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To: Alamo-Girl
But, to know whether God is speaking in a particular instance, we have to compare what is being said to some sort of rule, i.e., "canon." That is why canonicity must be an issue when discussing the Book of Enoch, if we are considering it in terms of whether or not it is somehow "inspired" (which you seem to be doing).
60 posted on 08/28/2003 12:10:04 AM PDT by jam137 (see my FR homepage for CA Recall perspectives)
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To: jam137
The constitutional wall the founders did build was ...

to protect state and individual rights from a national govt - religion ---

that WALL has been breeched - demolished by liberals - EVOLUTIONIST !

"The real object of the [First] [A]mendment was not to countenance, much less to advance, Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects, and to prevent any ... national ecclesiastical establishment --- which should give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage * * of the national government. It thus cut off the means of religious persecution (the vice and pest of former ages), and of the subversion of the rights of conscience in matters of religion, which had been trampled upon almost from the days of the Apostles to the present age. . . ." (Footnotes omitted.)

Check out the link above !

Old wall constitutionalist ... keep govt out ---

new wall constitutionalist (( sharia )) --- keep God - truth - science out !

... * * ... guess who --- rag heads - liberals !

61 posted on 08/28/2003 12:34:25 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: jam137
Thank you so much for your post!

But, to know whether God is speaking in a particular instance, we have to compare what is being said to some sort of rule, i.e., "canon." That is why canonicity must be an issue when discussing the Book of Enoch, if we are considering it in terms of whether or not it is somehow "inspired" (which you seem to be doing).

I understand your concern and your point. The Bible is clear in Acts 17:10-11 that the noble approach is to keep an open mind but then check everything out with the Scriptures:

And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming [thither] went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. - Acts 17:10-11

But because Enoch lived about 3300 B.C. - if the book of Enoch is authentic - it would predate Moses, the Pentateuch.

IMHO, that leaves only one other avenue for Spiritual authentication which is the Word Himself:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. – John 1:1-2

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. – John 1:14

Of course, for the natural man, mentally discerning spirits is perilous; but those of us who have the indwelling of the Spirit and trust and follow Him, will be lead into the Truth:

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. – I Corinthians 2:11-16


65 posted on 08/28/2003 6:41:02 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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