Posted on 08/27/2003 11:33:41 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
to protect state and individual rights from a national govt - religion ---
that WALL has been breeched - demolished by liberals - EVOLUTIONIST !
"The real object of the [First] [A]mendment was not to countenance, much less to advance, Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects, and to prevent any ... national ecclesiastical establishment --- which should give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage * * of the national government. It thus cut off the means of religious persecution (the vice and pest of former ages), and of the subversion of the rights of conscience in matters of religion, which had been trampled upon almost from the days of the Apostles to the present age. . . ." (Footnotes omitted.)
Check out the link above !
Old wall constitutionalist ... keep govt out ---
new wall constitutionalist (( sharia )) --- keep God - truth - science out !
... * * ... guess who --- rag heads - liberals !
Revelation 12
1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.
3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. 5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
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The founding of America
Book review of: The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital
Compare the information with the first three verses, the birth of a nation, woman (Virgo), Dragon's head, etc...
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In his book, The Secret Architecture of our Nation's Capital, David Ovason describes in great detail the astrological underpinnings of Washington, D.C. and its connection to the sign of Virgo and the ancient Goddess mysteries. Ovason stresses that the Masons, who were among the city's architects and planners and who were present at the groundbreaking foundation ceremonies, were knowledgeable about astrology. In the tradition of ancient astrologers, they would have recognized the link between the stars and the destiny of cities. The most recent New Moon that occurred on Monday, September 17th was at 24 degrees of Virgo. Ovason cites 24 degrees of Virgo as a "critical degree" that repeatedly recurs in the city's most important horoscopes. In the federal city's founding horoscope of April 21, 1791, the day the city foundation stone was laid, Virgo was on the ascendant, with Jupiter rising at 23 degrees Virgo. On October 13, 1792, the day the foundation stone for the White House was laid, both the moon and the North node were conjunct at 23 degrees Virgo. "On September 18th, 1793, when President George Washington in his role as Grand Master laid the foundation stone for the Capitol," writes Ovason, "the Sun was in 24 degrees of Virgo, and thus reflected the Virgoan nature of the new city. When the cornerstone for the Washington Monument was laid July 4th, 1848, the moon went into Virgo; more importantly, the north node was at 25 Virgo."
"According to medieval Arab astrologers," writes Ovason, "this degree had a particular importance: it marked that point in the zodiac where the Moon was thought to promote the greatest happiness and well-being. We must presume, then, that the intention behind the choice of moment was that this beneficial influence would be transmitted into Washington, D.C."
Aligned with the Stars
Ovason suggests that Washington's planners followed the teachings of the ancient Greek and Egyptian mysteries by aligning the city with a constellation's fixed stars. His well-researched book explores the mystery of the 1791 planning of the city's Federal Triangle, consisting of the Washington Monument, White House and Capitol building and their alignment with the three main stars of the constellation Virgo. On August 10, 1791, the three fixed stars Arcturus, Regulus and Spica rose at sunset, forming a celestial triangle, and the city's Federal Triangle was engineered to mirror the constellation's pattern. Why fixed stars? They appeared to be permanent, therefore suggesting stability and spiritual benevolence, desirable traits when constructing a powerful institutional setting. "A sunset leading to the rise of three stars is rare," Ovason writes, "And a city's alignment with it is unique."
Virgo Symbols in the Nation's Capital The designers' choice to link Virgo with the capital indicates that they may have had a mystical intention to establish balance between the masculine and feminine. Ovason cites the numerous images of a beautiful woman holding a sheaf of grain, the symbol for Virgo, appearing on the nation's architectural decorations. This woman, the virgin, is the only female character in the entire zodiac. Therefore, the most feminine archetypal energy offering healing, purity and wisdom is permanently linked with what appears to be a highly masculine world.
Virgo also appears with a cornucopia, symbolizing the fulfillment of time, prosperity and agriculture. This sign associates with traits of redemption and organization, desirable in a post-war society.
The signs Gemini and Virgo are associated with the planet of communication, Mercury. As the female Mercury (Virgo is considered a "feminine" sign in astrology, while Gemini is considered "masculine"), she represents analysis and critical thinking, qualities that the forward-looking planners knew would play an important role in the nation's future.
Virgo Prevalent in the Charts of Washington, D.C. Buildings
Astrological charts cast for the laying of important building marker stones involve Virgo in a significant way, and point to the sure knowledge of planetary movement. Jupiter was ascending in Virgo when the city's first marker stone was laid on April 15, 1791. On October 13, 1792, the marker stone for the White House was laid with the Moon ascending in Virgo. The Capitol was founded with Mercury conjunct the Sun in Virgo on September 18, 1793, and the cornerstone for the Washington Monument was laid when the Moon was in Virgo.
http://www.stariq.com/pagetemplate/article.asp?PageID=2943
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More info from the book
Two charts were shown for the cornerstone ceremonies, one for the White House and the other for the Federal city.
The two figures will not reveal much to those unacquainted with astrology, but there is no need to be perplexed by them. My purpose in reproducing these charts is to show the remarkable correspondence between them -- a correspondence which can be grasped even by the non-astrologer.
Let us consider the second chart first. In the arch of skies on the day the foundation stone for the White House was laid, there was a most interesting conjunction. Shortly before noon, the Moon had entered the same degree as the Dragon's Head (a node of the Moon). Both planet and node were in 23 degrees of Virgo. This close relationship is shown in the top of the central panel of the figure to the right:
[figure] means: Virgo in: Dragon's Head 22.48, Moon 23.56
Now, incredible as it may appear, 23 degrees of Virgo was precisely the same as that occupied by Jupiter on the day the federal city foundation stone was laid.
This fact is recorded in the tip of the central panel of the first figure:
[figure] means: Virgo in: Jupiter 22.38 retrograde
What the charts demonstrate is that a chart cast for 1791, and one for 1792, are related by a single degree, in Virgo. The chances of the correspondence being mere coincidence are so remote that we must assume that whoever was directing the planning of Washington, D.C. not only had a considerable knowledge oof astrology, but had a vested interest in emphasizing the role of the sign Virgo.
End.
Revelation 12, the birth of a nation...and...
Revelation 12
13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
14. Wings of a great eagle
August is the month of the sky spectacle of the millenniathe brightest Mars for perhaps 50,000 years. Mars is extraordinarily bright now, but as August moves on, we can see a 75% increase in brightness. Mars becomes even brighter than bright Jupiter.
Watch Mars all month, and see it brighten. At the beginning of the month, Mars will rise at 10 p.m., and reach its pinnacle at 3 a.m. By the end of August, the red planet will rise at nightfall, and reach its highest point at 12:30 a.m.very convenient viewing hours. Mars is now so bright, that when the sky is dark, we may be able to see faint shadows by its light. Mars is closest to earth on August 27, opposes Sun on August 28, and is closest to Sun on August 30. The rare juxtaposition of these events gives us our brilliant Mars.
Get your spectacular views in now. Earth pulls away from Mars just as quickly as it has pulled up to it. Although it will still be bright in September, during September it loses all the extra August light. It will continue to dim rapidly through autumn.
The great summer triangle is at its best. While you're noticing Mars, look for three bright stars in the form of a big triangle high in the sky. They are all flying high, associated with birds. Although they belong to three different constellations, together they make a landmark in the summer sky.
Vega is the bluest of these stars, and you can see it overhead after it gets dark. Vega travels exactly at the latitude of Washington DC and San Francisco, so it is more or less overhead for observers in the United States. Vega is part of Lyre, a small constellation which looks like the letter "V." Vega is an Arabian word for "swooping eagle."
Just to the east of Vega, also high in the sky, is Deneb, in the tail of the swan, Cygnus. We can see the bright stars of the swan's wings spread wide across the sky. The two stars of the swan's long neck lead out from the center body star, opposite from the tail. This constellation is sometimes called the Northern Cross.
Lower in the sky, towards the south, is Altair, who reminds me of a brilliant diamond. Altair is in the constellation Aquila, the eagle. Learn these three stars, and use the triangle for a landmark in the summer sky.
Saturn, and possibly Uranus, are also visible. Saturn is now an early morning planet, rising around 3 a.m. Note the morning of August 23. Look for the waning crescent moon hanging out near Saturn. The big winter constellations, such as Orion and Gemini, are rising then.
With binoculars, you may be able to see Uranus just above Mars. It looks like a faint green star. They float near each other for several weeks, coming closest at the end of September, when Mars turns direct.
The other visible planets are too close to the sun now for viewing.
http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/skywatch.shtml
The Witness of the Stars
E. W. Bullinger
1893
http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/default.htm
Lyra, The Harp
http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/chap14.htm The books are open!
Daniel 12:4
I'll get to work on Enoch, now where's that copy???
IMHO, that leaves only one other avenue for Spiritual authentication which is the Word Himself:
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:14
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. I Corinthians 2:11-16
It is quite troubling to me that the architects of D.C. would align the city to an astrological end. Intentional construction could be seen as an attempt to obscure Revelation prophesy. If it were constructed that way by happenstance, it would be more meaningful to me.
I had never read about Enoch before. I had been assuming, ever since you brought this to our attention, that the book was written in historical (classical Greek) times, by a writer claiming to have been an ancestor of Noah. If the author really pre-dated the Flood (which I didn't think you believed) then a very early copy of his text had to be on the ark in order to survive. Is there any reference to books on the ark? What would the original written language be?
Indeed, there is only one way Enoch could be authentic and that would be if it were originally written by Enoch who was the uncontested grandfather of Noah. The language of such writings in 3300 B.C. may be lost to us or may simply remain undiscovered. Perhaps we will find a Rosetta stone in Iraq.
The scholars always take the scientific materialism approach to ancient manuscripts. Which is to say that they do not consider prophesy real. Hence the statement in the above Meridian article:
Since we know that the Enochs at Qumran are copies, and they carbon-date as far back as 186 B.C. - and there exist no older copies from which to work --- the next logical step in further determining whether 1 Enoch could be authentic is to look at the text.
Most of Enoch is like Revelation, speaking in parables and metaphors of future events and supernatural worlds. But Enoch is unique in that it does have the book of astronomy which may allow us to surmise for our own satisfaction whether the author had knowledge which he could not have possessed even at 200 B.C. by any means other than Spiritual revelation.
For Lurkers:
In reading the book of astronomy, I noted several passages which indicated such knowledge and thus I am looking for any other possible explanation:
2. That the sun and the moon both orbit.
3. That the sun and the moon generate energy.
4. That the sun shines even when it is not seen.
5. That stars come into existence and die by becoming lightening (supernovae).
6. That the end (or beginning?) of all the heavens is a pit of no measure and no content. (singularity?)
Given the ferment of Greek philosophy, it's at least a possibility. But before Noah ... that's challenging. We need some early-dated manuscripts. At least I do before I could take this as a serious possibility.
You have been very helpful in this project finding links to track down possible sources for the observations in the book of astronomy. I do hope you continue to follow the research and let us know if a new lead pops into your mind.
That link doesn't work for me. Sumerian is a possibility for Noah's family, but we're awfully close to wildly guessing here. The Sumerians were the ones who pretty much invented astrology as we know it. And Abraham came from there (from Ur, the second city after Sumer in Mesopotamia). As you say, Enoch seems to be nothing like that school of thought. His astronomy (if it's an original part of the book) strikes me as Greek.
In my walk with the Lord, He has spoken to me in ways with magnify what is written in the Bible. I cannot describe the sensation of a thing ringing true to my Spirit. But I know it when it happens.
Sometimes it is provoked by a thought; sometimes a thing heard and sometimes a thing read. But however it comes, I take the ringing true to my Spirit quite seriously and with much gratitude. But of course I cannot say that anyone else ought have the same reaction to the same thing.
As an example, one of the ancient manuscripts in the Pseudepigrapha is a story about why Abraham left his father and followed the Lord. It rang true to my Spirit. The manuscript, however, would never qualify for a canon nor would I expect anyone else to receive the story as true. But it magnified the Bible and thus, satisfied me.
Indeed, Enoch's book on astronomy doesn't have the Sumerian characteristics at all. On the other hand, Abraham who came out of Ur was 12 generations after Enoch.
By the way, the only parts of Enoch's book on astronomy that I have found which are paralleled by ancient Greek philosophy are the reflection of the sun off the moon and orbits. The Greek orbit philosophy was a minority view until Ptolemy at 150 B.C. which would be too recent for Enoch, which was copied in 186 B.C.
I haven't found any source in ancient Greece, Babylon, Assyria, etc. for the other observations. And I am aggressively looking for one.
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