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Gore Ogles Cable in Vivendi Stable as His Media Buy (Impact of Vivendi-NBC merger?)
NY Observer ^ | September 3, 2003 | Joe Hagan

Posted on 09/02/2003 10:00:48 PM PDT by RatherBiased.com

Gore Ogles Cable in Vivendi Stable as His Media Buy

by Joe Hagan

Will the proposed merger of NBC and Vivendi Universal Entertainment, announced on Tuesday, Sept. 2, benefit the political-counterprogramming media dream of Al Gore?

The Observer has learned that the former Vice President and his business partner, the entrepreneur and former Democratic fund-raiser Joel Hyatt—who both have been quietly sussing out the creation of a cable-TV network for the last year—called a meeting with executives of Universal Television Group early this summer to discuss buying Newsworld International, a tiny cable news channel owned by Universal.

Sources familiar with the situation said the property might be up for grabs now that French-owned Vivendi Universal has embarked on a deal with NBC to merge its Universal Television Group properties. A source who spoke with The Observer on the condition of anonymity said another buyer or partner was also vying for the property.

NWI is part of the proposed NBC–Vivendi Universal Entertainment merger deal, said a spokesperson for Vivendi Universal.

According to sources familiar with the situation, Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt met with Universal Television chairman Michael Jackson, president of network enterprises Patrick Vien and Vivendi Universal’s chief operating officer, Jean-Bernard Levy. Both Mr. Jackson and Mr. Vien declined to comment on the meeting. Reached for comment, Mr. Hyatt would neither confirm nor deny interest in NWI, but he did criticize the media for not waiting until he had an announcement to make.

It was unclear how the venture would be financed, but in June the media investor and politically active fund-raiser Steve Rattner, head of the Quadrangle Group in New York, was reported to be working with the group in lining up capital.

Until now, NWI has been a snoozy little digital channel that exists in about 20 million homes, pumping out "foreign newscasts originally broadcast in countries such as Germany, Japan, Canada and the European Community"—most of them from CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Company.

Theoretically, Mr. Gore and Co. could gut the channel for its bandwidth and reformat it for their own purposes. Interestingly, a source familiar with the situation said that Barry Diller, who sold the property to Universal, originally planned to transform NWI into something else himself—a hipper, edgier news channel that could be an non-ideological answer to Fox News. The plan never got off the ground, according to a source.

NWI was originally bundled with a small group of Canadian properties—among them, the arts network Trio—and acquired by Mr. Diller’s USA Networks in 1999 from a group of investors lead by Mr. Vien. Mr. Diller sold his USA cable properties—including namesake USA Network and the Sci-Fi Channel—to Universal in December 2001 for $10 billion.

It’s possible that NWI is one of many prospective deals that the Gore-Hyatt team is looking at. Another possibility: Vivendi could get the green light to sell NWI to Mr. Gore as part of a potential deal with NBC, which until now has not tendered any cash with its partnership offer.

Tonight, find out what’s shaking in the Pacific: Newsworld International presents News from Japan. If Al Gore owned it, would there be footage of former President George H.W. Bush’s 1991 upchuck visit? [NWI, 103, 8:30 p.m.]


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gore; liberalnews
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1 posted on 09/02/2003 10:00:49 PM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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To: RatherBiased.com
"The plan never got off the ground, according to a source."

HA!
2 posted on 09/02/2003 10:05:53 PM PDT by TheCookMan (Communism thrives when good people do nothing.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
I love the idea of Gore commenting on his failed attempt to get a "liberal" voice on cable in a year or so....
3 posted on 09/03/2003 5:17:36 AM PDT by smith288 ("The key to our success will be your execution." -Scott Adams)
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To: RatherBiased.com
While flipping channels yesterday evening, I caught Al Franken on Court TV's Catherine Cryer (sp) Live show. Although he spoke in sentence fragments and came across as an absolute idiot, I did catch one coherent statement. He was asked about future plans of becoming the voice of liberals. He said yes he was working on a potential radio show and stated Al Gore was handling the television end of it.
4 posted on 09/03/2003 5:24:01 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: RatherBiased.com
Are they suicidal?

A TV network comprised of the Liberals and the French?

I fearlessly predict bankruptcy in 6 months - and that includes re-runs (like Gary Hart, I mean).
5 posted on 09/03/2003 6:15:59 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Quilla
BWAAAHAAAAHAAAA! I can just see it now: Al Gore beginning his show, taking off his sweater and putting on his sneakers, and speaking to the audience as though they were rather slow three year olds!! Just like he did in the debates and the political speeches in 2000!! I wonder if he will use that bright orange face makeup like he did in the second or third debate? He looked like a damn pumpkin!!!

Al Gore and Al Franken: dumber and dumbest!

6 posted on 09/03/2003 6:21:11 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Grampa Dave
...French-owned Vivendi Universal...

Frog alert. Looks like it's stillborn but should be watched. The French and the Dims would love to have aa outright propaganda outlet in the states.
7 posted on 09/03/2003 6:39:01 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: SpinyNorman
Children,

can you say "empty suit?"

8 posted on 09/03/2003 6:58:34 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: RatherBiased.com
False alarm. The essence of any successful cable program is getting LOCAL cable operators to give you a channel on the local cable. The competition is intense. Local systems have 20 to 250 AVAILABLE channels. There are 2000+ cable cannels trying to get on them.

To be successful, a national cable channel must be avaialble at 20+ homes. Gore might get 2-4 million avails, tops. For Gore, 4 million avails might mean 20,000 samplers, 5,000 regular viewers, with many of them in "non-desirable" demographics. Business-wise, a death ship

Idea sunk before it started.
9 posted on 09/03/2003 7:09:15 AM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper station.........)
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To: MindBender26
....must be available to 20+ MILLION homes......

Shoot the cpoy checker
10 posted on 09/03/2003 7:10:55 AM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper station.........)
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To: RatherBiased.com
non-ideological answer to Fox News

Huh? How do you answer what you consider to be an idealogical network with a non-idealogical one?

11 posted on 09/03/2003 7:12:29 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (The joy of the Lord is my strength.)
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To: TexasNative2000
If either a liberal TV or Talk Radio station were deemed profitable, wouldn't it make sense that they would already be on the air?
12 posted on 09/03/2003 8:21:48 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: MindBender26
"False alarm. The essence of any successful cable program is getting LOCAL cable operators to give you a channel on the local cable. The competition is intense. Local systems have 20 to 250 AVAILABLE channels. There are 2000+ cable cannels trying to get on them."

Same with satellite. I don't see DirecTv or Dish making the bandwidth available for such a channel. There simply isn't any evident demand for it, and bandwidth costs $$.

Michael

13 posted on 09/03/2003 8:43:42 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: George W. Bush
I fully expect AOL/Time Warner to sell CNN to some Frogs if AOL viewers in America continue to fall.

Then, CNN can be even more anti America/Americans and GW with the Frogs and Euro trash as their main viewers and audiences.
14 posted on 09/03/2003 8:59:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (May our brave warriors kill all of the Islamokazis/facists/nazis to prevent future 9/11's.)
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To: Wright is right!
Exactly. If you are CNN, FNC, A&E, Discovery, History Channel etc., cable operators pay you to run your programming.

Everyone else pays (big money) for bandwidth.

I'm waiting for the 24/365 Cops Channel. "All real police action, all the time."

We could call it "Crime Time"

PS, Have you seen the show where they add false English dialogue to video of Japaneese people doing stupid, dangerous game show stunts? It's hilarious!
15 posted on 09/03/2003 9:02:13 AM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper station.........)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Al Franken, Al Gore, Al Quaeda - six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other.
16 posted on 09/03/2003 9:15:37 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (More Americans 18-49 Watch The Cartoon Network than CNN!!!)
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To: RatherBiased.com; TheCookMan; smith288; Quilla; Redbob; SpinyNorman; George W. Bush; ...
This is a bloody hilarious concept, but the author is blowing out of all proportion a meaningless meeting that took place many months ago, long before the NBC merger deal came along. There's no way in hell NWI will be turned into GoreTV, for two main reasons:

1) Half the point of the proposed NBC-Universal merger is that NBC needs more leverage with cable companies, so that they can force local cablecos to carry all their channels, and carry them via contracts that are more profitable for NBC. ("Oh, you won't carry Bravo? Okay, fine, in that case we're yanking CNBC, MSNBC, USA...") The more channels they have, the more muscle they have with the cablecos. So why sell off NWI? Especially when it could so easily be adapted to fit into the NBC News family (as some sort of extension to MSNBC, CNBC or both)? It doesn't make sense.

2) People tend to severely underestimate the amount of money it takes to launch a real news channel these days. CNN was launched on a shoestring, but cable barely existed in 1980, and even then CNN literally came within days of closing down more than once in its first two or three years. By 1996, when Fox and MSNBC came along, it was a whole different world. The only reason MSNBC was able to launch was because they cannibalized an already-existing channel (remember America's Talking?) and were able to split the costs between to giant corporations: GE and Microsoft. And there are many who believe that to this day, the only reason MSNBC "makes money" is because accounting tricks allow GE to use it to amortize the overall costs of running NBC News in general and because Microsoft can lump its share of the costs into "the price of runing MSN.com."

There's no question Fox News makes real money, but again, the amount of money Murdoch (via his own giant megaconglomerate) had to invest was gigantic, especially since he had to buy off cablecos all over the country with ten-year contracts paying THEM to carry FNC, because digital cable didn't really exist back then and it was the only way he could get access to channel slots at all.

NWI, on the other hand, carries essentially ZERO original programming, and suffers from being way out on the digital tier, when it's available at all. (Believe it or not, it really does matter that CNN, Fox and MSNBC are on analog channels - in Manhattan, they're on Channels 10, 46 and 43, respectively - while NWI is up on Channel 103. Viewers spend most of their time flipping around on the "regular" channels below channel 80, and only bounce up to the digital channels when they can't find anything they want to watch on the lower channels.) Even if Gore's little band of lunatics was able to grab the channel, where would they get the money to do anything with it? Look at how much trouble they're having launching their "radio network," and that is NOTHING compared to the logistics and costs of launching a cable TV channel. All you need for a radio network is a single radio studio (and heck, you can RENT that), one or two shows to start out with that probably wouldn't need more than five or six staffers each, and a satellite transponder; from there it's just a matter of convincing enough stations to carry enough individual shows to somehow eke out a profit. To run a TV news channel, however, you need to produce at LEAST 18 hours a day of original, mostly live, programming, which requires millions upon millions of dollars' worth of equipment, an entire building devoted to the purpose, hundreds and hundreds of employees ... where are they going to get that kind of money? And keep on getting it for the four to five years MINIMUM it would take before the channel started turning a profit, even if their business plan worked PERFECTLY?

The obvious answer: They can't, and they aren't. At best, they could turn it into an all-liberal version of what the old America's Talking was - talk radio on TV, produced so cheaply it was embarrassing to watch ... and not many people did. And that was even though America's Talking was not a digital tier channel; it was right there next to ESPN and The History Channel and everything else. MindBender26 appears to have missed the line in the article that mentioned NWI already reaches 20 million homes, but I think the rest of his numbers are about right. GoreTV might get 5,000 to 10,000 viewers in prime time, almost all of whom would be people with little money (hell, most would be virulently anti-capitalist anyway) to which no company would have any desire to advertise. GoreTV would not be able to survive with those numbers, even it was a bare-bones, all-talk network.

17 posted on 09/03/2003 9:27:31 AM PDT by Timesink
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"Have you seen the show where they add false English dialogue to video of Japaneese people doing stupid, dangerous game show stunts? It's hilarious!"

No, what channel is it on? Iron Chef is a little like that, only in a giant kitchen theater. "Today featuled ingledient - lock robster!" Chichisan.

Michael

18 posted on 09/03/2003 9:58:16 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Timesink
Don'tcha see? They don't have to ACTUALLY PUT the network on - all they have to do is PROMISE to do so. Just like X-42(i). He promised everything. And, as G Stepphie said, "He's kept all the promises he intended to keep."

That's the way these guys think. They rely on the sheeple's inattention to reality.

Michael

19 posted on 09/03/2003 10:01:02 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Timesink
I'm not saying they reach 20 million. Far from it! They would need to reach 20 million for GoreTV to even have a chance, even if he was giving away free money!

If they reach 4 million homes now, I'd be surprized.

Gore TV might get 20,000 samplers a week, but no more than 5,000 loyals.

Do the numbers. If he had great commercials, for great and needed products, he might get a .05% purchase hits per item per spot (that's 25 sales of soap powder or whatever) and a max of 2% total purchase hits in the week. That's a total of 200 sales, TOTAL, of anything, all products and services, all week!

Plus, his demos (demographics) would stink!

Limbaugh, Bortz or Hanity cam break wind on the air and sell 5000 cases of gold plated toilet paper!!! What's Gore going to advertise? Al Franken's book? 19 Grain Soy Bread, Vacations to Cuba and Somolia?

Gore = Bore. Period. Idea was DOA
20 posted on 09/03/2003 10:01:22 AM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper station.........)
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