Never rely on the secular media to report the facts coming from the Vatican correctly.
1 posted on
08/07/2003 9:54:11 AM PDT by
polemikos
To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Aloysius; AniGrrl; Antoninus; As you well know...; BBarcaro; ...
Pinging the traditionalists.
2 posted on
08/07/2003 10:00:30 AM PDT by
Pyro7480
(+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
To: polemikos
Why did the network fail to distinguish between the ecclesiastical crime of solicitation and the public offense of pedophilia? The questions are worth pondering. A better question would be why should priests be doing either of these acts. A priest doing either should be hung on a meat hook in the public square.
3 posted on
08/07/2003 10:02:48 AM PDT by
Dave S
To: polemikos
4 posted on
08/07/2003 10:12:52 AM PDT by
steplock
(www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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Pinging the people from the original CBSNews thread.
5 posted on
08/07/2003 10:21:39 AM PDT by
Pyro7480
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To: polemikos
Thanks for posting this but for the room temperature IQ set that hates the church it won't matter.
7 posted on
08/07/2003 10:35:46 AM PDT by
Varda
To: polemikos
SeeBS LIED? Nooooooo!
8 posted on
08/07/2003 10:37:26 AM PDT by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: polemikos
Well this is good to know.
To: polemikos
SD was correct in his initial assessment.
What a pantload CBS published. When I read this tripe, I understand that objective journalism for many news organizations is in fact, a thing of the past
13 posted on
08/07/2003 10:52:33 AM PDT by
Fury
To: polemikos
Like I said in the last thread.....
"What a great way to take attention off the Vatican's stance against Homosexuals that came out (npi) last week."
To: polemikos
I agree that CBS misrepresented the situation to some extent; however, unless someone can point me to where it says that when a crime against a minor has been committed it must be turned over to civil authorities, the document could rightly be construed as protecting criminals.
The reason the document surfaced in the first place is that it is being used in one of the Boston sex abuse of minors cases by catholic lawyers against the church and may well hold up in court if those victims were solicited in the confessional and the perpetrator(s) were not reported to civil authorities, which evidently they were not.
I do agree otherwise with other posters who correctly point out that the seal of confession must be upheld and thus the reason for secret proceedings.
This is coming down to a p****** contest between our legal system and church law. In the case of criminal offenses, I hope our legal system wins out.
29 posted on
08/07/2003 11:33:55 AM PDT by
Aliska
To: polemikos
What a surprise, the mainstream media twisting a story to bash the church. Hopefully Drudge will change his headline.
37 posted on
08/07/2003 12:34:38 PM PDT by
SB00
To: polemikos
Not to mention that a Priest is Excommunicate reserved to the Pope for the crime of solicitation. That being the case, even if they "honestly" mistook the document, they must have also "overlooked" the penalty of excommunication for the priest involved.
To: *Catholic_list
CBS Smearjob Discredited, read how here.
Thanks, polemikos
62 posted on
08/07/2003 3:12:30 PM PDT by
Petronski
(I'm not always cranky.)
To: Polycarp
Can you use any of your clout to get CBS to retract this, or at least make it clear what the document was about?
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Ring
87 posted on
08/08/2003 8:00:00 AM PDT by
Barnacle
(A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
To: polemikos
The "report" reeked, even when read on the CBS website. But who in their right mind gets "news" from CBS in the first place?
91 posted on
08/08/2003 8:28:35 AM PDT by
ninenot
(Torquemada: Due for Revival Soon!!!)
To: polemikos
Cardinal Ottaviani stresses that any confessor who solicits sexual favors from his penitents should be suspended from ministry and stripped of all priestly privileges. ... The CBS report claimed:
The confidential Vatican document, obtained by CBS News, lays out a church policy that calls for absolute secrecy when it comes to sexual abuse by priests-- anyone who speaks out could be thrown out of the church.
That is inaccurate.
That is a charitable understatement.
But the smear is out there. Mission accomplished.
92 posted on
08/08/2003 8:31:42 AM PDT by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: polemikos
Never rely on (CBS) to report the facts. More concise. Just as accurate.
95 posted on
08/08/2003 8:45:54 AM PDT by
Tribune7
To: polemikos; Pyro7480; NYer
Does anybody have a link or thread to the vatican document?
106 posted on
08/08/2003 6:25:03 PM PDT by
Coleus
(God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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