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Paxil Kills (Ditto Prozac, Zoloft)
Anderson Valley Advertiser ^ | August 13, 2003 | Fred Gardner

Posted on 08/14/2003 4:40:59 AM PDT by Wolfie

PAXIL KILLS ( DITTO PROZAC, ZOLOFT )

By an amazing coincidence, just as their patents are running out, the "blockbuster" antidepressants introduced by Eli Lilly, Pfizer, and other pharmaceutical corporations in the late 1980s and early 1990s are being exposed as dangerous -potentially fatal, in fact. The New York Times ran a front-page story Aug. 7 stating "Doctors are just beginning to react to the finding - -reported first by British drug authorities in June and then endorsed the next week by the Food and Drug Administration -that unpublished studies about Paxil show that it carries a substantial risk of prompting teenagers and children to consider suicide."

British government regulators analyzed data from nine studies and concluded that Paxil more than tripled the incidence of suicide attempts -not just fantasies-in children and teenagers.

Moreover, Paxil is only slightly more effective than sugar pills at relieving depression. Since Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa and other "selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors" affect the same neurotransmitters, they presumably have similar safety and efficacy profiles.

The drug companies have responded to the British report with a predictable array of tactics-deny, obfuscate, claim benefit instead of harm, stall in the name of science, then negotiate the mildest possible slap on the wrist. "'We're trying right now to look at this issue with the FDA and come up with an understanding together of what the data mean,' said Dr. Philip Perera, a medical director of GlaxoSmithKline, the British company that makes Paxil. Pfizer, the maker of Zoloft, said that its drug was different from Paxil and had passed all FDA safety evaluations... Eli Lilly & Company said that Prozac does not cause suicides."

That Prozac causes suicide has been known to Lilly since the mid-1980s, when German regulators reported the connection. Then, almost immediately after its release in the U.S., we began hearing about bizarre Prozac-induced suicides and homicides. In response to the swell of ominous anecdotal evidence, the FDA convened a panel of experts -most of them on drug-company payrolls-who promptly gave Prozac their seal of approval.

Is the Times story implicitly critical of the FDA is designated experts for exposing millions of people to dangerous drugs without so much as a small-print warning on the labels? No, science writer Gardiner Harris invites their self-justifications, which he quotes without challenge. Here's Jeffrey A. Lieberman, a professor of psychiatry and pharmacology: "In 1991 we said there wasn't sufficient evidence to support a link between these drugs and suicide. Now there is evidence, at least in children, and I wouldn't rule out that it's in adults, too."

But there WAS evidence in 1991 -Peter Breggin, MD, presented it to the FDA with ample documentation- and Lieberman and his colleagues chose to ignore it. What enables Scientists ( with a capital S and corporate or government affiliation ) to ignore obvious reality is the sanctity of ithe literature" -the ever-expanding set of peer-reviewed journals, a modern-day Talmud, complete with prestigious expositors and quasi-religious authority.

The "peer review" process involves an editor at a journal ( supported by drug-company ads ) submitting an article to researchers of his acquaintance ( who are employed directly or indirectly by drug companies ) for approval prior to publication. As if that made the results irrefragably true!

"Unpublished" as used in the lead of the Times story, means "has not appeared in 'the literature.'" A small, flawed study conducted by a PhD in the pay of Eli Lilly and printed in the pages of a journal supported by ads from Eli Lilly is "published," and therefore presumed to be valid. A fact-filled book by an iconoclastic doctor like Peter Breggin or John Lee is "unpublished" and therefore dismissed as "mere anecdotal evidence." That's Science for you in the corporate state. The drug companies pay for studies of their products and then don't publish the ones that show dangers and ineffectiveness.

The Times story quotes Charles B. Nemeroff, a Lilly-funded professor of psychiatry at Emory University: "There is simply no scientific evidence whatsoever, no placebo-controlled double-blind study, that has established a cause-and-effect relationship between antidepressant pharmacotherapy of any class and suicidal acts or ideation". Dr. Nemeroff said he believed that his statement was accurate then and remains so, since he has not seen any published study to contradict it.

The Times puts the total number of SSRI prescriptions issued in the U.S. at just under 120 million, with about six million going to kids and teenagers. If a typical 'script is good for two months and is renewed twice, that means two million American kids are on Prozac and its analogues. We know that at least two of them, Eric Harris, of Columbine, Colorado and Kip Kunkel of Springield, Oregon, plotted massacres under the influence of their legally prescribed SSRIs.

According to Harris of the Times, "Some of the early critics say the warnings demonstrate their prescience. 'I feel vindicated,' said Joseph Glenmullen, author of 'Prozac Backlash...' Your correspondent does not feel vindicated, he feels powerless and desperate and depressed beyond what any drug can relieve. Is there a sadder phrase in the language than "I told you so?"


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: depression; drugs; mentalhealth
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1 posted on 08/14/2003 4:40:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
The Times puts the total number of SSRI prescriptions issued in the U.S. at just under 120 million, with about six million going to kids and teenagers.

That's almost half of the total population.

And these death-drugs are legal?

2 posted on 08/14/2003 4:44:58 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: Wolfie
Idiotic article. You might s well say that since people with headaches take aspirin, that "aspirin is linked to headaches" so therefore "aspirin causes headaches".
3 posted on 08/14/2003 4:45:48 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: Wolfie
The Columbine shooters, and several other (if not all) school shooters were on one or more of these drugs.
4 posted on 08/14/2003 4:50:50 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: Wolfie
British government regulators analyzed data from nine studies and concluded that Paxil more than tripled the incidence of suicide attempts -not just fantasies-in children and teenagers.

Similarly, Preparation H users are three times as likely to have hemorrhoids. Better pull it from the shelves...

Moreover, Paxil is only slightly more effective than sugar pills at relieving depression. Since Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa and other "selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors" affect the same neurotransmitters, they presumably have similar safety and efficacy profiles.

Now I'm convinced. It's only slightly more effective. How could anyone stand in the face of such solid evidence?

The drug companies have responded to the British report with a predictable array of tactics-deny, obfuscate, claim benefit instead of harm, stall in the name of science, then negotiate the mildest possible slap on the wrist.

No bias in this article. No sir, none at all...

5 posted on 08/14/2003 4:54:50 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
It's okay that the article is biased, though, because pharmaceutical companies are on the PC "Okay to bash" list along with conservatives.
6 posted on 08/14/2003 4:59:29 AM PDT by aardvark1
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To: Wolfie
And they say street drugs are dangerous! Time for the WOD to turn on the big pharm co's.
7 posted on 08/14/2003 5:02:53 AM PDT by 11B3 (Democrat=Communist="Progressive". $hit by any other name still smells the same.)
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To: Wolfie
Paxil is only slightly more effective than sugar pills at relieving depression.

Mmmmmm! Sugar pills!!

8 posted on 08/14/2003 5:13:54 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Wolfie
The "peer review" process involves an editor at a journal ( supported by drug-company ads ) submitting an article to researchers of his acquaintance ( who are employed directly or indirectly by drug companies ) for approval prior to publication. As if that made the results irrefragably true!

??? This describes the entire medical and most of the legal and insurance profession. Perhaps the crackpot author would prefer the peer review conducted by plumbers, or iron workers???
9 posted on 08/14/2003 5:16:54 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ActionNewsBill
Correlation is not causation.
10 posted on 08/14/2003 5:30:31 AM PDT by sauropod (Graduate: Burt Gummer's Survival School)
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To: Wolfie
Dumb article, but Prozac, Sarafem, etc. are NOT wonder drugs.

While people with emotional problems who take these meds are obviously more prone to suicide than the average population, my experience is that these 'happy pills' are evil.

My wife started taking them about 18 months ago. While she was a bit bi-polar (fun to be around when she was happy, run for the hills when she got mad), now she's emotionally empty and either angry or depressed almost all of the time.

She lost all positive emotions immediately, our sex life stopped, she lost weight for a few months, then gained what she lost times 3, drinks to excess frequently - not a pretty picture, but common side effects of these drugs.

Our marriage is now basically nil - you just can't solve your problems with a pill.

Her cousin started taking these about the same time. Marriage over, husband doesn't know what hit him, kids scarred for life.

We tell our kids 'don't do drugs'. We should follow the same advise. SARAFEM RUINED MY WIFE!

11 posted on 08/14/2003 5:35:05 AM PDT by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Bill raped, Monica swallowed, Hillary totally sucks.)
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To: Wolfie
That stuff sounds dangerous. I'm glad it carries the FDA seal of approval. /sarcasm
12 posted on 08/14/2003 5:37:30 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Wolfie
British government regulators analyzed data from nine studies and concluded that Paxil more than tripled the incidence of suicide attempts -not just fantasies-in children and teenagers.

It would be so nice to have a footnoted reference or two for assertions like this because the author leaves the reader asking the obvious question: "To whom was the Paxil group compared? The non-depressed teen population or depressed but untreated teens?"

Additionally, the criticism of the peer review process is well deserved but poorly presented. It's unfortunate that it comes across as hysterical and easily dismissed, because it is a subject that deserves serious debate.

13 posted on 08/14/2003 5:46:49 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: aardvark1
When the makeers of Prozac are pushing to have TWO year olds take their drug, they DESERVE to be bashed.

Of course the position of the drug co's will be "there is a pill for every ill and 'hyper' child", but that doesn't mean we should call them on it.
14 posted on 08/14/2003 5:47:32 AM PDT by Guillermo (Dishes are up in your kitchen sink? Try Zoloft!)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
I am sorry to hear of your wifes troubles. SeraFem, and the marketing of it (initially, there were TV commercials touting it for PMS!!!) make me nuts. SeraFem IS Prozac repackaged (with a daisy on the box!). That is it. Prozac for bloating and irritability. That is what it was marketed at. Don't give up on your family...can you get your wife to go to another doc?
15 posted on 08/14/2003 5:50:34 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: aardvark1
"It's okay that the article is biased, though, because pharmaceutical companies are on the PC "Okay to bash" list along with conservatives."

Good one. The liberals are having a hey-day bashing pharmaceutical companies right now. Check out the website below that gives lots of in-depth info about who gives financial support to each party. Hint: Trial lawyers, for example, DON'T give a whole heck of a lot to Republicans. But, Boy! Do they GIVE!!

http://www.opensecrets.org



16 posted on 08/14/2003 5:51:19 AM PDT by Maria S ("..I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end" Uday H.)
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To: aardvark1
*shouldn't call them*, rather.

Need that cup of coffee!
17 posted on 08/14/2003 5:51:35 AM PDT by Guillermo (Dishes are up in your kitchen sink? Try Zoloft!)
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To: Lil'freeper
Link to original article referenced by the author.

Debate Resumes On The Safey Of Depression's Wonder Drugs

18 posted on 08/14/2003 5:54:09 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Where is that pic of "Oh Geez, not this shit again!" when we need it?
19 posted on 08/14/2003 5:56:01 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: ActionNewsBill

Look at the masthead of the source paper. Read those quotes.

20 posted on 08/14/2003 5:57:59 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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