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The Nightmares of Choice:The Psychological Effects of Performing Abortions
Touchstonemag.com ^ | Sept 2003 | Rachel M. MacNair

Posted on 08/31/2003 12:50:47 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS

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As a young doctor in the early 1970s, Paul E. Jarrett, Jr., did a number of legal abortions. He began having doubts, though, after the urea-induced abortion of a mental patient. The child, weighing two pounds, was born alive, and the mother screamed, "My baby's alive! My baby's alive!" Dr. Jarrett later said, "I often wondered what we did for her mental status. That baby lived several days."

But it was a 1974 operation that "changed my mind about abortion forever." While doing a suction abortion, Jarrett found that the suction curette was obstructed by a torn-off fetal leg. So he changed techniques and dismembered the child with a ring forceps:

And as I brought out the rib cage, I looked and I saw a tiny, beating heart. And when I found the head of the baby, I looked squarely in the face of another human being–a human being that I'd just killed. I turned to the scrub nurse and said, "I'm sorry." But I just knew that I couldn't be a part of abortion any more.

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The baby's little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his little feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the [surgical] scissors in the back of his head, and the baby's arms jerked out . . .

The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high-powered suction tube into the opening, and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby went completely limp. I was really completely unprepared for what I was seeing. I almost threw up as I watched Dr. Haskell doing these things. . . .

The woman wanted to see her baby, so they cleaned up the baby and put it in a blanket and handed it to her. She cried the whole time. She kept saying, "I am so sorry, please forgive me." I was crying, too. I couldn't take it.

Shafer later gave congressional testimony about her experience and appeared widely in the media speaking against partial-birth abortion. Seldom, one suspects, has a doctor been so sorry that he hired a temporary worker.

Shafer also saw Haskell do D&E abortions. He would "take three-month-old babies and dismember 'em-just tear 'em from limb to limb while the baby's heart was beating, yank off a leg, yank off an arm and just bring it outside . . . And that was horrible. I'd never seen it before. Never really wanted to think about it before." Mary Meehan -- The Ex-abortionists: Why they quit

 

...saline abortion is a solution of salt saline that is injected into the mothers womb. The baby then gulps the solution, it burns the baby inside and out and then the mother is to deliver a dead baby within 24 hours.

This happened to me! I remained in the solution for approximately 18 hours and was delivered ALIVE on April 6, 1977 at 6:00 am in a California abortion clinic. There were young women in the room who had already been given their injections and were waiting to deliver dead babies. When they saw me they experienced the horror of murder. A nurse called an ambulance, while the abortionist was not yet on duty, and had me transferred to the hospital. I weighed a mere two pounds. I was saved by the sheer power of Jesus Christ.

Ladies and gentleman I should be blind, burned.....I should be dead! And yet, I live! Due to a lack of oxygen supply during the abortion I live with cerebral palsy.

...Adolph Hitler once said: "The receptive ability of the great masses is only very limited, their understanding is small; on the other hand their forgetfulness is great. This being so, all effective propaganda should be limited to a very few points which in turn, should be used as slogans until the very last man is able to imagine what is meant by such words." Today's slogans are: "a woman's right to choose" and "freedom of choice," etcetera. Hearing on H.R. 4292, the "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2000", Testimony of Gianna Jessen

I am optimistic enough to believe that, one day, Stenberg v. Carhart will be assigned its rightful place in the history of this Court's jurisprudence beside Korematsu and Dred Scott. The method of killing a human child-one cannot even accurately say an entirely unborn human child-proscribed by this statute is so horrible that the most clinical description of it evokes a shudder of revulsion. And the Court must know (as most state legislatures banning this procedure have concluded) that demanding a "health exception"-which requires the abortionist to assure himself that, in his expert medical judgment, this method is, in the case at hand, marginally safer than others (how can one prove the contrary beyond a reasonable doubt?)-is to give live-birth abortion free rein. The notion that the Constitution of the United States, designed, among other things, "to establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, . . . and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity," prohibits the States from simply banning this visibly brutal means of eliminating our half-born posterity is quite simply absurd. STENBERG v. CARHART :Justice Scalia, dissenting.

To dehumanize Jews, Nazi leaders had to suppress facts and propagandize with a barrage of lies about the Jewish people. The dehumanization of unborn children did not occur in a vacuum. Between Two Holocausts

The disturbing concept that an unborn child feels pain while being destroyed has once again entered the public conscience in England, when a pro-choice fetal researcher suggested that anesthesia should be given to comfort the fetus from pain from abortions as early as 17 weeks gestation. The Emerging Reality of Fetal Pain in Late Abortion

Behaviorally speaking, there's little difference between a newborn baby and a 32-week-old fetus. A new wave of research suggests that the fetus can feel, dream, even enjoy "The Cat in the Hat."

As if overturning the common conception of infancy weren't enough, scientists are creating a startling new picture of intelligent life in the womb. Among the revelations:

By monitoring changes in fetal heart rate, psychologist Jean-Pierre Lecanuet, Ph.D., and his colleagues in Paris have found that fetuses can even tell strangers' voices apart. They also seem to like certain stories more than others. The fetal heartbeat will slow down when a familiar French fairy tale such as "La Poulette" ("The Chick") or "Le Petit Crapaud" ("The Little Toad"), is read near the mother's belly. When the same reader delivers another unfamiliar story, the fetal heartbeat stays steady. Fearfully and Wonderfully Made

Abortion Stops a Beating Heart

1 posted on 08/31/2003 12:50:48 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
bumped and bookmarked.
2 posted on 08/31/2003 12:54:56 PM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: cpforlife.org

How can we account for the practitioners’ problems, especially their dreams? It may be that this is how the human mind responds to killing, as has been suggested of other groups of people who kill.

Killology Research Group: Lieutenant Colonel Dave Grossman, ...

3 posted on 08/31/2003 12:56:21 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Thanks for posting this. Too many people live in denial over what this thing does to them, and what it does to our country.
4 posted on 08/31/2003 1:02:25 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: shaggy eel; Cyrano
PING!

I can't remember who all joined us on that *other* thread about the psychological effects of abortion, can you?
5 posted on 08/31/2003 1:03:20 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
I cant say I feel sorry for these killers of human life. It is the profession they chose, killing the unborn, I wish them all nightmares. Aborting a baby to save a mother is one thing aborting a baby because it is inconvenient another.
6 posted on 08/31/2003 1:04:02 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
The Psychological Effects of Performing Abortions

I don't doubt that the mental effects are awful. How could you do something like this for a living and like your job and feel that your doing something beneficial for society? If you do this and like your job, you're right up there with Reichsmarshall Goering.

7 posted on 08/31/2003 1:07:56 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Stop the violins!! Visualize whirled peas...)
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To: sgtbono2002

Aborting a baby to save a mother is one thing

PHysicians'Ad-hoc Coalition for Truth


8 posted on 08/31/2003 1:13:05 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
ping...
9 posted on 08/31/2003 1:15:35 PM PDT by BigBadBrian
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
All I can say is, they deserve it. The bleeding-heart liberals of the word can condemn me if they choose, but abortion IS murder, and these dreams are just God's way of sending people a reality check.
10 posted on 08/31/2003 1:16:29 PM PDT by 4mycountry (You say I'm a brat like it's a bad thing.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Well said. It is ingrained in us that self-defense is permitted, but murder is wrong. If a pregnancy threatens the survival/life of the mother, terminating the pregnancy should be her right, but even that ought not carry the notion of a 'right' to a dead baby as senators like Boxer and Harkin and Clinton speciously claim is the right of the woman.

Perhaps the democrat party should start a movement to serve their favored rite, abortion, in such a way as to prevent the spitirual death of the abortionists. They could recruti and train persons already proven to like serial killing, to man the abortuaries for the women seeking a serial killing. Alas, perhaps the democrats aren't as 'compassionate' as they claim. Besides, that does nothing to mollify the dmaged psyche or soul of the woman who went through with such a horrible act. But democrats and feminists are more than willing to sacrifice these damaged women in order to keep their bloody rite legal and easily obtained. Damn ghouls ...

11 posted on 08/31/2003 1:19:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
you're right up there with Reichsmarshall Goering.

HOLOCAUST - NATIONAL AMERICAN (ABORTION) HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL

12 posted on 08/31/2003 1:23:00 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
One more thing I have to add...

I think people who get abortions are out of their minds. I bet that if people would think "what if that were me in there and my mom was going to have me aborted" the abortion rate would drop drastically.

Why don't they just choose adoption? Why is it so dang hard to let a child live?? It makes no sense! We seem to live in a world where animals are of more importance than a human life....where the protection of trees takes dominance over the protection of an unborn baby.

Abortion is just one more way our society helps us convince ourselves that our actions aren't our fault. "Sleep around? Do things out-of-order? Get an abortion! They'll never know! It's not your fault, here's a quick-fix!" These bleeding heart liberals and planned parenthood people trumpet this like a national anthem. It's just sick. I hope these people have nightmares for the rest of their pathetic lives.

That's all I have to say...I need to go, I'm nearly crying. Thanks...

-4my
13 posted on 08/31/2003 1:24:25 PM PDT by 4mycountry (You say I'm a brat like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The Psychological Effects of voting in favor of those Performing Abortions, should qualify one to receive liberal doses electroconvulsive therapy.

14 posted on 08/31/2003 1:28:02 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: 4mycountry
All I can say is, they deserve it. The bleeding-heart liberals of the word can condemn me if they choose, but abortion IS murder, and these dreams are just God's way of sending people a reality check.

Amen. I can't say I have a lot of sympathy. Who or what is forcing them to continue working in the murder practice?

If they're staying because of the money--they're little more than paid serial killers. And now, I'm going to go kiss my beautiful five-month-old daughter, Hoagy, and thank God he blessed me with her.

Keep the faith.

15 posted on 08/31/2003 1:30:56 PM PDT by RepoGirl (Rotties rule)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Therefore, even those who become intellectually committed to abortion have to contend with their own unconscious view of a fetus as a real baby

I'm sure that some Germans who were intellectually commited to the Final Solution had to contend with their own unconscious view of Jews as humans. But they went to work at Auschwitz every day anyway.

Nightmares are the least of the worries that abortionists have if there is justice in this world and the next.

16 posted on 08/31/2003 1:35:27 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Master of the single entendre)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; Mr. Silverback
BUMP
17 posted on 08/31/2003 1:36:20 PM PDT by shaggy eel (not just any eel)
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To: 4mycountry
You wrote, "I think people who get abortions are out of their minds." Perhaps, but don't lose sight of the fact that they have been lied to for three plus deacdes regarding the individual human being in the womb. It is the stock and trade lie of the defenders of the indefensible that the victims are not human beings. Too many take that lie to heart if it serves the behavior to which they wish to engage.

I can make a good case for there being an individual human being in the womb or even in a petri dish prior to artificial implantation. Many scientists would heartily agree, and in fact the science of Embryology is based upon this truth. But there are too many who will deny this truth because it contradicts the excuse they give themselves for dehumanizing the prenatal all through the gestational age.

Soon, our antion will be embracing cannibalism in the name of enlightened application of biological sciences. There are already powerful Senators supporting, defending and championing the evil. No less than Nancy Reagan supports it and the AARP publishes her support for it. It doesn't change the truth that what they defend and push is cannibalism. But there will be euphemistic terms devised to hide the truth from the average clueless American, until the behavior is well established in the American system. Then, it will be too late to reverse the evil, just as it has been with abortion on demand and tens of thousands of alive, sentient, prenatal infants slaughtered each year as the natural extension of the evil in dehumanizing the prenatal class of fellow human beings. An entire political party defends and champions this evil, so how are clueless Americans to understand that what the party is defending so vigorously is in fact deep, pernicious evil?

18 posted on 08/31/2003 1:45:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: KarlInOhio

I'm sure that some Germans who were intellectually commited to the Final Solution had to contend with their own unconscious view of Jews as humans. But they went to work at Auschwitz every day anyway.

When Adolf Hitler came to power in Germany in 1933, he scornfully dismissed the Church and her pastors as an irrelevant force which posed no threat to the Nazi agenda for that great nation.

I promise you," he boasted to his inner circle, "that if I wish to, I could destroy the Church in just a few years. It is hollow, it is rotten and false through and through. One push, and the whole structure would collapse. We should trap the preachers," he said, " by their notorious greed and self-indulgence. We shall thus be able to settle everything with them in perfect peace and harmony. I shall give them a few years' reprieve. Why should we quarrel? They will swallow anything in order to keep their material advantage. The parsons will be made to dig their own graves; they will betray their God for us. They will betray anything for the sake of their miserable jobs and incomes."

The dictator's words proved to be tragically accurate. The great majority of Christians in Germany looked the other way and minded their own business. They kept their religion and their politics strictly separate from one another and refused to vote on the basis of single issues which would have set them apart from the rest of the electorate. They blended in and they went along and they followed the path of least resistance. They did that which was expedient and practical and safe, while their country was dragged down into a swirling maelstrom of barbarism and death. Only a few lonely voices were raised in protest. Dr. Laurence White Senior Pastor, Our Savior Lutheran Church ...

Nietzsche's point has even more force in our own society, wherein, with few exceptions, men and women live their lives as if there were no God and yet still carry on a profession of being religious. In Nietzsche's dramatic picture, there is something tragically absurd about the man who is shocked by someone else's atheism when it is impossible to discover any genuine religious faith in him. For the average American today, as for the average individual in Nietzsche's Germany, it simply makes no practical difference whether God exists or not. This is true in spite of those polls that show that 98 percent of Americans believe in God.  Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, and the Death of God

 

 

19 posted on 08/31/2003 1:46:12 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
And about their dreams, in which aborted fetuses stare at them with ancient eyes and perfectly shaped hands and feet asking, ‘Why? Why did you do this to me?’

Are they really dreams, or just glimpses at the eternity that faces each of them if they refuse to repent.

20 posted on 08/31/2003 1:46:33 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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