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Congress to restrict use of Special Ops (The full story not just a teaser on Drudge!)
Washington Times ^
| 8/13/2003
| Bill Gertz
Posted on 08/12/2003 10:31:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:06:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Congress is set to impose new restrictions on the use of Special Operations Forces that for the first time will require a presidential order before deploying commandos in routine but hidden activities.
The restrictions are contained in the classified Senate report accompanying the current version of the intelligence authorization bill for fiscal 2004.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; billgertz; camboneunderstanding; congress; marines; militaryreadiness; navy; specialops; traitorsincongress; usaf; warlist; wot
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How much did the Opecker Thugs and Princes have to pay the rats in congress to even consider this.
Ann Coulter describes the Rats in Congress in her new book, Treason.
To: Grampa Dave
Are they considering adding the Senate Armed Services commitee to the list of those to be notified? *shudder*
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:34:58 PM PDT
by
risk
To: Grampa Dave
I said it in an earlier thread: This (change) ain't gonna happen. Not even Howard Dean or Shirley Jackson Lee can argue that Special Ops are a terrific bang for the buck. They couldn't even sell emasculating this option in Moscow.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:36:24 PM PDT
by
thegreatbeast
(Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
To: risk
If the rats in Congress are ever exposed to any covert or intel operation before they start, these operations are doomed to failure. They will sell that information to our enemies for another black hawk down fiasco.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:40:32 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: thegreatbeast
Well this will make our forces better.pfft
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:41:50 PM PDT
by
Pikamax
To: Grampa Dave
This makes my head really, really hurt.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:41:52 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: thegreatbeast
The problem is our SpecOps are too efficient and have too much bank for the buck.
So we can expect Generals and Admirals who are being forced out of a cushy job to ally with the rats to try and deball our Spec Ops.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:41:57 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
If the rats in Congress are ever exposed to any covert or intel operation before they start, these operations are doomed to failure Exactly !!
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:42:29 PM PDT
by
Mo1
(I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
To: Howlin
I want to see which congressits and $inators are trying push this through.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:43:08 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
Names. I want names.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:43:57 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: Grampa Dave
Pick one -- any one:
MEMBERSHIP
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REPUBLICANS
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DEMOCRATS
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Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman |
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John D. Rockefeller IV West Virginia, Vice Chairman |
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Orrin G. Hatch, Utah |
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Carl Levin, Michigan |
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Mike Dewine, Ohio |
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Dianne Feinstein, California |
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Christopher S. Bond, Missouri |
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Ron Wyden, Oregon |
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Trent Lott, Mississippi |
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Richard J. Durbin, Illinois |
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Olympia J. Snowe, Maine |
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Evan Bayh, Indiana |
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Chuck Hagel, Nebraska |
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John Edwards, North Carolina |
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Saxby Chambliss, Georgia |
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Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland |
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John W. Warner, Virginia |
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:44:58 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: risk
Armed Services Committee:
FULL COMMITTEE MEMBERS
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:46:58 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: Grampa Dave
Mr. Rumsfeld told Congress in February that the Bush administration is expanding the use of Special Operations Forces and has added $1.5 billion to its budget and nearly 2,000 more troops. ....And it made the Rats soooo jealous that they're now demanding he get their permission to deploy Spec. Ops.
(Not to mention $1.5B cuts into their welfare schemes!)
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:48:35 PM PDT
by
Humidston
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
To: Grampa Dave
Dear DoD:
CC: Congress
I, being the afore mentioned President of the United States, in accordance with article #, of said law do hereby authorize covert special actions in the country of Iraq.
Signed,
GW Bush, President
To: Howlin
Oh, so now here you are posting the facts after telling me Drudge is just a rumor monger and gets things "wrong".
To: Grampa Dave
What a creative move by our anti-America politicians (our in government enemies). This way there would be no secret Special Ops because any operation has to go through the Congress and therefore direct to America's enemies.
How do they plan to insure that the committee or whatever that gets these advisories from the president are loyal Americans voted in by the American public and entrusted with the defense of America? How do they rule out "moles" or subversive anti-American politicians that have worked their way into the seat of our government, into this particular governmental committee and therefore a direct pipeline to our enemies?
I can just hear it now - "What- you mean Rep Jones (Muslim activist who now is in the Congress) cannot sit on that committee?? That is discrimination - all government positions should be open to all representatives no matter their religion, their beliefs, their loyalties".
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:50:09 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: Grampa Dave
I want to see which congressits and $inators are trying push this through. 
Measure killed in committee. . .man, that's gonna leave a mark. . . .
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:50:38 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: Howlin
My bet it was snowe who voted with the rats. Look at her and image her with a conical hate.
Besides she has slept with a small unimportnat state govenor much as the hildebeast has.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:50:52 PM PDT
by
dts32041
(So how do you like taxation with representation?)
To: Howlin
Every rat in your two replies is a suspect re this BS.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:51:01 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
Hmmm, last I checked the Pubs ran the Senate. What are they thinking? Dubya should make it clear he will veto this appropriation bill if it contains this restriction.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:51:14 PM PDT
by
Hugin
To: ClancyJ
You nailed it Clancy.
The rats under Carter started deballing and hamstringing our CIA until it became a Diversity Quilting Party.
As you noted, this could happen to all potential covert ops if the Rats in Congress got involved.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:52:50 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
Just think what the Saudis could do with their bribes and this committee. What about Bin Laden and his funds? What about a Hillary on that committee who cares only for her own power and who would sell America to the highest bidder?
The fact that such a proposal is being made is downright scary to me. I now worry.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:54:11 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: PhilDragoo
Probably the old left over commies and the new Islamofascist congressits worked together to put up this latest act of treason.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:54:22 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
....Which reminds me.... Didn't the CIA actually, truly, have quilts they made - displayed at HQ or was that a fallacy?
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:54:37 PM PDT
by
Humidston
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
To: maui_hawaii
Dear DoD:
CC: Congress
I, being the afore mentioned President of the United States, in accordance with article #, of said law do hereby authorize covert special actions in the country of Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, N. Korea and the District of Columbia.
Signed,
GW Bush, President
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:55:50 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Hugin
That is why I want to see the names.
If repubies were involved in this, where they Rinos like Snow or ?
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:56:56 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
Did you see Bush will make a recess appointment for Daniel Pipes on the USIP?
I think this covert ops corset is getting stuffed up some clymer's clymer.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:57:19 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: Grampa Dave
Then they would argue over what the term "specific" means...
:o)
To: ClancyJ
Don't forget George Soros. He is apparently a key donor to the new fund of the rats to get rid our president.
The Saudis and the murdering mullahs of Iraq would gladly spend a lot of money with the rats in Congress to bring about something like this.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:59:14 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave; Howlin
Gertz is usually more forthright --- I KNOW he knows the names of the Sinitors (as you call them.
My choice is Carl Levin --- the all-knowing-all-con'troll'ing-anti-American-one-man-partisan-slime-machine.
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posted on
08/12/2003 10:59:53 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: Humidston
The CIA under the Clintoons had stopped spying and was running Diversity Quility parties to strengthen the concept of Diversity.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:00:21 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
Hm.....Bush is killing the democrats by raising millions for his re-election campaign. The dems may have to resort to "selling" to be able to win their power back. All is ok if it gets the dems in power you know.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:01:11 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
(It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
To: Grampa Dave; McGavin999
Hell, they ALL look guilty to me!
McGavin has a good idea to add here!
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:01:18 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: Grampa Dave
I thought I'd read that somewhere here, but when I told a lib they had quilts displayed in their lobby he called me a liar. HA! I wish....
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:01:35 PM PDT
by
Humidston
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
To: PhilDragoo
I hadn't seen that about Pipes getting a recess appointment.
We hope as you labeled it, that this covert ops corset gets shoved up the rat's clymers.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:01:56 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: onyx
He's on my list, too.
But I'd REALLY love to find out John Edwards had something to do with it!
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:02:06 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: onyx; Howlin
Carl Levin without a doubt would be a prime traitor suspect here.
However, when you look over the two lists that Howlin posted, all of those rats are suspects. I would not trust a single one of them to keep a secret to protect our country.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:03:53 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Fledermaus
Yes, I'm posting facts.
Don't you wish you could say that about Drudge?
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:04:59 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: onyx
My choice is Carl Levin --- the all-knowing-all-con'troll'ing-anti-American-one-man-partisan-slime-machine.
Don't rule out John D. Rockefeller IV either
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:05:14 PM PDT
by
Mo1
(I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
To: Howlin
If I was GW, I'd have every one of their sorry fannies lined up and ripped in public. Then I'd go find that piece of trash Boy Bill, and I'd strip him naked, tar and feather him, and run him out of town - along with that butch wife of his!
Guess that's why I'm not president, eh?
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:05:31 PM PDT
by
Humidston
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
To: Grampa Dave
The Rats? Did you see Chuck Hagle's name there?
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:05:35 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: Grampa Dave
Well this new rule should make terrorists very happy. Thank you Congress for thinking of US?
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: "ATTACK ON AMERICA!" (Updated)
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:06:02 PM PDT
by
Cindy
To: Howlin
Edwards is stupid, but is he THAT stupid?
I eliminated Edwards and Hillary becuase of their presidential aspirations.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:06:05 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: Grampa Dave
Trent Lott? John McCain? Susan Collins?
Put them ALL on the list.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:06:17 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: onyx
Onyx, WE don't think like they do. They probably think this is a godo thing.
Do not EVER eliminate HER from anything.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:07:14 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(<------Being stalked by a whacko!!!!)
To: ClancyJ; Liz
Plus the fact that several former big time donors to the DNC are now facing jail terms or like Martha looking at the possibility.
Those people and Martha don't have unlimited resources like they did under the Clintoons.
Liz and I have been posting for over two years that the big time rat donors are able to step up to the bar and donate big time.
So as you noted, if they want to win, that money will have to come from somewhere. We know that the Clintoons/Goron were in bed with the Chicoms for reelection money. Any enemy of America can now probably buy a US Rat $inator for a million $s.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:08:28 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
To: Grampa Dave
Bing go!
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:09:03 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
To: Grampa Dave
VETO
To: Grampa Dave
I would not trust a single one of them to keep a secret to protect our country.You'll not get an arguement from me!
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:09:33 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: Howlin
Levin, Kennedy, Clinton.
If those three aren't the most trustworthy souls to have on the Armed Services Committee, I don't know who is.
Blowing chunks.
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posted on
08/12/2003 11:10:27 PM PDT
by
FlyVet
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