Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Lawyer claims Oldfield website vilifies Muslims
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | August 18, 2003

Posted on 08/18/2003 2:07:30 AM PDT by veronica

A Melbourne lawyer is trying to shut down a website linked to the NSW One Nation MLC David Oldfield, claiming it vilifies Muslims.

Coburg solicitor Hisam Sidaoui is taking Mr Oldfield to the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) over muslimterrorists.com, arguing it breaches the state's Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

In return, Mr Oldfield has accused Mr Sidaoui of being "vexatious and frivolous" and filed to have the case dismissed.

Mr Sidaoui said he decided to act on behalf of all Victorians because the website was "overtly offensive" and "vilifying in all aspects".

The website quotes "one particular Australian" saying: "The biggest mistake a person can make is to think Muslims are people just like us - they are nothing like us".

Page headings include "Islamic Terror in Australia", "Muslim racists calling the kettle black" and "Muslim prayer breaks thin edge of the wedge".

"There's one part that says there's a higher rate of birth defects in Sydney's inner-western suburbs (where there is a large Muslim population)," Mr Sidaoui said.

"What's he saying, that Muslims are genetically inferior?"

Another page has a preface saying the website "does not intend to take a position, but rather, open matters for the expression of the views of readers".

Mr Oldfield, who said he and One Nation were no longer associated with the site "but stood by everything on it", challenged Mr Sidaoui to prove anything on it was false.

He said the site was designed to inform Australians about Islam and terrorism.

"Mr Sidaoui thinks the Australian government, the United States government, the British government and the Israeli government are terrorists," he said.

"I suppose that's a presumption on my behalf but that's my experience - that he's an Islamic activist, not a terrorist, on behalf of the Islamic cause."

Mr Sidaoui said he was confident the website contravened the state's Racial and Religious Tolerance Act, introduced early last year.

He said Mr Oldfield reflected this by adding a disclaimer, warning that people viewing the site in Victoria may be breaking the law, after learning of the legal threat.

"I want an apology on that website and some sort of compensation. I want him to give money to a Muslim charity," Mr Sidaoui said.

Mr Oldfield said the case would be watched with interest by people working with the internet.

"I think it's very strange to have a state-based law that is enacted against people who have not acted in that state," he said.

"Mr Sidaoui doesn't have to look at the site. If he is so offended by it, why does he keep looking at it?"

The case goes before VCAT on August 28.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: australia; restrictedspeech

1 posted on 08/18/2003 2:07:31 AM PDT by veronica
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

Comment #2 Removed by Moderator

To: veronica
And freedom begins to die in yet another country in the anglosphere.

I just don't understand how the Canucks, Aussies, and others can sit back and allow their basic freedoms to be taken away by their governments.
3 posted on 08/18/2003 2:21:18 AM PDT by swilhelm73
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: veronica
....the state's Racial and Religious Tolerance Act...
4 posted on 08/18/2003 2:38:06 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: veronica
...if the shoebomb fits....
5 posted on 08/18/2003 2:50:50 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: veronica
As Jack Nicholson would say The truth Hisam Sidaoui, you can"t handle the truth!!
6 posted on 08/18/2003 3:08:27 AM PDT by Fighter@heart (removal of this tag line must be punishable by SOME law, somewhere!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: veronica
Not all Muslims are terrorists but nearly all terrorists are Muslim.
7 posted on 08/18/2003 3:52:58 AM PDT by samtheman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: samtheman
ALL muslims do directly or indirectly suppprt terrorism by total inaction.

Hardly anyone in this forum is aware how much influence these imams there and in the west have on all muslims. Like the pope has influence on all Catholics.
8 posted on 08/18/2003 4:21:30 AM PDT by observer5
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: samtheman
Not all Muslims are terrorists but nearly all terrorists are Muslim.

I disagree as you have it worded. All good moslems are terrorists. Their scriptures command it. The only non-terrorist moslem is a bad moslem as he is violating his own scriptures

So, if to be a moslem means following the koran, then all moslems are terrorists.

9 posted on 08/18/2003 9:30:49 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: John O
If a person calls himself a Muslim, to me he's a Muslim. By that definition, there are one billion Muslims in the world. The vast majority of those billion people want the same peace and prosperity as everybody else.

Again, not all Muslims are terrorists but nearly all terrorists are Muslims. We need to do profiling in airports, near power plants, and in other key situations.

10 posted on 08/19/2003 3:41:02 AM PDT by samtheman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: samtheman
I think you missed my point.

Let me try it this way. According to the bible if a person denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God then that person is not a Christian. If he calls himself a Christian yet denies Christ he is not a Christian. If he calls himself a Christian yet denies Christ through his actions, such as being pro-abortion, pro-gay, democrat etc then he is not a Christian.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

While all men sin those who love Jesus try to keep his commandments. If they don't then Jesus is not in them and they are not Christian. (This is greatly simplified but hopefully you get the point) By refusing to keep his commandments (or even try to) they are denying Christ and are thus not Christian.

If a moslem does not follow the koran then they are not really moslems no matter what they call themselves. To follow the koran makes one a terrorist (as the koran commands acts of terror and war against all who are not moslems). Therefore all 'moslems' are terrorists.

The twist is that even those nominal moslems who don't commit acts of terror support those who do (else why haven't they hunted the terrorists down?)

Moslem = terrorist
By definition of the koran.

11 posted on 08/19/2003 5:41:25 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: John O; samtheman
Said another way, the only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.

Confusing as all get out, but true nonetheless.
12 posted on 08/19/2003 5:44:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: John O
Your point is legalistic and confining. There are millions of Moslems who do not choose to interpret the Koran your way. Just as, I am sure, there are millions of Christians who do not choose to interpret the Bible your way. I don't go by books. I go by actions. The actions of the vast majority of Moslems are peaceful. If we lose sight of that, we risk giving Bin Laden what he most wants: total war in which one billion soldiers are actively fighting on the side of the terrorists.
13 posted on 08/20/2003 3:22:07 AM PDT by samtheman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: samtheman
The actions of the vast majority of Moslems are peaceful.

Then these are not really moslems. They are disobeying their scriptures and are not following mohammed. They are moslems in name only.

If we lose sight of that, we risk giving Bin Laden what he most wants: total war in which one billion soldiers are actively fighting on the side of the terrorists.

One billion stone age fanatics vs the USA armed forces. I kind of like those odds.

The war on terrorism will not end until islam is eradicated. Either all the islamics will become MINO's or they will become Christians or Jesus will return and make the whole issue moot. (I prefer the last option but I pray that the moslems will get saved before it's too late)

Ann Coulter was right, we need to convert them for their own good as well as ours

14 posted on 08/20/2003 8:07:39 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: samtheman
One last point. This interpretation of the Koran is not just mine, the bigh islamic schools in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, and Egypt as well as the majority of the 'Arab street' all interpret it the same.
15 posted on 08/20/2003 8:09:19 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: John O
And my last word on this subject is this:

I stand with President Bush on this issue. It's a war on terror, not a war on Islam.
16 posted on 08/21/2003 11:31:07 AM PDT by samtheman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: samtheman
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Until next time
17 posted on 08/21/2003 12:07:26 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: John O
OK.
18 posted on 08/22/2003 3:49:21 AM PDT by samtheman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson