[Psycho_Bunny]

After a city-council member was recently killed at New York City Hall, Mayor Michael Bloomberg questioned why James Davis, the murdered councilman, would want to carry a gun. Davis, a retired police officer, had a permit to carry a gun, but Mayor Bloomberg found it very troubling: "I don't know why people carry guns. Guns kill people…"

I'd make the effort to follow the logic of Bloomberg's conclusion but, I live on the planet Earth.

[harpseal]

bang.

I do not think that former police officers should have any special rights to carry a gun to places an ordinary citizen cannot. That said Bloomberg is an idiot for wishing to bar any legal weapons carrier from city hall.

[Hank Kerchief]

# All gun control is wrong. Anyone should able to purchase, own, and carry a gun without getting anyone's permission, approval. or consent.

# As a result of further research, the above is amended as follows:

Most gun control is wrong. Anyone should able to purchase, own, and carry a gun without getting anyone's permission, approval. or consent, except that no member or employee of any government agency should be allowed to own or carry a gun.

# There is nothing to fear from any citizen carrying a gun, unless he is a member of some law enforcement agency.

# Question: If the police are not allowed to carry guns, how will they stop criminals who have guns? Answer: The same way they stop them now. Not at all.

From: The Autonomist's Notebook - Gun Control

Hank

[paul51]

I don't know why people carry guns

Ahhh. Could it be that maybe people would like to be able to defend themselves?

[LandofLincoln]

Here in Illinois, a police officer is considered on duty 24/7. If he is not on duty he is on call, which means that he has to be armed. I can assure you that the gun did not find its way into city hall, and fire itself at the councilman. Some jackass half-human being carried it in there and fired it.

GUNS KILL PEOPLE LIKE A SPOON MADE ROSIE O'DONNELL FAT!

[CHICAGOFARMER]

TEN RULES OF A GUNFIGHT

Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two. Bring friends with guns.

Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Only hits count.

If your shooting stance is good you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.

Keep shooting until the threat no longer exists; then stay sharp until somebody with a badge tells you to freeze.

If you can choose what to bring to a gun fight, bring a shotgun and a friend.

In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.


If you are not shooting you should be reloading or running.

Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

[Henrietta]

"Bloomberg's new solution: Ban off-duty and former cops from being able to carry guns in city hall. Davis was blindsided by the attack and was unable to use his gun to protect himself. The attack was stopped by an on-duty police officer. Yet, it is hard to see why it is possible for New Yorkers to trust an on-duty officer but somehow minutes after he goes off-duty to no longer trust him."

Off duty cops don't need guns. They can apply for a permit if they want to carry.

We ordinary serfs (um, I mean citizens...) are generally not permitted to carry guns unless we go thru a permit process, the "logic" behind this infringement on our rights being that the State needs to ensure we are not a danger to society, and do a background check on us. In many states, serfs are not permitted to carry guns at all. If we ordinary people don't need guns, then off-duty cops don't need them either. After all, they are off-duty, right? They don't have a duty to protect us off-duty, so their only justification for carrying off-duty would be a need to protect themselves, and this just isn't needed, unless you have a permit.

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

[joesnuffy]

Take a long look at all the quality of life in those societies that have banned their citizens from owning guns for personal and family defense..
Predators only understand one thing...armed prey is to be avoided...unarmed pray is easy...

[PaxMacian]

" I don't know why anyone would want to own a gun. Guns kill people."

One obvious reason is to protect ourselves from powerful yet constitutionally ignorant fascists who possess irrational fears of attacks from inanimate objects.

[jimkress]

Off-Duty Bans: Should cops have guns?

Not if I can't!

[Coleus]

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[Calpernia]

Ping....a blog in the making!

[Valin]

Mayor Michael Bloomberg
"Ordinarily he was insane,
but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid."
Heinrich Heine (1797 - 1856)

[WomanofStandard]

I find it reassuring to know that an off duty police officer, I may be with is carrying a gun because he/she is someone fully trained in not only the gun's use but in other aspects of dealing with dangerous situations. I wouldn't one myself, but I am sure glad the police have them on them at all times.

Bloomberg's brain is frying under the pressure of his low poll ratings. By making it illegal for officers to carry a gun off duty is putting that officer's life in harms way for sure. They are targets already but if a law is passed forbiding them to carry off duty, it may as well be open season on cops in NYC anyway. Too many disgruntled arrestees in my opinion for any officer's life to be considered safe, on or off duty.

[gonzo]

"...Sen. Ted Kennedy, (D., Mass.), who is leading the threatened filibuster, claims that the measure would "do great damage to the effort of state and local governments to protect their citizens from gun violence." He argues the law would also "undermine the safety of law enforcement."..."

When Ted, the killer of Mary-Jo, travels, he has plenty of armed Federales to protect him, and find the watering holes.

"...Mayor Bloomberg found it very troubling: "I don't know why people carry guns. Guns kill people"..."

There's no logic involved, kids. The name of the game is 'Citizen-Disarmmament'.............FRegards

[sheik yerbouty]

The blooming idiot of a mayor has a bad case of "little man syndrome". He's another John Lindsey.

[CholeraJoe]

What is next? Banning guns carried by on-duty officers?

Worked in Britain and Canada. /sarcasm