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McClintock Key to Democratic Victory in California
Intellectual Conservative.com ^ | 9/2/3 | Bob Chandra

Posted on 09/02/2003 4:21:28 PM PDT by socal_parrot

A Democratic plot to boost Tom McClintock’s candidacy at Arnold Schwarzenegger’s expense has recently come to light.

On paper, the recall election should be a cakewalk for California Republicans. A cursory analysis reveals a governor with an approval rating below Richard Nixon at his low point. The only serious Democrat candidate is the state’s uninspiring lieutenant governor, Cruz Bustamante, who unquestioningly followed Governor Davis through his mishaps with the budget and energy crisis. It should be a breeze for Republicans, right? Think again. Democrats are euphoric over Tom McClintock’s intransigence in continuing his long-shot bid for governor. This allows Democrats to divide and conquer their way into office. Democrats are attempting to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and Tom McClintock is an essential part of their game plan.

For starters, Democrats know McClintock cannot win. They know that he has ran for statewide office twice before and lost both times. McClintock’s problem is not so much that he’s unknown but that Californians know about him and have rejected his candidacy time and again. Knowing this, a Democrat plot to boost McClintock’s candidacy at Schwarzenegger’s expense has already surfaced. According to the Sacramento Bee’s Daniel Weintraub, “Ever since Cruz Bustamante entered the race, it's been assumed that California's Indian tribes were going to pool their money and do independent expenditures on his behalf, expensive ads that get around the $21,000 limit on contributions. Now I am hearing rumblings that the Indians might think about helping Cruz in a more creative way as well. If they spent, say, $4 million on behalf of state Sen. Tom McClintock, the most conservative Republican in the race, they might pump McClintock's numbers up while hurting Arnold and not harming Cruz a bit. Remember, Cruz needs a split GOP vote to win. That would be one way to get it.” The reliably Democratic Indian tribes, loyal to Bustamante, would essentially throw their weight behind McClintock to chip away at the support of Arnold Schwarzenegger, the GOP front-runner. The Democrat strategy with regard to Tom McClintock is: “If you know you can beat ‘em, join ‘em.”

McClintock is unfazed by this conniving scheme and is more than happy to play along. His actions suggest that he’s willing to make allies with loyal Democratic groups under the logic, the enemy of my enemy (Arnold Schwarzenegger) is my friend. On August 28th, McClintock and Bustamante went together before the California Nations Indian Gaming Association to pledge their support. Needless to say, money will follow. Whether McClintock knows it or not, he’s being used by the Left. If Democrat allies can keep McClintock in the game, they can put a cap on Arnold’s support. A recent Los Angeles Times poll shows Bustamante with 35% of the vote and McClintock with 12%. The poll indicates that McClintock will lose decisively but more importantly, his vote will ensure that GOP front-runner Schwarzenegger loses as well.

It doesn’t have to be this way. McClintock could see the light and do what’s best for the party – as Bill Simon did by bowing out of the race. Other than his new Democratic support, the picture continues to grow bleaker for McClintock. The Washington Post and Sacramento Bee are reporting that there will be a record turnout for the recall election. This invalidates the early calculus by McClintock supporters - that in a low turnout election, grassroots could carry the day. Further, the base is growing more familiar with Schwarzenegger’s conservatism – Arnold came out against partial-birth abortion, against gay marriage, and for a constitutional spending cap.

There comes a time when personal ambition must be set aside and self-affirming but false justifications for one’s candidacy need to be reexamined. If McClintock stays in the California Senate, and assuming Arnold wins the governorship, he and Arnold could play the good-cop/bad-cop routine to perfection, mirroring President Bush and Tom Delay’s efforts at the national level. Additionally, McClintock may be well positioned to challenge Barbara Boxer in next year’s US Senate race. However, if McClintock persists with his spoiler campaign and throws the election to Bustamante, it is doubtful he will have any political capital for a future race.

But assuming things stay the way they are, with McClintock’s help, Bustamante and the Democrats may well pull off an upset of a lifetime on Election Day.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; cruz; dupes; mcclintites; mcjeffords; plot; rats; recall; stooges; tom
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To: jmstein7
Hi. Here ya go:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/973836/posts?page=207#207
Hope that helps. ;-)
281 posted on 09/02/2003 6:21:52 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
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To: habs4ever
Tom McClintock thinks that he's a Detroit Tiger. He's already lost two state-wide races, but hey... Three's a charm!!!

Tom's motto...IF YOU ARE GONNA LOSE... LOSE BIG!
282 posted on 09/02/2003 6:21:56 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I cannot support a lipless cross eyed career politician who can't fill out paperwork correctly.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
What a pathetic and convoluted rebuttal.

You're ripe for the pickens. LOL

283 posted on 09/02/2003 6:22:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Stand by your McNader and his help to assist Busta then!
284 posted on 09/02/2003 6:22:27 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jmstein7
"The bottom line is -- TMC or AS -- we want to evict the Democrats from the Governor's mansion. That was the whole point of the recall. "

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Exactly.

As State Assemblyman Haynes said it accurately:


"LOS ANGELES, Aug. 31 — State Assemblyman Ray Haynes is one of the most conservative members of the California legislature, but when he looks at the stakes involved in next month’s recall election here, the choice is clear. He’s for a Republican who can win.

“I’ll be real blunt,” Haynes said in an interview. “I was involved in the recall with Tom McClintock from the beginning, but I didn’t get involved in this to hand the governorship over to [Democratic Lt. Gov.] Cruz Bustamante. That’s something I need to be cognizant of and other conservatives need to be cognizant of.”

FOR GOP, A CRITICAL CHANCE

Adversity breeds such pragmatism. Republicans see the recall election as a critical opportunity to begin the rebuilding process after a series of devastating elections that shut them out of power in the state. Democrats control the governor’s office, the state Assembly and Senate and every statewide constitutional office.

State Senate Republican leader Jim Brulte reiterated this weekend his willingness to help talk second-tier GOP candidates out of the race. “California will be no better off if Gray Davis is recalled and Republican candidates finish two, three and four,” Brulte said.


Haynes might be part of that effort. “I’m at the point,” he said, “of saying to McClintock, ‘Show you can bring the resources to the table to win, or get out of the way.’ ”


From article: Calif. GOP divided over recall race (Why McClintock supporter supports Arnold)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/974057/posts
285 posted on 09/02/2003 6:22:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: TheAngryClam
You get paid to give political advice? No wonder the CaliforniaGOP is in the toilet. Ever advise a winning candidacy?
286 posted on 09/02/2003 6:22:46 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("Hee Haw" was only supposed to be a TV show, not a political movement)
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To: KellyAdmirer
You do understand the basic rules of the election, no? There will be 2 questions: "Do you support the recall?" Right now the polls are saying 50% Yes to 45% No. The next question is: "Pick your replacement." The winner is the one who gets the most votes. It is likely it will not be a majority decision, but a plurality.

Please help me understand your point in saying that two major GOP candidates running for one office does not matter.

287 posted on 09/02/2003 6:23:00 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad; onyx; PhiKapMom
You'll love Freeper "tame"'s performance on the Michael Medved show today. The replay of his call will be webcast on KRLA 870 at 6:40 pm PST. Just hit the "Today's show" button under Medved's picture. It'll be on again at 9:40, 12:40 etc. as the three hour show loops until showtime tomorrow.

You'll love hearing one of the McClintock unappeasables in voice. LMAO!

288 posted on 09/02/2003 6:25:29 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: alwaysconservative
I don't wonder about the ones on this thread. They don't seem bright enough to be able to grasp the concept you and I have worked under...

Sometimes it's easier to make your oponent lose than help your candidate win.

I also went onto Professional Wrestling boards (Please excuse me...It's a wicked vice, I know) to tell them of Lieberman's participation in the RTC (Or whatever it was). They were against violence in wrestling. I said they needed to support Bush/Cheney if they wanted to keep their Rasslin' voilent!

I'd like to think that maybe I swung just one vote in Florida. One of the 532!!
289 posted on 09/02/2003 6:25:49 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: Reagan Man
While you are quoting FR poll, you didn't quote the most relevant one, that as many people support Arnold, as McClintock. Which proves either that half of the conservatives are sensible, or that half of the people on FR are Dem shills.

Who do you support for Governor of California now that Bill Simon has dropped out?

McClintock - 47%

Schwarzenegger - 46%

Other - 2%

Undecided - 3%

290 posted on 09/02/2003 6:26:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: redlipstick
"AS has sworn to veto this as well as TM - it seems only sensible to vote for the one most likely to win."

As much as I would hope this is truth, the TM supporters have become more and more cult like within recent days. I never thought that I'd see so many conservatives act so unreasonable about such a common sense decision.

291 posted on 09/02/2003 6:27:10 PM PDT by Tempest (If you lay off of Arnold, I'll lay off of Tom. Bustamante is the real danger.)
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To: ArneFufkin
Holy Litterbox, Batman! Thanks for the heads up. ;-)
292 posted on 09/02/2003 6:28:07 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
LOL!

I love the simple insults...

"Dorks".

LOL!!
293 posted on 09/02/2003 6:29:15 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: section9
"This is a carbon copy of the plan that gave us Bill Simon, the Candidate From Hell. It is exquisite. Indeed, the hand of Bubba may be lurking here."

For political skills, the dems sure have it over the CA GOP, don't they?

First, the dems have a single candidate from the start. Secondly, they redeploy the very same tactic which worked for them, just the last time around.

On the other hand, the CA GOP is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.

And is there any wonder the CA GOP is widely known as "The Stupid Party?"

Since the McClintock forces claim true ownership of California conservatism and the Republican party, do they deserve the label by extension?
294 posted on 09/02/2003 6:29:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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MechaClintock better cut a deal before he takes the party down like Simon and loses his future at age 47
295 posted on 09/02/2003 6:30:12 PM PDT by dwills
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To: jmstein7
On policy agenda issues, on social and fiscal issues, McClintock is just like Ronald Reagan. McClintock doesn't have the public communications skills and talents that The Gipper had, but nobody does.

You're California dreaming, if you think Arnold is anything like Reagan. Oh yeah, that's right. They were both actors. BFD!

296 posted on 09/02/2003 6:30:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: montag813
NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE APOLOGY FROM ARNOLD'S FANS:

All day Saturday, I watch a thread that stated that California GOP Assemblyman Ray Haynes had endorsed Arnold Schwarzenegger for Governor. It was eroneously based on a Washington Post story. IT'S TIME -- NOW -- FOR ARNOLD'S FANS AND FANATICS TO START GETTING AT LEAST SOME OF THEIR FACTS RIGHT.

I am a California radio talk show, former newspaper reporter, and McClintock supporter -- AND THINK IT IS CRITICAL TO GET FACTS RIGHT. I am perturbed at the wrong and false information being posted on this website by Arnold fans, who can't get their facts right.

I CALLED ASSEMBLYMAN HAYNES' OFFICE IN SACRAMENTO TODAY TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT AT HIS APPARENT SUPPORT FOR MR. SCHWARZENEGGER. Well, there is no support for Arnold from Assemblyman Haynes. Ray Haynes HAS NOT ENDORSED ARNOLD FOR GOVERNOR -- SO YOUR ENTIRE LAUGHFUL THREAD ON SATURDAY WAS WRONG. If I seem disgruntled, there is a reason: Your information was wrong, wrong, wrong. I have a call into Assemblyman Haynes and expect a possible call tonight after he comes off the floor -- and I'm going to explain to him what some of Mr. Schwarzenegger's supporters are doing on this website.

NOW maybe someone can provide me with some information about the Bob Chandra/Schwarzenegger propaganda piece against the man who got our car tax reduced by 66%.
Who is Bob Chandra? I have never heard of him in the least in California politics. I would love to have a way to help him get this facts straightened out, too. IS THERE ANYONE ON THIS WEBSITE WHO IS SO BLIND THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THE MEDIA MANIPULATION OF THE LA TIMES POLL SHOWING CRUZ WITH 35%. GET REAL FOLKS. Some 30% percent of Dems are polling support for the recall -- do you really think they're GOING TO BACK CRUZ? Mr. Chandra needs to work on his logic.

I suppose the Arnold fans have forgotten the Aug. 14 Sacramento Bee piece from a Democrat stating: "But the truth is that Arnold Schwarzenegger has an arguably historic chance to transform the Republican Party and thereby shift America's political center of gravity in ways that would PARADOXICALLY BE GOOD FOR DEMOCRATIC (PARTY) GOALS AND GREAT FOR THE COUNTRY. THINK FOLKS, THINK.










297 posted on 09/02/2003 6:31:28 PM PDT by sruleoflaw
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To: Tempest; hchutch; Chancellor Palpatine
I've told friends to avoid walking past tall buildings October 8th if McClintock doesn't win. Members of the McClintock Kool-Aid Kult will be throwing themselves off of them...
298 posted on 09/02/2003 6:31:34 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
"Sometimes it's easier to make your oponent lose than help your candidate win. "

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BINGO. You just summed up the Davis/Bustamante/Dem strategy.

How do you think Davis won his previous elections?
299 posted on 09/02/2003 6:31:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Reagan Man
HERE IS OUR NEW MESSAGE:

ARNOLD IS LIKE CLINTON (LYING ABOUT SEX AND ISSUES) AND CAN'T WIN.

ARNOLD CANNOT WIN.

ARNOLD CANNOT WIN.
300 posted on 09/02/2003 6:33:06 PM PDT by sruleoflaw
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