Posted on 09/04/2003 12:33:02 AM PDT by adamyoshida
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Amnesty for Illegals is the longed-for stepping stone of the Aztlan seperatists.
Cruz "La Raza" Bustamante is a traitor, yes. We've come to accept that from Democrats.
How are Republicans who also support Amnesty any better?
How can any good Republican justify a vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger, who told Sean Hannity last week that he believed that "undocumented immigrants" should be legalized?
Said Proposition 187, the 1994 measure that denied many services to illegal immigrants, was "history" because it has been largely voided by the courts. He supported the proposition at the time voters approved it. "Now we have to move forward with the whole thing and to look at it, what we're going to do with all the people that are undocumented immigrants here in this state. What should we do? Should we have them to stay here, which I think is the right way to do, but how do you then include them in our society, how do you make it official, how do you make it legal?" he said. He added he would try to team up with other states with large immigrant populations and lobby the federal government to address the issue.
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There it is, straight from the RNC's cowardly talking-points:
A vote for Arnold is a vote for Amnesty for Illegals.
Professor Predicts 'Hispanic Homeland'
By The Associated Press
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. A University of New Mexico Chicano Studies professor predicts a new, sovereign Hispanic nation within the century, taking in the Southwest and several northern states of Mexico.
Charles Truxillo suggests the Republica del Norte, the Republic of the North, is an inevitability.
He envisions it encompassing all of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and southern Colorado, plus the northern tier of Mexican states: Baja California, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo León and Tamaulipas.
Along both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border there is a growing fusion, a reviving of connections, Truxillo said. Southwest Chicanos and Norteño Mexicanos are becoming one people again.
Truxillo, 47, has said the new country should be brought into being by any means necessary, but recently said it was unlikely to be formed by civil war. Instead, its creation will be accomplished by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region, he said.
Other UNM professors were skeptical
Felipe Gonzáles, director of UNM's Southwest Hispanic Research Institute, said there's a certain homeland undercurrent among New Mexico Hispanics who believe land was stolen and promises broken. But, he said, a new nation would need much more widespread support.
Educated elites are going to have to pick up on this idea and run with it and use it as a point of confrontation if it is to succeed, Gonzáles said.
Truxillo contends states have the right to secede under the Articles of Confederation of 1777, in which states retained sovereignty, freedom and independence. He contends the Articles were not superseded in that regard by the U.S. Constitution and that although the Civil War settled the question militarily, it was never resolved by courts.
History Professor Daniel Feller disagreed
The Constitution does supersede the Articles of Confederation, Feller said. It takes no notice of the articles and is not presented as bearing any relation to them. The Constitution does not declare, recognize or in any way acknowledge the right to secede.
And, he noted, the full title was Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union.
The U.S. Supreme Court said in 1869 the union was indestructible, political science Professor Joseph Stewart said.
He also said he was somewhat skeptical in the sense of minority politics about a possible Republic of the North. He said Americans of Mexican descent have moved all over the United States and that I don't see that Hispanic population becoming more distinct but in fact becoming less distinct.
Juan José Peña, Hispanic activist and vice chairman of the Hispanic Roundtable, said there's not enough political consciousness among Mexican Americans to form a separate nation.
Right now, there's no movement capable of undertaking it, he said.
Truxillo, who teaches at UNM's Chicano Studies Program on a yearly contract, believes it's his job to help develop a cadre of intellectuals to think about how it can become a reality.
Native-born American Hispanics feel like strangers in their own land, he said
We remain subordinated, he said. We have a negative image of our own culture, created by the media. Self-loathing is a terrible form of oppression. The long history of oppression and subordination has to end.
Truxillo said Hispanics who have achieved positions of power or otherwise are enjoying the benefits of assimilation are most likely to oppose a new nation.
There will be the negative reaction, the tortured response of someone who thinks, 'Give me a break. I just want to go to Wal-Mart.' But the idea will seep into their consciousness, and cause an internal crisis, a pain of conscience, an internal dialogue as they ask themselves: 'Who am I in this system?'
© 2000 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
I'll become the very thing I fight against.
Most will probably be gone or heavily modified within a few weeks, but since the very foundation if MEChA is creating a new "bronze" Aztlan nation distinguished by Chicano separatism and superiority, I'm guessing most of the web material will simply vanish until new dogma can be agreed upon.
While driving the extremist elements underground has issues of its own, hopefully this process will move MEChA and its fellow travelers into a more rational plane of thought, as MEChA adopts a less radical agenda and plan of action. Who knows, if it drops the racism, it may even become a more popular organization.
We will see.
We'll just give them free drivers licences, with which they can get all the benefits they want, register to vote and otherwise act like genuine American citizens. Then, maybe they'll be nice to us and not take our money or annex our lands. Oh, and they'll vote for the correct politicians, too!
It's a win/win!!
It scared me to death to talk to him because of the verbal venom I was hearing from him. He actually told me he hated whites and hated me. He would never stand for a color-blind society because people of color are superior and whites were evil he could see into our souls. It was absolutely chilling.
Back then I knew nothing of the group METcha or LaRaza but I suspect he was part of that if Bustamante was a member in the 70's. If Cruz continues to not back down from backing METCha, then I have to assume he is as racist as Andre Montoya was ... and we have very big problems. It is frightening. There is no place in this state for CLANS whether it be METCha or KKK or Nazis ... one is just as hateful as the other.
The poverty pimps who make their living by demanding handouts have zero interest in actually eliminating poverty, because they'd lose their base of power and income. Bustamante has no interest in being the governor of a Mexican state. It's much more powerful to be the governor of an American state.
But to the extent that giving lip service to idea gets him votes, he'll do that. It's all about politics.
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