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1 posted on 09/04/2003 4:40:35 PM PDT by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
I really do think it's time to impeach the Supreme Court en mass and start over. These fools have never read the Constitution.
2 posted on 09/04/2003 4:56:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: FreedomCalls
I don't have faith that the Supremes will honestly give the 2nd Amendment a honest hearing on the simple grounds that they are part of the corrupt political class that has as religeous faith that we the people are to stupid to wipe ,flush,wash hands in the proper sequence when we use the toilet,let alone run our own lives, so the private ownership of arms which is a direct challenge to them & the notion that they have of "moral superiority" will eventually be stripped away. The judges understand that simply stating all private guns are now forbidden would start a dirty little war that would get THEM killed .
3 posted on 09/04/2003 5:00:08 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: *bang_list
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4 posted on 09/04/2003 5:06:11 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: FreedomCalls
This was a "commerce clause" case, and no one on the side of freedom wins those.

Also, the article deceptively says that the court "rejected an appeal" and that the plaintiffs "lost an appeal," when in reality the court simply declined to hear the case, as they do for 99+% of applications for certiorari.
5 posted on 09/04/2003 5:09:34 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: FreedomCalls
Here is a supreme court decision that lists the rights of all free citizens in the US. Dred Scott vs Sanford.

This part is often eliminated from readings with an elipsis......


....It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished; and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went. And all of this would be done in the face of the subject race of the same color, both free and slaves, and inevitably producing discontent and insubordination among them, and endangering the peace and safety of the State.


8 posted on 09/04/2003 5:25:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: FreedomCalls
Justice Department lawyers urged the court to reject the appeal.

Way to go Pubbies, you blow gun owners a kiss with one hand while you stab us in the back with the other. Bush and a bunch of Pubbie congressmen wouldn't be in office today if not for the votes of millions of gun owners who were fed up with the Democrat's unconstitutional gun laws. For that we keep getting our teeth kicked in by the same people we put in office. But I guess that's supposed to be OK because Ashcroft said he believes in the 2nd Amendment. Or maybe he was talking about some other 2nd Amendment the rest of us don't know about.

I don't personally have any desire to own either a Tec-9 or a Streetsweeper, but I will defend any law-abiding American's very clear Constitutional right to own as many of them as he or she can afford.

10 posted on 09/04/2003 5:43:14 PM PDT by epow
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To: FreedomCalls
I have searched and searched but find no mention of semi-automatics in the Second Amendment....

What am I missing?

16 posted on 09/04/2003 6:35:06 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: FreedomCalls
And once again it appears the USSC has managed to duck and cover on hearing a 2nd Amendment case. Of course, given their current flirtation with European legal fashions, maybe that's not such a bad thing...
17 posted on 09/04/2003 6:38:31 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: FreedomCalls
Without comment? Without a freaking comment? Let me get this straight. They reject an argument that banning firearms is unconstitutional and then don't cite the constitutional authority upon which they base their decision. Anybody who thinks this law "substantially affects interstate commerce" is a bloody idiot. We truly ARE doomed.
21 posted on 09/04/2003 6:59:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: FreedomCalls
They are asked to review tens of thousands of cases a year, but can only take about 1%. This case was not accepted.
34 posted on 09/04/2003 7:28:16 PM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper station.........)
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To: FreedomCalls
Without the 2nd Ammendment we are slaves---ready to get your collar size measured?

May someone tell me why I vote Republican if this is the result? Maybe Rush Limbaough was right and it has all been for nothing.

44 posted on 09/04/2003 8:07:52 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: FreedomCalls
It was a dumb argument. Doesn't matter if it was interstate commerce or not, the 2nd Amendment specifically prohibits Congress from passing such laws to begin with.
47 posted on 09/04/2003 8:32:35 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: FreedomCalls; DoughtyOne; 45Auto; tpaine
The gunmakers' appeal said the appeals court wrongly presumed that ``the manufacture and transfer of semiautomatic assault weapons was for a national market.''

Notice that the Kulturesmog has gotten so great that even these dipstick gunmakers have bought the "semiautomatic assault weapon" scam?

Ain't no such thing and the manufacturers should have said so.

57 posted on 09/05/2003 4:26:11 AM PDT by metesky (("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: robertpaulsen
Ping - more commerce clause "substantial effects on interstate commerce" abuse...
62 posted on 09/05/2003 7:02:54 AM PDT by ellery
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To: FreedomCalls
Justice Department lawyers urged the court to reject the appeal. ``Federal regulation of firearms and assault weapons is based in large part on evidence that the nationwide market for firearms renders purely local prohibitions ineffective,'' they said.

Here's a case where the allegedly pro-gun Republicans decline to support gun rights. Also, the notion that national prohibitions might work because local ones are ineffective is doubly flawed. First, drug prohibition is national - and a dismal failure. Second, whether guns are prohibited locally or nationally, the Second Amendment forbids this prohibition. Some people claim that "only the federal hand is stayed by the Second Amendment" - in which case only local prohibitions would possibly be legal. Of course, others claim the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Fourteenth, so that even local prohibitions are also illegal.

64 posted on 09/05/2003 7:52:58 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: FreedomCalls
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/976590/posts

They should do what this guy is doing...if he can request to disallow a judge for bias, why can't they?
66 posted on 09/05/2003 8:17:51 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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