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Time For Howie To Fess Up – Is Dean An Abortionist?
PipeLineNews.org ^ | August, 11, 2003 | William A. Mayer, Publisher - PipeLineNews

Posted on 08/12/2003 11:08:06 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic

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To: johnqueuepublic
Pat Buchanan's and Taki's mag. Scott McConnell is generally thought of as a moderate in conservative circles, while at the same time, out in front on the immigration issue.

I think about every other issue there is an article written from an Old Right libertarian.


Lets grant your point. I stand by my position that attempting to paint Dean as a radical leftwinger in light of the preformance of the current President (even if you see him as conservative and I see him as an LBJ spender) I believe you will aid in his campaign which I see as him modeling after Clinton (recall the Sistah Soldier moment, the coddling dictators moment, and the middle class tax cut.)
61 posted on 08/12/2003 2:16:17 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: johnqueuepublic
Dean is a uniquely dangerous demogauge. Even at his worst, CLinton wouldn't let things get too bad because he knew that that would make his legacy and future plans less achievable. I'm not sure Dean understands that. He seems to have a radical, almost messianic view of his role.
62 posted on 08/12/2003 2:19:49 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Repent, For The End is Righteously ------- Nigh!" - 28 Days Later)
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To: JohnGalt
On many issues GW is 100% conservative imho, on spending he is not, I have, however done a bit of research and (despite the fact that I think GW is spending too much, the prescription drug thingie is an abomination) have found that as a % of GDP spending in the Bush presidency is down, marginally over the Clinton years, the diff is like .5% which is a small number but represents a ton of greenbacks.

I dont get the sistah soldier comment, Dean hasnt done anything like that.

PB and Taki are libertarians, both are against pre emptive engagement of the Islamic terrorists, I respect PB to a certain extent, Taki is a nutball.

When you compare GW with LBJ you have to keep things in perspective LBJs Great Society cost us about 6 Trillion bucks, GW has a ways to go on that one.
63 posted on 08/12/2003 2:31:47 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: .cnI redruM
I totally agree, there is something really creepy about him, cant put my finger on it exactly.
64 posted on 08/12/2003 2:32:59 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: onyx

65 posted on 08/12/2003 2:58:26 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: MeeknMing
ha ha, checked out the chickencrats, they are getting fined 1kilobuck a day.
66 posted on 08/12/2003 3:33:13 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: JohnGalt
I cannot believe the people falling for this "Dean is pro-gun" nonsense! STOP IT! Howard Dean is not pro-gun and he has said so. Dean said that he favors gun control at the national level. He is every bit as much the gun grabber as any other Democrat. He couldn't push the issue in Vermont because the PEOPLE OF VERMONT are overwhelmingly pro-gun. Gun owners will have no friend in the White House should this person somehow get elected. Stop painting Howard Dean as a pro-gun candidate just because he was governor of a pro-gun state.
67 posted on 08/12/2003 3:33:36 PM PDT by Chuckster ("If honor were profitable, everybody would be honorable." Thomas More)
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To: johnqueuepublic
Of course he can't. The question is a strategic one, to box Dean into a corner. To oppose such legislation spotlights Dean as the liberal extremist he is.
68 posted on 08/12/2003 4:09:10 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Chuckster
Ah-boy, we are talking about appearance i.e. how he can play himself in the public.

You'll see my point in the fall when the Assault Weapons Ban comes up and GW plays the role of Sarah Brady.
69 posted on 08/12/2003 5:56:37 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: onyx
Driven by what seems - from the outside anyway - a lemming-like rush to commit political suicide, Democrat party powerbrokers seem intent on selecting him as their standard bearer.

Why not, Dean represents the Democrat Party quite well, as this article indicates he is an extremist and "his positions on homosexual marriage, on the role of government, on defense and on abortion are far outside those of the mainstream of American voters."

70 posted on 08/12/2003 6:03:15 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Arnold represents the other California: entrepreneurial energy, wit and invention -- Mark Steyn)
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They sure are ! That should get their attention !! ...

71 posted on 08/12/2003 6:33:53 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: johnqueuepublic
bump
72 posted on 08/12/2003 6:39:55 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Desdemona
ping
73 posted on 08/12/2003 6:39:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: JohnGalt
Nope. Dean is a socialist; at worst, Dubya is a centrist. Huge difference. I am surprised at your take on this.
74 posted on 08/12/2003 6:49:33 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Guillermo

Clinton brought us RU486 and two vetoes on a law to ban partial birth abortion.

75 posted on 08/12/2003 8:05:12 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: ctlpdad
I would like to know more about the author and whether or not Dean actually served his OB-GYN rotation at a Planned Parenthood. And which one it was.

Trust but verify.
76 posted on 08/12/2003 8:19:25 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: victim soul
Having performed abortions at PP-hood (and later in practice), Dean is a serial killer running for the highest office in America. If the people elect a serial killer to that office, it certainly won't make of him a moderate or even a leftists ... because first and foremost he is a serial killer!
77 posted on 08/12/2003 11:41:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: johnqueuepublic
bttt
78 posted on 08/13/2003 1:00:23 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ctlpdad
We've had a few other articles from Pipeline.

When you read them closely, their writing seems loosely constructed. They seem to contain 'facts' that you don't find elsewhere along with some other better-known material.

I think they're a bit of a tabloid site. If you can't find confirmation of some of the more sensational facts elsewhere, you might want to avoid citing their material as a source.
79 posted on 08/13/2003 5:17:11 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: JohnGalt
I think the press and the establishment are the ones trying to make him look like an extremist when he is simply a rather bland New York transplant centrist.

I think he is a truly dangerous stealth candidate who will say and do anything to get elected.

On another issue, Social Security, he flat out got caught in a lie. He did, indeed, say the age for full Social Security should be raised to 68 or 70, then denied it in the debate last week. (I think I can find the documentation).

The environmentalists don't like him at all. Yet, he is trying to pass himself off as an environmentalist.

I really, really, really don't like this guy and disagree totally with those who say he'd be the best Dem candidate because he'd be the easiest to beat. I just don't want him to be one election day away from the Presidency...anything can happen. And, I really believe his lack of experience, his ambivalence about being truthful about issues, and his ethics regarding life would destroy the US.

80 posted on 08/13/2003 5:30:13 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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