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Posted on 08/08/2003 8:49:10 AM PDT by chance33_98

Parents liable for kids' P2P downloads

By Robert Jaques [08-08-2003]

RIAA subpoenas bring file-swapping issue to a 'brisk boil', warn lawyers

US parents could face full liability if their children are discovered to have illegally downloaded copyrighted MP3 files and stored them on home computers, legal experts have warned. Parents will be held responsible for any consequences arising from their children's downloading of copyrighted music if they know about it and permit it, or if they have the opportunity to prevent it and fail to do so, according to lawyers at US law firm Bricker & Eckler.

The lawyers explained that the Recording Industry Association of America's move to identify individuals who have allegedly download and shared copyrighted music by issuing subpoenas to ISPs, means that the issue of responsibility and liability has gone from "a slow simmer to a brisk boil".

Although the law firm said that US law does not require parents constantly to monitor their children's internet activity, it warned: "The deciding liability factor will be whether a child's behaviour was sufficient to alert a reasonable parent that he or she was downloading music files illegally.

"Parents who are aware of MP3 files on their computers should find out if their children paid to download those files."

In addition to civil liability, Bricker & Eckler indicated that file-sharers may now face criminal misdemeanour or felony convictions under the federal No Electronic Theft Act.

The legislation punishes individuals who wilfully copy, distribute and traffic in copyrighted works on the internet.

The reproduction or distribution of 10 or more copies of copyrighted works with a total retail value of at least $2,500 constitutes a felony, with a maximum jail sentence of three years and a fine of $250,000.

The reproduction or distribution of one or more copyrighted works with a total retail value of more than $1,000 constitutes a misdemeanour, with a maximum custodial sentence of one year and a fine of up to $100,000.

"Given the popularity of file-swapping among teenagers, parents must speak with their children about downloading music before they are forced to pay the Pied Piper," warned the Bricker & Eckler lawyers.


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1 posted on 08/08/2003 8:49:10 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
There is an interesting defense already successfully used in the UK (for porn, but that's beside the point.) Blame it on a trojan horse proxy virus that someone infected your computer with.
2 posted on 08/08/2003 9:02:26 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: chance33_98
This is one that people really need to fight. Are the music companies snooping into our children's hard drives like voyeuristic perverts? Isn't this a serious privacy violation? Are they also reading our children's diaries and leering at any photos of themselves they may have on their hard drives? Where is the ACLU on this one?

Are parents really responsible for the actions of their children, and if so, I think parents should find lawyers who will bring public school teachers into this barf bag law suit because kids spend one-third of their waking hours at school under the supervision, state-sponsored instruction and control of their teachers.

3 posted on 08/08/2003 9:04:33 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: chance33_98
Although the law firm said that US law does not require parents constantly to monitor their children's internet activity, it warned: "The deciding liability factor will be whether a child's behaviour was sufficient to alert a reasonable parent that he or she was downloading music files illegally.

Jury Trial Demanded.

Now, who did what to the Columbine Kid's parents, despite a shotgun barrel on the dresser?

4 posted on 08/08/2003 9:04:43 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: chance33_98
Parents will be held responsible for ... their children's downloading of copyrighted music if they know about it ... according to lawyers ...who work for the RIAA.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!

5 posted on 08/08/2003 10:40:37 AM PDT by balrog666 (Religions change; beer and wine remain.)
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To: chance33_98
Boy, these bullying tactics by the RIAA and their attorneys sure make me want to go out and buy an overpriced CD today.

I guarantee you that if I'm ever on a jury hearing such a case, the defendant will win.

6 posted on 08/08/2003 10:47:15 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
"...these bullying tactics by the RIAA and their attorneys..."

If the numbers I've seen regarding how many people have done this, I'm really wondering how far they are going to be able to push this. Are the American people really going to stand for middle class youths and their parents being turned into a criminal class? Probably, because there seems to have been no problem doing this with smokers.

It seems to me that the way to go on this would be a boycott. Maybe all these young folks with the disposable income to keep these record companies in business should take a cd buying holiday. Like maybe this Christmas shopping season. Just get DVD's instead. It seems to have worked wonders with the French, they get it that we hate them now. This is a lesson the RIAA needs to learn in spades. I've often thought a one day wild-cat smokers' strike would send a message too.
7 posted on 08/08/2003 10:56:07 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Nightshift
ping
8 posted on 08/08/2003 5:37:01 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: chance33_98
HAHAHAHAHA!! Good luck enforcing this one.
9 posted on 08/09/2003 7:38:19 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: chance33_98
The legislation punishes individuals who wilfully copy, distribute and traffic in copyrighted works on the internet. The reproduction or distribution of 10 or more copies of copyrighted works with a total retail value of at least $2,500 constitutes a felony, with a maximum jail sentence of three years and a fine of $250,000.

This has all the makings of another drug war.

10 posted on 08/09/2003 7:41:43 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
new poster seen:

THE BIG 5 RECORD LABELS are not good for music. They built their cartel on a morass of exploitative record deals, pay for play radio, and album price fixing. They lock out any artist that rejects their terms and use their monopoly power to keep independent labels small and marginalized. Even musicians that succeed with major labels resent the unfair contracts they're forced to sign and the creative control they have to sacrifice. It's just as bad for fans: every year radio gets worse, CDs cost more, and now they're monitoring your home computer. It's way past time to end the major label death grip on radio, musicians, and everyone who likes music. Filesharing and CD burning make getting rid of the music industry possible, and they provide the foundation for a new system that directly connects musicians and their audience. Everybody wins when the middlemen are gone. If someone can download music and give a $2 donation to the band, that's 1/8 the price for them and twice as much for artists. The major label system has failed and it's time to build something better. We shouldn't be defensive about filesharing, and we can't be cautious about proposing new ideas. Music is screaming for us to do something. -DB

11 posted on 08/27/2003 3:25:35 PM PDT by alrea
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To: jocon307
The solution is simple, make the music/movie monguls, the media/press, hollywoods elites and the rest of the socialists in this country the new criminal class FIRST.
12 posted on 08/27/2003 3:37:01 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: jocon307
Since they do not consider us human, there is no reason we should consider them human.
13 posted on 08/27/2003 3:38:52 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: alrea; myself6
Another angle from myself6:
14 posted on 08/27/2003 8:18:09 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
We kill the music industry, and we wipe out a HUGE contributor to the socialist democrats in this country

You're probably on to something here. The next election will probably include a coalition of rappers, Democrats and pornographers uniting to get influence in Guvrmint.

15 posted on 08/30/2003 2:21:28 PM PDT by alrea
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