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FReep This Poll
CNN ^ | None

Posted on 08/06/2003 5:29:32 PM PDT by wattsup

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

FReep this Poll. They are trying to prove the President wrong.


(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage

1 posted on 08/06/2003 5:29:33 PM PDT by wattsup
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To: wattsup
Here is the site http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/30/bush.gay.marriage/index.html
2 posted on 08/06/2003 5:30:46 PM PDT by wattsup
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To: MercCPC
What's your statement to Log Cabin Republicans on this issue?

What is their position on the issue? Not all homosexuals approve of this.

4 posted on 08/06/2003 5:48:48 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: wattsup
Too late. The Gaybots are already running.
5 posted on 08/06/2003 5:52:28 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Better a Bushbot than a Bubbabot!)
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To: MercCPC
Equal rights? A male marrying a male is a right? Does a male have the right to have a baby? Does a male produce an egg? Look around in the rest of the animal species. Do males pair with males? What about insects? What about plants? The desire to make homosexuality "natural" is a doomed effort. It simply is not. It is a perversion of the natural.

Males have a right to enter into contracts to obligate each other to certain actions and behaviors and to deal with property rights but a legal marriage is a contract between a man and a woman and should remain that way.

Afraid of the issue? No one is afraid of the issue except those who wish to avoid controversy and the shrill condemnation of the left. I have never heard the Log Cabin Republicans screeching about the issue. Homosexuality, race, and feminism are causes the left jumps on with both feet and makes a big deal out of nothing over. Look at what happened to Trent Lott. m Look a what they tried to do to Rick Santorum.

It has nothing to do with family values? It is all about traditional family values. It is the core of traditional family values and the family is the core of our society. That is why the left wants to destroy it by perverting its nature, therefore minimizing its importance.

Social stability? Tell the truth, how many stable homosexual relationships have you ever seen? Do you think allowing marriage would change that? A relationship based on a perversion cannot be stable by nature. It is definitely not a win-win situation for anyone.
7 posted on 08/09/2003 9:18:42 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: MercCPC
A "legal marriage" is a dichotomy in that it's a mixture of religious and legal components that are constitutionally supposed to be separate.

You are making the common mistake, propagated and encouraged by the left, of thinking the Constitution prohibits any mention of religion in a government environment. The Constitution prohibits the establishment of a State Church, a government mandated religion, but immediately afterward its says "nor prevent the free exercise thereof". The founders were religious, generally, and the basis of our Constitution is that our rights are God-given, not man-given. To embrace the modern fad of saying anything religious is illegal is foolishness. This country was founded on religious beliefs and became great because of them. To deny that is to lie and that is exactly what the left is doing.

The church is the friend of a free society but it is the enemy of an oppressive society, like Communism, and they refuse to compete with God for power so they outlaw it. That is what is underway now, the attempt to outlaw religion.

As I said earlier, Gays, like anyone else, are free to enter into any kind of legal agreement among themselves as they wish. The same with heterosexual couples.

I don't think that equal rights for gays IS a "left" issue. I think equal rights is an "American" issue. Liberals just seem to be more comfortable dealing with it.

Gays already have equal rights, just as do women, blacks, Hispanics, etc. All are equal before the law. Gays, like many of the others, want preferences, not rights. The whole effort of all these groups has been a left backed campaign to cause division within our society so as to easier destroy its values, the values that made this the greatest country in the world. The effort here is to, as I said before, destroy the core of our society, the traditional nuclear family. The left is more comfortable with it because that is their goal.

I fail to see how another's homosexuality undermines my family's stability. I'm not gay, but I AM divorced. My son has a "non-traditional" family situation. Does that threaten YOUR family's stability?

When the values of a society are changed each member of that society is effected. Many today, even liberals, are seeing the results of the governments efforts to help the poor have, in fact, created a worse problem by destroying the nuclear families of the poor, mostly blacks in this particular case. Drug use, the crime rate, and teenage pregnancies have increased to epidemic proportions. These children, when in school, also prevent the other children from learning. It is a bad situation and it results from the destruction of the traditional family makeup.

I HAVE seen stable, long-term homosexual relationships. I DO think that providing a means for gays to form legal bonds would add to the stability of many gay relationships. Tell the truth, if there was no legal recognition of a bond between a man and a woman (marriage), would you expect to see more or less stable man/woman relationships? The same applies to gay couples.

I have known quite a few gays, men and women, and have been friends with some of them. Those relationships were more lust and of short term duration than any example of true love. I admit there are exceptions to everything but they are only exceptions.

As I have already said, there are legal bonds available to homosexual couples, it is just not marriage.

It's only my opinion, but calling homosexuality a "perversion" in this day and age equates to calling blacks "animals" two centuries ago. Both statements indicate an unhealthy and unproductive level of intolerance.

So you don't think homosexuality is a perversion? Just look at the plumbing and the intended use for it. To use it otherwise is to use it for something it was not intended, or a perversion. Look at homosexual relationships. Each partner assumes a role, either the dominant one or the submissive one. In other words one of the partners pretends he is something other than what his sex would dictate. Is that natural? I have no problem tolerating it, I just don't intend to elevate it.

Your statement smacks of elitist snobbery.

9 posted on 08/12/2003 8:34:06 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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