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How Clinton's Beijing deal endangered America
Brookes News (Australia) ^ | Monday 11 August 2003 | Peter Zhang

Posted on 08/10/2003 7:04:41 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

How Clinton's Beijing deal endangered America

Peter Zhang
BrookesNews.Com
Monday 11 August 2003

Seeing as so many democrats and their allies in the media have been screaming about intelligence failures and the President Bush's foreign policy, I think it's time to once again turn to the Clinton administration and its dangerous dealings with Beijing.

I completely confess to being fascinated by Clinton's Chinese spying scandal. It's like a form of mental super glue — I just don't seem to be able to let go. That he was able to get away with it is still a source of amazement to me, and others acquainted with his Chinese dealings.

So what did Beijing get from the Clintons? I think the answer is obvious. Clinton gave Beijing a free reign and a guarantee that its activities would not be interrupted during, what he quaintly calls, his "watch" so that China could clear out America's military and high-tech secrets. Simple.

Questions regarding Clinton, particularly on this matter, only lead to more questions. How could Beijing be certain that Clinton, even as president of the United States, could make good such a guarantee? One, I think, should start with his governorship of Arkansas. There seems little doubt that Clinton ran it as his personal fiefdom, replacing or shoving aside those who could prove troublesome.

Some would argue that this is the norm. That is probably true in American politics, but not to the corrupt and ruthless extent that Clinton practised it. His approach to power and people is truly Machiavellian. Given this fact, and his support in the media, it is not surprising that reports made out to Chinese intelligence suggested that Clinton would be favourably disposed to dealing with Chinese representatives — for a price.

Intelligence assessments were supported by Clinton's action, shortly after entering (or is it soiling?) the Oval Office, in asking all US Attorneys General to resign. This unprecedented and dictatorial move gave the Clinton administration control over the prosecutorial machinery of the federal government in every judicial district in the US. No need to tell you who was impressed by this breathtakingly brazen move.

Why Clinton even tried to appoint Webster Hubbel to the post of Attorney General. Imagine where that would have led. But what struck a particular chord was the way the American media acquiesced to the Clintons' manoeuvres. Beijing does not underrate the power of the Western media, especially in America. That the media, with the exception of a few lone voices, was prepared to collaborate with the Clintons gave further assurance to Beijing that Clinton was able to deliver.

But what of the CIA and the FBI, asked some readers? I have no wish to be patronising, but the naiveté of the American public is almost touching at times. It didn't even notice that William Sessions, FBI Director, a man noted for his integrity and opposition to political interference in the Bureau's affairs, was removed as quickly as Clinton moved into the Oval office.

There is no doubt that Clinton deliberately acted to chain the CIA and the National Security Agency as well as the FBI. One method was to have Clinton supporters in sensitive positions so that they could delay, if not derail, any budding investigations into Clinton's China operations. Many of these supporters are still in place and owe their loyalty to the Clinton political machine.

With these bodies virtually rendered ineffective by the Democrats Chinese intelligence had a field day. Now being ineffective does not mean uninformed. These agencies new very well what Chinese intelligence was up to but were largely powerless to do anything about it. After all, what could they do when the commander in chief, the president himself, had, by his actions, made it clear that investigations into China's spying activities would not be welcomed.

One of the reasons that Janet Reno was appointed to head the Justice Department was that the Clintons believed she could be relied on to sabotage any investigations into Chinese intelligence operations.

I should point out at this stage that several Chinese officials let it drop that they believed Clinton was blackmailing Reno over certain activities concerning her personal life. Whatever the truth of the matter, Reno's role as the last of Clinton's gatekeepers, so to speak, more than satisfied Beijing's expectations by thoroughly corrupting the Justice Department and blocking FBI requests.

No wonder Beijing was so satisfied with its part of the deal that if felt sufficiently in command to 'request' that Clinton see to it that John Huang be given top security clearance and placed in a favourable position, favourable to Chinese intelligence, that is.

Thus we find Huang being given a position in the Commerce Department, at the insistence of Clinton, where he was able to use his security clearance to directly obtain information from the CIA.

I was told that CIA officials were in no doubt about Huang's activities but were held in check by Clinton, despite CIA complaints. Does any reader honestly believe that Clinton is so innocent that he had no idea why Beijing wanted a security clearance for Huang?

So did Beijing really think it was going to get away with spying activities? Of course it did. And it has. Chinese intelligence expected eventual exposure but calculated that by the time it occurred the damage would be done. It was right. Clinton, not China, emptied the Candy store with devastating results for American security. The consequences will be felt for many years to come.

It's time Americans woke up to what the Clintons and the majority of congressional Democrats did to American security


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beijing; china; clinton; clintonlegacy; clintonspying; scandal; treason
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I only have a few minutes a day to FReep lately. Spend it mostly lurking. But this is worth taking a few minutes to post.
1 posted on 08/10/2003 7:04:41 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
Thanks much for posting. It is disgusting when foreign newspapers care more about the truth when it comes to the Clintons then the American press. Speaks volumes about our DemocRAT Liberal press and they should be ashamed of putting the Clintons ahead of Truth and this Country!

Thanks again for posting this article!

2 posted on 08/10/2003 7:08:14 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Lando Lincoln
*BUMP* !
3 posted on 08/10/2003 7:10:00 PM PDT by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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To: onyx; OldFriend; Howlin; Miss Marple; Ragtime Cowgirl; deport; JohnHuang2; MeeknMing; Wolfstar; ...
This needs widespread distribution!
4 posted on 08/10/2003 7:11:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Intelligence assessments were supported by Clinton's action, shortly after entering (or is it soiling?) the Oval Office, in asking all US Attorneys General to resign. This unprecedented and dictatorial move gave the Clinton administration control over the prosecutorial machinery of the federal government in every judicial district in the US. No need to tell you who was impressed by this breathtakingly brazen move.

BINGO!! .. This guy nailed it

5 posted on 08/10/2003 7:12:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Lando Lincoln
Madelyn Albright made it clear that she felt it would be a dangerous world if America was the only superpower.

This is the same excuse the traitors and spies used when they gave our atomic secrets to Russia.

That mentality prevails today within the leftist elites who presume to know what is best for us.

6 posted on 08/10/2003 7:13:58 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: PhiKapMom
This needs widespread distribution!

Yep .. this one going out in email

7 posted on 08/10/2003 7:14:15 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: OldFriend
Madelyn Albright made it clear that she felt it would be a dangerous world if America was the only superpower.

Isn't Dean basically saying the same thing?

8 posted on 08/10/2003 7:15:15 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Mo1
If this writer uncovered all of this, can you imagine what reporters here in this Country are missing on purpose?
9 posted on 08/10/2003 7:15:32 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: PhiKapMom; DPB101
I'd call this a bombshell, yes?
10 posted on 08/10/2003 7:18:18 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Mo1
Have paid no attention to Dean at all. Is he of the same philosophy, that America is dangerous to the world as the only super power?
11 posted on 08/10/2003 7:20:44 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: PhiKapMom
This info had been out there .. the media choose to ingnore it and pretend it was the big bad VRWC making up stories

IMO .. the media is just as guilty as Clinton

12 posted on 08/10/2003 7:23:00 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: OldFriend
Basically .. yep

He thinks we should or will have a 2nd rate miltary and that we shouldn't be going around the world and bullying people

Those aren't his exact words .. but pretty close
13 posted on 08/10/2003 7:27:11 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: PhiKapMom
This has been common knowledge....but...who cares! It's too late to do anything about it. What we have to worry about is...the next Klintoon! If she get into the WH, look for Chinagate part 2.
14 posted on 08/10/2003 7:32:14 PM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: Lando Lincoln
Big bump!!!
15 posted on 08/10/2003 7:33:44 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (No longshoremen were injured to produce this tagline.)
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To: OldFriend
"Madelyn Albright made it clear that she felt it would be a dangerous world if America was the only superpower.

"This is the same excuse the traitors and spies used when they gave our atomic secrets to Russia.

"That mentality prevails today within the leftist elites who presume to know what is best for us."

All true. But Clinton's actions had nothing to do with liberal elitist philosophy. His motivation was a.) money and b.) power. He sold out his country for his own benefit, not somebody else's abstract philosophy.

Next to Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon was a piker.

16 posted on 08/10/2003 7:33:48 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Brookes News Australia

Every once and awhile a report, or article, like this surfaces. Unfortunetly the source is obscure ... even if something like this were reported in the NY Times (at this point) ... although true, would have little impact. The Clinton's made a mockery of U.S. security during the 90's ... they were bought and paid for by the Chicoms.

17 posted on 08/10/2003 7:35:14 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Lando Lincoln
"It's time Americans woke up to what the Clintons and the majority of congressional Democrats did to American security."

We bitched about this when it was happening, but it fell on deaf ears. The liberals would retort "Well, you're just bashing the president because you don't like him."

What really harps me is that our president won't do any housecleaning of those moles still left in the agencies by X42.

18 posted on 08/10/2003 7:35:34 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Lando Lincoln
Excellent post. You need to take a few more minutes for FR and post more!

This article goes along with what I've thought for years. Too bad I'm a dope, and can't collect my thoughts well enough to write stuff like this.

Thanks for the post.

FMCDH

19 posted on 08/10/2003 7:40:02 PM PDT by nothingnew (I've changed my tagline and will tell no one what it is until I'm on the Jay Leno show!)
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To: nightdriver
What really harps me is that our president won't do any housecleaning of those moles still left in the agencies by X42.

He can't .. before Clinton left office many of them became civil empployees and they can't be fired

20 posted on 08/10/2003 7:40:39 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: nightdriver
What really harps me is that our president won't do any housecleaning of those moles still left in the agencies by X42.

BUMP to that!...WTF?

These bastidges should be gone, and I would start with the state dept.

FMCDH

21 posted on 08/10/2003 7:43:08 PM PDT by nothingnew (I've changed my tagline and will tell no one what it is until I'm on the Jay Leno show!)
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To: Mo1
I agree the media is just as guilty as Clinton! The Liberal DemocRAT media has no integrity just like their people they worship -- the Clintons!
22 posted on 08/10/2003 7:43:14 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (VOTE FOR ARNOLD -- GOP's Best Chance to Tank Hillary for 2004 and beyond!)
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To: nothingnew
See post #20 .. he can't fire them
23 posted on 08/10/2003 7:44:33 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: onyx
Negative! This is old hat, amply documented in many sources, as well as, here at FreeRepublic. The outrage that was missing then, is still missing now. Heaven, only, knows what kind of trouble we're in-for!
24 posted on 08/10/2003 7:45:10 PM PDT by old school
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To: Lando Lincoln
Yeah, old news that makes many of us very angry. I remember a news story from 1994 or so, discussing "attempts" by Chinese agents to interfere with our political process. That story didn't have any legs.

It got so bad that they thought they could do almost anything and get away with it. Of course, right about then we accidently put a guided bomb into their embassy, right smack into the room where some jouralists, or some such types were.

Gosh, I would really like to know the back story there.
25 posted on 08/10/2003 7:47:35 PM PDT by debaryfl
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To: Mo1
"He can't .. before Clinton left office many of them became civil empployees and they can't be fired"

There are ways.

They don't have to be in the areas where they still retain their security clearances.

26 posted on 08/10/2003 7:49:43 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Lando Lincoln
Subpoena #5 ClintonTreason, Murder Kept Secret) Bush uses privilege power to bar Hill from probes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/591397/posts
27 posted on 08/10/2003 7:51:12 PM PDT by comnet
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To: Lando Lincoln
This is crazy.

Everybody knows it was "all about sex"!

28 posted on 08/10/2003 7:54:47 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Mo1
See post #20 .. he can't fire them

Oh.......Can he shoot them?

FMCDH

29 posted on 08/10/2003 7:55:35 PM PDT by nothingnew (I've changed my tagline and will tell no one what it is until I'm on the Jay Leno show!)
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To: Lando Lincoln
bump!
30 posted on 08/10/2003 7:56:10 PM PDT by The Mayor (Psalms 118:8 (NKJV) -- "It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.")
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To: nothingnew
LOL .. well he could, but I'm thinking he might get in a bit of trouble for that
31 posted on 08/10/2003 7:58:30 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Lando Lincoln
And once again we're reminded of how corrupt and dangerous that criminal gang was.
32 posted on 08/10/2003 8:12:54 PM PDT by Brasil
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To: Lando Lincoln
What was the story behind Sessions dismissal? I heard there was something big behind it.
33 posted on 08/10/2003 8:20:48 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: Lando Lincoln
.."IS it SAFE?"= HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629
34 posted on 08/10/2003 8:57:45 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Lando Lincoln
There was a good article here:

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/f-news/960888/posts

about how Bush is allowing Us smart bomb techology to be moved to China. I guess The owner or moderators of Free republic could not allow that because the thread has been pulled. Reason given is just "Pulled". I wish I had a link to the story off from FR now. I should have know better than to rely on such an article staying put on FR.

Anyways it is a really bad thing for us to give China any peice of US tech. They already have our jobs and within a decade we will be subservant to them. It does not appear that Bush is doing much better. Every president since Reagan has been a globalist with dreams of a utopian world. Only God can create that. For Americans it will be hell on earth.
35 posted on 08/10/2003 9:15:55 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Lando Lincoln
Arnold,"I am ashamed of the Republican Party for impeaching President Clinton."
36 posted on 08/10/2003 9:39:58 PM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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To: Itis?itis
tangled webs, check it out.
37 posted on 08/10/2003 9:42:37 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Lando Lincoln
Bump
38 posted on 08/10/2003 9:44:42 PM PDT by sport
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To: Lando Lincoln
I completely confess to being fascinated by Clinton's Chinese spying scandal. It's like a form of mental super glue — I just don't seem to be able to let go. That he was able to get away with it is still a source of amazement to me, and others acquainted with his Chinese dealings.

Me, too.

Thus we find Huang being given a position in the Commerce Department, at the insistence of Clinton, where he was able to use his security clearance to directly obtain information from the CIA.

I was told that CIA officials were in no doubt about Huang's activities but were held in check by Clinton, despite CIA complaints.

The CIA! I was a housewife living in middle America (Wisconsin at the time, since moved to Arizona) who, when I read and watched the details emerge about the Riady/Huang relationship to clinton, saw clearly what there was to be seen. John Huang was put in Commerce by clinton, then moved to the DNC. He was obviously a spy who then garnered funds from the recipients of the information he passed on. And clinton knew it--clinton put him there for that purpose.

It was practically in neon letters yet the media pretended that nothing was proven.

I have every confidence that the truth will be drawn in stark clarity for Americans. How can it not? Despite the efforts of those enmeshed in the moment who are driven to spin and distort details and a media who supported clinton so wished to look the other way----the truth will come out.

39 posted on 08/10/2003 9:52:25 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Lando Lincoln
Back In the 90's I had a representative of the commerce dept. call me and asked whether it was OK to give my patents to a visiting Chicom trade group with no compensation in return. I could not believe it, my company operates as a IP House for profit, I developed it, patented it and was fully paid for and commerialized on my own. The unmigitgated gall of the call was not to be believed.

To me it was a pretty strong indicator that they were rifling the files and transfering anything and everything they could dig up and they called me after they had already gone through the Darpa and other agency programs.

US tax dollars paid for the R&D and the Idea that these bastards could hand it over for something so crass as a minor political advantage relative to the value of the technology and US security can only be called treason.
40 posted on 08/10/2003 10:00:20 PM PDT by underbyte (Arrogance will drop your IQ 50 points)
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To: Mo1
This info had been out there .. the media choose to ingnore it and pretend it was the big bad VRWC making up stories

Correct.

There is no other explanation for John Huang than that clinton knew he was a spy and would be collecting a fee for the information he would provide. A fee on clinton's behalf. That's why he was given the Commerce position and security clearance, then was moved to the DNC where he retained (though he wasn't supposed to) the security clearance. He then started "fund raising" in his most curious fashion.

It was as plain as day when this all came out way back when and I am glad to see the subject brought up again.

41 posted on 08/10/2003 10:01:59 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Revel
about how Bush is allowing Us smart bomb techology to be moved to China

That is BS .. that company was sold in 1995 under Clinton and it was Robert Rubin that allowed it to go through

42 posted on 08/10/2003 10:25:22 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Lando Lincoln
This might be interesting to you. Have a newspaper article dated April 8, 1999, reported in the New York Times entitled: SPY REPORTED CHINA'S THEFT OF SECRETS IN 1996--Nuclear weapons data stolen to build neutron bomb

WASHINGTON--In early 1996, the U.S. received a startling report from one of its Chinese spies. Officials inside China's intelligence service, the spy said, were boasting that they had just stolen secrets from the U.S. and had used them to improve Beijing's neutron bomb, according to American officials.

The spy had provided reliable information in the past, and officials said investigators took the report seriously.

China first built and tested a neutron warhead in the 1980s, using what American officials have said publicly, was secret data stolen from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, one of America's key nuclear weapons laboratories.

But the design did not work properly. American officials say that China's 1988 test of the neutron bomb, which kills people with enhanced radiation while leaving buildings intact, was not successful.

Now, the spy was suggesting, Chinese agents had solved the problem by coming back to the U.S. in 1995 to steal more secrets. The spy even provided details of how the information was transferred from the U.S. to China, officials said.

The report prompted a federal criminal investigation, but American officials say they have found no evidence that China has produced an improved neutron bomb.

Sandy Berger, the national security adviser, was first told of a possible new theft of neutron bomb data in 1996, according to officials who took part in the meeting or read the highly classified materials used to prepare for it.

The briefing, these officials said, came weeks after the FBI gave the Energy Department a report about the spy's information.

David Leavy, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said that Berger and another NSC official who attended the 1996 briefing do not believe the nuetron bomb issue was mentioned. Leavy said that Berger did not learn of the suspicions until a more detailed briefing in July 1997.

43 posted on 08/10/2003 10:30:39 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Lando Lincoln
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Excerpt (recommend clicking and reading all):

Although he did not start work until July14, 1994, President Clinton allowed Huang to receive a top-secret security clearance in January of 1994.10 "Such a clearance was explained in a January 1994 memo as necessary `due to the critical need for his expertise in the new administration' of Commerce Secretary Ronald H. Brown."11 He retained that clearance even after he left the Commerce Department to become a DNC fundraiser.12

From his very first day on staff, Huang lobbied aggressively for Riady’s "wish list." "He also received 37 `intelligence briefings' and may have attended 109 other meetings, including some at the White House, `at which classified material might have been discussed.' "13

Huang also remained in close contact with Lippo, using offices provided by his former boss’ friend, James T. Stephens. Records show that within minutes of leaving a White House meeting, Huang would call Lippo or one of its holdings. Aside from numerous telephone calls, Huang also faxed documents from Stephens’ offices.14 "Stephens officials said A. Vernon Weaver, now the U.S. representative to the European Union and formerly head of the Stephens office in Washington, allowed Huang to use the office for personal business as a courtesy."15

44 posted on 08/10/2003 10:32:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Lando Lincoln
To help flesh out the history here:

President Clinton's Asia Business Questioned!

45 posted on 08/10/2003 10:43:24 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: lilylangtree
"""Now, the spy was suggesting, Chinese agents had solved the problem by coming back to the U.S. in 1995 to steal more secrets. The spy even provided details of how the information was transferred from the U.S. to China, officials said."""


would not surprise me in the least. Talked to a guy at nasa/ames who was walking down the hall when he noticed a chinese guy at the copier, copying stacks of paper, no security badge, no escort. He went immediatly to security and got only a lukewarm response.

Makes you wonder, neutron bombs? Did not work? Oh well just go back and get the info you need.

Don't we have a locked door anywhere?
46 posted on 08/10/2003 10:46:20 PM PDT by underbyte (Arrogance will drop your IQ 50 points)
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To: underbyte
Have another article dated April 8, 1999, from Cox News Service showing how Clintoon advocated China's entry into the WTO. This is prior to China obtaining Most Favored Nation status that Clintoon advocated too. The article is entitled CHINA'S ENTRY TO TRADE GROUP IN OUR INTEREST, CLINTON SAYS--Partnership will build peace, critics told as premier arrives.

According to the article, "China's admission into the WTO, the international body created in 1995 to regulate international commerce, is 'profoundly in our national interest.' Clinton said in hastily arranged speech to the U.S. Institute for Peace."

"International Commerce" translates to stealing your nation's secrets.
47 posted on 08/10/2003 10:59:45 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: cyncooper; Lando Lincoln
Anyone remember about the woman found naked and beaten to death in her locked office at Commerce, International Division; the police wrote it up as "natural causes"... Supposedly the bruises were caused by cancer medication that caused her to feel overheated, which is why she disrobed herself before dying... her mother denied that she was on any such medication, but what would she know...

Thats how they solve a brutal beating in Clinton-era DC; she died of cancer overnight in her office. And the press dropped it.
48 posted on 08/11/2003 12:08:41 AM PDT by marron
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To: Mr. Peabody; Lando Lincoln
What was the story behind Sessions dismissal?

Sessions was dismissed the day before Vince Foster was found murdered.

49 posted on 08/11/2003 12:10:10 AM PDT by marron
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To: American Soldier; onedoug; Leisler; philetus; RLK; Quix; belmont_mark; SouthParkRepublican; ...
Ping!

If you want off my Communist China ping list, please FRemail me.
50 posted on 08/11/2003 1:04:07 AM PDT by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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