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White House Approved Departure of Saudis After Sept. 11, Ex-Aide Says
New York Times ^ | September 4, 2003 | By ERIC LICHTBLAU

Posted on 09/04/2003 12:01:08 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3 — Top White House officials personally approved the evacuation of dozens of influential Saudis, including relatives of Osama bin Laden, from the United States in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks when most flights were still grounded, a former White House adviser said today.

The adviser, Richard Clarke, who ran the White House crisis team after the attacks but has since left the Bush administration, said he agreed to the extraordinary plan because the Federal Bureau of Investigation assured him that the departing Saudis were not linked to terrorism. The White House feared that the Saudis could face "retribution" for the hijackings if they remained in the United States, Mr. Clarke said.

The fact that relatives of Mr. bin Laden and other Saudis had been rushed out of the country became public soon after the Sept. 11 attacks. But questions have lingered about the circumstances of their departure, and Mr. Clarke's statements provided the first acknowledgment that the White House had any direct involvement in the plan and that senior administration officials personally signed off on it.

Mr. Clarke first made his remarks about the plan in an article in Vanity Fair due out Thursday, and he expanded on those remarks today in an interview and in Congressional testimony. The White House said today that it had no comment on Mr. Clarke's statements.

The disclosure came just weeks after the classified part of a Congressional report on the Sept. 11 attacks suggested that Saudi Arabia had financial links to the hijackers, and Mr. Clarke's comments are likely to fuel accusations that the United States has gone soft on the Saudis because of diplomatic concerns.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, seized on Mr. Clarke's comments to call on the White House to conduct an investigation into the hasty departures of about 140 Saudis from the United States in the days after the attacks.

Mr. Schumer said in an interview that he suspected that some of the Saudis who were allowed to leave, particularly two relatives of Mr. bin Laden who he said had links to terrorist groups themselves, could have shed light on the events of Sept. 11.

"This is just another example of our country coddling the Saudis and giving them special privileges that others would never get," Mr. Schumer said. "It's almost as if we didn't want to find out what links existed."

Saudi officials could not be reached for comment today, but in the past they have denied accusations linking them to the 19 hijackers, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia.

While F.B.I. officials would not discuss details of the case, they said that in the days immediately after Sept. 11 bureau agents interviewed the adult relatives of Mr. bin Laden, members of one of Saudi Arabia's richest families, before the White House cleared them to leave the country. Mr. bin Laden is said to be estranged from his family, and many of his relatives have renounced his campaign against the United States.

"We did everything that needed to be done," said John Iannarelli, a bureau spokesman. "There's nothing to indicate that any of these people had any information that could have assisted us, and no one was accorded any additional courtesies that wouldn't have been accorded anyone else."

But the Vanity Fair investigation quotes Dale Watson, the former head of counterterrorism at the F.B.I., as saying that the departing Saudis "were not subject to serious interviews or interrogations."

Mr. Watson could not be reached for comment today.

The article depicts an elaborate but hurried evacuation carried out within a week of the hijackings in which private planes picked up Saudis from 10 cities. Some aviation and bureau officials said they were upset by the operation because the government had not lifted flight restrictions for the general public, but those officials said they lacked the power to stop the evacuation, the article says.

Mr. Clarke, who left the White House in February, said in an interview that he was driven by concern that the Saudis "would be targeted for retribution" by Americans after the hijackings.

Mr. Clarke said he told the bureau to hold anyone it had suspicions about, and the F.B.I. said it did not hold anyone.

Mr. Schumer said he doubted the thoroughness of a rushed review by the bureau, and in a letter to the White House today he said the Saudis appeared to have gotten "a free pass" despite their possible knowledge about the attacks.

New Sentences Ordered for Somalis RICHMOND, Va., Sept. 3 (AP) — Jail terms for two Somali men linked to the Qaeda network were too light, an appeals court ruled today.

The three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ordered new sentencing for the men, who were convicted of evading financial reporting laws while transferring more than $6 million to the United Arab Emirates.

One of the men, Abdirahman Sheikh-ali Isse, was sentenced last year to 18 months in prison; the other, Abdillah S. Abdi, was sentenced to 10 months. Prosecutors have argued for sentences of three to five years.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fourthcircuit; richmond; saudis; september112001; september12era; somalia; terrortrials
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To: mabelkitty; Admin Moderator
Mabelkitty obviously can't read English if she thinks I'm from DU.

Please re-read my posts, Mabel.

I SUPPORT BUSH AND HIS DECISION TO SEND THE PLANELOAD OF INBRED CROSS-DRESSERS BACK TO SAUDIA ARABIA.

Bush is the President; he's got the intel; he can do what he wants.

Then I'd like an apology to me and a cc to the AdminModerator for your mischaracterization of my posts.

That is, if you can read this post.

61 posted on 09/04/2003 3:24:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: mabelkitty; Admin Moderator
You realize I'm talking about the planeload of relatives, not the 9-11 planes.

(Still struggling to understand your slander.)

62 posted on 09/04/2003 3:27:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: oceanview
I think they should've been returned to Saudia Arabia, since that's what Bush decided, which is what I've posted all along. Are we agreeing on that?

Please see my posts #61 and 62.

63 posted on 09/04/2003 3:32:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Just wanted to say I was stunned to see the attacks on you.

I understood what you were saying.

64 posted on 09/04/2003 3:37:41 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
I obviously need to sharpen my communication skills.

Thanks for your comment.

65 posted on 09/04/2003 3:49:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Beelzebubba
The whole damned business just stinks to the high heavens.
66 posted on 09/04/2003 4:16:16 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Beelzebubba
This is old news...You don't remember hearing about this?
67 posted on 09/04/2003 4:17:40 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Awareness is what you know before you know anything else.)
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To: Beelzebubba
This is really old news.
68 posted on 09/04/2003 6:08:50 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Beelzebubba
the Federal Bureau of Investigation assured him that the departing Saudis were not linked to terrorism.

That clinches it for me!! NOT!!! Geez, I wouldn't rely on the FBI to tell me the correct time of day.

69 posted on 09/04/2003 6:16:36 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Sic Semper Tyrannus)
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To: onedoug
"The whole damned business just stinks to the high heavens."

An interesting scenario where States vs. Federal Rights could have played out. Also a good case to demonstrate where one or two Honorable men/women could have nade a difference.

Scenario: Late in the day of 9/11.

With all commercial airplane traffic grounded and almost 3,000 Americans and Foreign Nationals dead from a terroist attack in New York, almost immediately attributed by authorities to Saudi Nationals and Osama Bin Ladin, a desk clerk for United Airlines notices Arab Nationals being gathered for an extrodinary flight out of Schmuckly Internationalo Airport at Statesville International Airport.

"What the hell is this!? I just found out my cousin is dead in New York and now the boss says the only flight leaving the entire U.S. is a bunch of overdressed Saudis?"

"I'm making a call to my friend in the governor's office".

Twenty minutes later a dozen State Police enter the airport and are stopped by people identifying themselves as Ferderal Agents.

"We need to find out why these people are the only people leaving the United States. We have information they may be implicated with today's terror attacks."

"You and your State Police associates have no juristiction here. Just move out Andy, and take Barney and the boys with you."

"We'll....I have another 20 troopers 5 minutes away. How 'bout you, me Ope, Aunt Bea and your Arab buddies all just relax and sit down while I call the Governor and have him stop by and sort this whole thing out? As of right now nobody is going anywhere."








70 posted on 09/04/2003 6:55:55 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (The Law of Unintended Consequences - No Good Deed Shall Go Unpunished.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Follow the trail and it leads to another Clintonista!

This chump Clarke was the fall guy for the bombing of the Aspirin factory (although you never heard much stink about that from the US media,ie DNC propoganda machine). And of course, nothing came of this because he blamed it on faulty intelligence, and the DNC propaganda machine obviously swept matters under the rug and moved on.

71 posted on 09/04/2003 7:57:54 PM PDT by jungleboy
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To: Vinnie
"This story is a non-starter. I remember TV cameras showing the plane leaving. If I remember correctly, it flew out of Logan."

Thanks for a.) remembering the circumstances and b.) making this point.

The family's presence in the U.S. and their authorized departure was widely reported within a week of 9/11.

So, I wonder, why would the New York Times (of all people) be resurrecting this non-story and presenting it as "news"? Could it be that a.) they know the original report went under most people's radar and b.) they have a political agenda...???

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

72 posted on 09/04/2003 8:07:00 PM PDT by okie01 (I support Billybob. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I just read through this thread.

I understood what you were saying too, so I was a bit confused by the accusation.

btw, this story is completely devoid of significance.......the left's weak attempt to create a crisis of trust in the President because it's the only hope they have of regaining the WH in 04.

It won't work.

73 posted on 09/04/2003 8:21:13 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
only 19 or so of the terrorist murderors were actually KNOWN to be of saudi nationality...

Are you saying 19 of the 19 on 9-11? Because if you are, IIRC some were Yemeni.

EVERY one of the saudis that killed us, as far as I know, were here in violation of the terms of their visas...

Also, IIRC, at least some if not the majority of them were here legally. I'm not sure about the accuracy of these statements.

74 posted on 09/04/2003 10:40:13 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: ohioWfan
Thanks for your post.

I agree with you. The democrats are fools to think the American public, who actually remembers 9-11, will forget that the same senators who are trashing the war on terror also voted for it.

Times change; democrats never do.

Didn't you have a son overseas with the military a few months ago? If so, how's he doing? Safe and well, I hope.

75 posted on 09/04/2003 11:58:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Oddly enough, he's temporarily in Germany with some ulceration in his esophagus. He's been overseas since March, and is most likely not coming home until December.

Funny thing is, the boy wants to go BACK to Baghdad, and not come home until he has finished his mission there.

Sometimes they make it hard on you when you raise them right! :o)

Oh......you'd be interested in knowing that he's started a Bible study at his Camp, and several have come to the Lord through that ministry! To GOD be the glory!

76 posted on 09/05/2003 6:59:55 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Beelzebubba
It was on National Review Online.
77 posted on 09/05/2003 8:12:27 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: expatpat
I think you can still use hildebeast/isaliar as username/password on a variety of sources

I tried it w/ the NYT a couple of days ago, but it didn't work.

78 posted on 09/05/2003 8:23:11 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (CAVEAT DICTATOR . AMERICA ANTE PORTAS)
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To: Beelzebubba; All
I suspect the WH was more concerned with how knowledge of these people being in the USA would affect the country. The one thing the WH DIDN'T NEED was a group of people taking it upon themselves to avenge the attack on the WTC.

I am convinced that if the families had not been ushered out of here - they would have been attacked and perhaps killed. Sorry .. I'm not for killing innocent men, women and children who had no part of the attack.

Also .. please keep in mind if one act of retalliation had proved successful it might have spurred on larger and larger groups of people to attack the Muslims at large. Can you imagine what would have happened to this country in just a few short weeks ..?? I think it would have resulted in a civil war - nobody would want that - nobody!!

As much as I am for the war and believe it was absolutely the right thing to do - and drawing all the "Jihad All Stars" to Iraq has been a brilliant strategy .. America does not need a civil war on it's own soil. Certainly our police departments already have their hands full with Homeland Security - they don't need a civil war.
79 posted on 09/05/2003 8:41:31 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: All
Snopes; Flight of Fancy http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flight.htm



80 posted on 09/05/2003 6:09:49 PM PDT by anglian
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