too bad.

[Tokhtamish]

You think the urban black vote is "fixed" ? You think there is some silent majority of black Republicans on Martin Luther King Blvd ?

[FreedomPoster]

>>That battle is lost after voter registration.

I see you have an opinion on election integrity that is similar to mine.

I really dislike the new touch-screen voting terminals. They make it totally impossible to do a recount.

[JohnGalt]

Yes.

No.

I think most would stay home like Bubba living in Appalachia, enjoying life and taking it easy.

In that sense, I contend there is no serious discussion possible on voter shifts that has any meaning when it comes to the black vote.

[Mike Darancette]

This may very well be true. I can't think of any group in society other than the KKK that likes homosexuals less than the average African American Male.

Not only do African-American Females lose their men to white women the DNC wants African-American men available for white men too.

[=Intervention=]

Why did you even bother to post, I wonder? It's always hopeless in Galt's world...

[expatpat]

Perhaps Hispanics like 'maricones' less than blacks do.

[JohnGalt]

Did you take the red pill or the blue pill this morning?