Alabama's Chief Justice Refuses to Remove Ten Commandments

Fox News ^ | 8/14/03 | Fox News' Jonathan Serrie and The Associated Press

[talleyman]

MONTGOMERY, Ala.

[talleyman]

follow-up to previous thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/958820/posts

[talleyman]

PS - I did search & didn't see this posted elsewhere

[joesnuffy]

The ACLU and other commies just hate those ten commandments
they dont like any law precepts or rules...unless dey is nice and fluid ...- man made laws
Commies dont like absolutes...that they cant be above

[lilylangtree]

Go Judge Moore! What's going to be interesting is with the media present the ACLU demands that the police cart the judge off to jail. The backlash against the ACLU would be great.

[TheGrimReaper]

"To assure that the state of Alabama is ‘a government of laws not of men’ as our Constitution requires.”

The federal judge reveals his ignorance as to what the Ten Commandments actually are.
Or...he has inadvertently made a case for keeping them in place - not removing them.

[Catspaw]

Judge Houston is a judge on the Alabama Supreme Court, not a federal judge.

http://www.alalinc.net/appellate/supreme/judge.cfm?Houston=Judge

[Your Nightmare]

Moore pledged to ask the Supreme Court to overrule Thompson and said the promised fines would add to the approximate $125 million the state has already spent defending the monument's place. The state is spending $25,000 a day of taxpayers' money on the case, Moore said.

$125 Million!! If the state has paid that much defending this case, Chief Justice Moore should be impeached immediately. If this display only has historical significance, it's not worth $125 million to defend. If it has religious significance, it should be removed.

[TheGrimReaper]

The worst day in the existence of one of those miserable fascists will be when they face God on judgment day and have to admit "I was an attorney for the ACLU."

And NO, there won't be any 72 virgins waiting, either.

[Catspaw]

U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson (search) of Montgomery, who ruled the monument violates the constitution's ban on government promotion of religion, had said fines of about $5,000 a day would have been imposed against the state if the monument were not removed.

This isn't quite accurate. In his order, Judge Thompson said if the state was held in contempt, he proposed that the the fines would be $5000 for day for the first week and would double every week until the maximum allowed by law.

[Russell Scott]

Nice place to post my scriptures of the day. Read it carefully and get a nice blessing.1

Nahum 1
7 The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.
8 But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies.
9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time.
10 For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.
11 There is one come out of thee, that imagineth evil against the LORD, a wicked counsellor.
12 Thus saith the LORD; Though they be quiet, and likewise many, yet thus shall they be cut down, when he shall pass through. Though I have afflicted thee, I will afflict thee no more.
13 For now will I break his yoke from off thee, and will burst thy bonds in sunder.
14 And the LORD hath given a commandment concerning thee, that no more of thy name be sown: out of the house of thy gods will I cut off the graven image and the molten image: I will make thy grave; for thou art vile.
15 Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace! O Judah, keep thy solemn feasts, perform thy vows: for the wicked shall no more pass through thee; he is utterly cut off.

[TheGrimReaper]

The context of the paragraph in which that quote appears leads me to believe that is was part of the written statement by Judge Houston. Did I miss something?

[sinkspur]

Is Moore just showboating? An Alabama poster said he did something like this to get himself elected to the Supreme Court.

If he's costing the state millions, he ought to be impeached.

[LiteKeeper]

SITREP

[Catspaw]

The federal judge reveals his ignorance as to what the Ten Commandments actually are.

Or...he has inadvertently made a case for keeping them in place - not removing them.

You said this after the quote Alabama Supreme Court Justice Gorman. Were you referring to Federal District Court Judge Thompson instead?

[TheGrimReaper]

My mistake. I finally figured it all out.
Thanks.

[Sandy]

he has no intention of removing a Ten Commandments

Big deal. The monument will be removed by others. Count on it.

[an amused spectator]

$125 Million!! If the state has paid that much defending this case, Chief Justice Moore should be impeached immediately. If this display only has historical significance, it's not worth $125 million to defend. If it has religious significance, it should be removed.

Cool! Anyone in government who dares stand up to one of the 800-odd members of the unelected Federal Judicial Executive SuperLegislature should be removed.

SLAGCR - Strategic Lawsuits Against Government By Constitutional Republic. At this rate, the ACLU will be mandating that we turn our grandchildren over to pedophiles for "sensitivity training" within 15 years.

[Impy]

I say even if the SC orders it taken down they should be ignored. Let Ginsburg go down to Alabama and just try to remove it herself.

[talleyman]

If it has religious significance, it should be removed.

I disagree. I thought we had freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. My copy of the Constitution says "Congress shall make no law..." I don't think this particular monument was the result of a Congressional Act, although I could be wrong. (I thought I was wrong once before, but I was mistaken.)

[Catspaw]

Is Moore just showboating? An Alabama poster said he did something like this to get himself elected to the Supreme Court.

In the 11th circuit decision, it talks about him running as "The Ten Commandment Judge." I can post a link to it if you'd like.

If he's costing the state millions, he ought to be impeached.

I don't think he cares how much this is costing the state. The plaintiff's legal fees are estimated to cost around $750,000, which will go up when he appeals to the USSC. The fines the district court judge proposed start at $5,000 a day, doubling every week to the legal maximum. On another thread, I found a news report of another federal court case where the daily fines for contempt were $500,000 per day. I haven't researched what the daily maximum fine could be, but for a small state with a $700 million shortfall, the fines could end up being $3.5 million per week, week after week, until the contempt is purged.