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The Ten Commandments vs. America
The Rational Argumentator ^ | September 5, 2003 | Dr. Harry Binswanger

Posted on 09/05/2003 1:45:10 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II

In all the discussion about displaying the Ten Commandments in the Alabama courthouse, has anyone asked the fundamental question: what are the Ten Commandments? What is their philosophic meaning and what kind of society do they imply? Religious conservatives claim that the Ten Commandments supplied the moral grounding for the establishment of America. But is that even possible? Let's put aside the historical question of what sources the Founding Fathers, mostly Deists, drew upon. The deeper question is: can a nation of freedom, individualism and the pursuit of happiness be based on the Ten Commandments? Let's look at the commandments. The wording differs among the Catholic, Protestant and Hebrew versions, but the content is the same. The first commandment is: "I am the Lord thy God." As first, it is the fundamental. Its point is the assertion that the individual is not an independent being with a right to live his own life but the vassal of an invisible Lord. It says, in effect, "I own you; you must obey me." Could America be based on this? Is such a servile idea even consistent with what America represents: the land of the free, independent, sovereign individual who exists for his own sake? The question is rhetorical. The second commandment is an elaboration of the above, with material about not serving any other god and not worshipping "graven images" (idols). The Hebrew and Protestant versions threaten heretics with reprisals against their descendants—inherited sin—"visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation . . ." This primitive conception of law and morality flatly contradicts American values. Inherited guilt is an impossible and degrading concept. How can you be guilty for something you didn't do? In philosophic terms, it represents the doctrine of determinism, the idea that your choices count for nothing, that factors beyond your control govern your "destiny." This is the denial of free will and therefore of self-responsibility. The nation of the self-made man cannot be squared with the ugly notion that you are to be punished for the "sin" of your great-grandfather. The numbering differs among the various versions, but the next two or three commandments proscribe taking the Lord's name "in vain" and spending a special day, the Sabbath, in propitiating Him. In sum, the first set of commandments orders you to bow, fawn, grovel and obey. This is impossible to reconcile with the American concept of a self-reliant, self-owning individual. The middle commandment, "Honor thy father and mother," is manifestly unjust. Justice demands that you honor those who deserve honor, who have earned it by their choices and actions. Your particular father and mother may or may not deserve your honor—that is for you to judge on the basis of how they have treated you and of a rational evaluation of their moral character. To demand that Stalin's daughter honor Stalin is not only obscene, but also demonstrates the demand for mindlessness implicit in the first set of commandments. You are commanded not to think or judge, but to jettison your reason and simply obey. The second set of commandments is unobjectionable but is common to virtually every organized society—the commandments against murder, theft, perjury and the like. But what is objectionable is the notion that there is no rational, earthly basis for refraining from criminal behavior, that it is only the not-to-be-questioned decree of a supernatural Punisher that makes acts like theft and murder wrong. The basic philosophy of the Ten Commandments is the polar opposite of the philosophy underlying the American ideal of a free society. Freedom requires: — a metaphysics of the natural, not the supernatural; of free will, not determinism; of the primary reality of the individual, not the tribe or the family; — an epistemology of individual thought, applying strict logic, based on individual perception of reality, not obedience and dogma; — an ethics of rational self-interest, to achieve chosen values, for the purpose of individual happiness on this earth, not fearful, dutiful appeasement of "a jealous God" who issues "commandments." Rather than the Ten Commandments, the actual grounding for American values is that captured by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged: "If I were to speak your kind of language, I would say that man's only moral commandment is: Thou shalt think. But a 'moral commandment' is a contradiction in terms. The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Philosophy; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; dogmatism; freedom; independence; individualism; liberty; objectivism; reason; religion; tencommandments
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Dr. Harry Binswanger, author of The Biological Basis of Teleological Concepts, is a member of the board of directors of the Ayn Rand Institute (ARI) and teaches philosophy at ARI's Objectivist Graduate Center. The Institute (www.aynrand.org/medialink) promotes the philosophy of Ayn Rand, author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead.
1 posted on 09/05/2003 1:45:10 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II
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To: G. Stolyarov II
Paragraphs are our friends. :)
2 posted on 09/05/2003 1:46:40 PM PDT by kesg
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To: G. Stolyarov II
Here is a better-formated version of the article:

In all the discussion about displaying the Ten Commandments in the Alabama courthouse, has anyone asked the fundamental question: what are the Ten Commandments? What is their philosophic meaning and what kind of society do they imply?

Religious conservatives claim that the Ten Commandments supplied the moral grounding for the establishment of America. But is that even possible? Let's put aside the historical question of what sources the Founding Fathers, mostly Deists, drew upon. The deeper question is: can a nation of freedom, individualism and the pursuit of happiness be based on the Ten Commandments?

Let's look at the commandments. The wording differs among the Catholic, Protestant and Hebrew versions, but the content is the same.

The first commandment is: "I am the Lord thy God."

As first, it is the fundamental. Its point is the assertion that the individual is not an independent being with a right to live his own life but the vassal of an invisible Lord. It says, in effect, "I own you; you must obey me."

Could America be based on this? Is such a servile idea even consistent with what America represents: the land of the free, independent, sovereign individual who exists for his own sake? The question is rhetorical.

The second commandment is an elaboration of the above, with material about not serving any other god and not worshipping "graven images" (idols). The Hebrew and Protestant versions threaten heretics with reprisals against their descendants—inherited sin—"visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation . . ."

This primitive conception of law and morality flatly contradicts American values. Inherited guilt is an impossible and degrading concept. How can you be guilty for something you didn't do? In philosophic terms, it represents the doctrine of determinism, the idea that your choices count for nothing, that factors beyond your control govern your "destiny." This is the denial of free will and therefore of self-responsibility.

The nation of the self-made man cannot be squared with the ugly notion that you are to be punished for the "sin" of your great-grandfather.

The numbering differs among the various versions, but the next two or three commandments proscribe taking the Lord's name "in vain" and spending a special day, the Sabbath, in propitiating Him.

In sum, the first set of commandments orders you to bow, fawn, grovel and obey. This is impossible to reconcile with the American concept of a self-reliant, self-owning individual.

The middle commandment, "Honor thy father and mother," is manifestly unjust. Justice demands that you honor those who deserve honor, who have earned it by their choices and actions. Your particular father and mother may or may not deserve your honor—that is for you to judge on the basis of how they have treated you and of a rational evaluation of their moral character.

To demand that Stalin's daughter honor Stalin is not only obscene, but also demonstrates the demand for mindlessness implicit in the first set of commandments. You are commanded not to think or judge, but to jettison your reason and simply obey.

The second set of commandments is unobjectionable but is common to virtually every organized society—the commandments against murder, theft, perjury and the like. But what is objectionable is the notion that there is no rational, earthly basis for refraining from criminal behavior, that it is only the not-to-be-questioned decree of a supernatural Punisher that makes acts like theft and murder wrong.

The basic philosophy of the Ten Commandments is the polar opposite of the philosophy underlying the American ideal of a free society. Freedom requires:

— a metaphysics of the natural, not the supernatural; of free will, not determinism; of the primary reality of the individual, not the tribe or the family;

— an epistemology of individual thought, applying strict logic, based on individual perception of reality, not obedience and dogma;

— an ethics of rational self-interest, to achieve chosen values, for the purpose of individual happiness on this earth, not fearful, dutiful appeasement of "a jealous God" who issues "commandments."

Rather than the Ten Commandments, the actual grounding for American values is that captured by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged:

"If I were to speak your kind of language, I would say that man's only moral commandment is: Thou shalt think. But a 'moral commandment' is a contradiction in terms. The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments."

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3 posted on 09/05/2003 1:47:02 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II (http://www.geocities.com/rationalargumentator/index17.html)
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To: G. Stolyarov II
Founding Fathers, mostly Deists,

I stopped there. Some of the Founders were Diests. Most were not.

4 posted on 09/05/2003 1:47:26 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Skooz
I stopped there. Some of the Founders were Diests. Most were not.

Me too.

Garbage.

With or without paragraphs.

5 posted on 09/05/2003 1:50:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Thank God for FR)
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To: Skooz
I stopped there. Some of the Founders were Diests. Most were not.

Maybe you should have kept reading. :) Incidentally, both Thomas Jefferson (who inspired the First Amendment and first coined the phrase "separation of church and state" when explaining its establishment clause) and John Madison (who actually drafted the First Amendment) were both Deists. So was George Washington, who presided over the Constitutional Convention.

6 posted on 09/05/2003 1:57:50 PM PDT by kesg
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To: G. Stolyarov II
Since Binswanger has his Ph.D. and claims to have done his scholarship, I accuse him of being a liar, rather than merely a fool. It is false that "most of the Framers were deists." Only by selective quotation -- the Maureen Dowd dodge -- can it even be argued that Jefferson and Franklin were deists. And a thorough reading of their works shows the charge is false.

The only "Framer" who was clearly a a deist, was Thomas Paine. His Age of Reason makes it perfectly clear that that was his viewpoint at the end of his life (though not when he wrote his towering works, Common Sense and The American Crisis).

This is typical of the leftists; when you give an inch, they take a mile. People like Binswanger and the Ayn Rand Institute shove Tom Paine into the "atheist" category -- they take each political philosopher, and shove them one more notch to the left than they really were.

As the author on an upcoming book on Tom Paine (entitled These Are the Times that Try Men's Souls) I will cheerfully take Binswanger on, nose to nose and research to reseach.

Is he reading this thread? Binswanger, you are a liar, and should be ashamed of yourself. There, does that cover the waterfront?

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "We Are Running for Congress -- Maybe," discussion thread on FR.

8 posted on 09/05/2003 2:24:21 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Everyone talks about Congress; time to act on it. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: golden1
Who was it that first made the statement "the government of the people, by the people, for the people"? Abe Lincoln at Gettysburg? Nope.

It was John Wycliffe, in the 14th century who said, "This Bible is for the government of the people, by the people, for the people"

9 posted on 09/05/2003 2:28:06 PM PDT by Galatians513
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To: kesg
"So was George Washington(a Deist), who presided over the Constitutional Convention."

George Washington was a Christian. His own personal writings and an affirmation by his own family strongly rebut this lie.

I'm very tired of the re-writing of American history to support the lies of the godless.

10 posted on 09/05/2003 2:34:37 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: kesg
Niether Jefferson, nor Madison, nor Washington were Deists. Jefferson was a nominal Christian, who disbelieved the miraculous but attempted to pattern his life after the life of Christ and the teachings of the Bible. He believed in personal God who could intervene on behalf of humanity. Deists did not.

Washington was a Christian. A true believer. His writings make this abundantly clear.

Like I stated earlier, some founders were Deists. Most were not.

11 posted on 09/05/2003 2:41:43 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: kesg
"...John Madison (who actually drafted the First Amendment)..."

Who the hell is "John" Madison?
12 posted on 09/05/2003 3:32:15 PM PDT by beelzepug (incessantly yapping for change)
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To: beelzepug
Who the hell is "John" Madison?

Ouch, did I write that? :) James Madison. Dam spellchecker is on the blink again.

13 posted on 09/05/2003 3:41:30 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Skooz
To be honest, there seems to be some disagreement on who was or was not a Deist, but the point doesn't interest me. The point that interests me is that these men (Deists or otherwise in their personal life) clearly believed in separation of church and state, and two of them (Jefferson and Madison) were primarily responsible for the First Amendment itself.
14 posted on 09/05/2003 3:46:50 PM PDT by kesg
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To: kesg
The point that interests me is that these men (Deists or otherwise in their personal life) clearly believed in separation of church and state,

You have no historical basis for that assertion. The "separation of church and state," as we know it, was discovered by the Warren Court in 1962. It is nowhere in the Constitution or any other founding document.

15 posted on 09/05/2003 4:51:41 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Skooz
"Deist" is offered but not defined.

de-ism n. Belief in the existence of God as the creator of the universe who after setting it in motion abandoned it, assumed no control over life, exerted no influence on natural phenonmena, and gave no supernatural revelation.

The Founders believed the Bible to be the written word of God. The Founders prayed. Deists don't pray. What would be the use since the Demiurge has "left the building."

http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detail.php?ResourceID=29
16 posted on 09/05/2003 4:54:39 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: G. Stolyarov II
Let's put aside the historical question of what sources the Founding Fathers, mostly Deists, drew upon

2 deists, one no pref and 52 Chritstinas, mostly Calivinists a conservative sect.

17 posted on 09/05/2003 4:57:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: nonsporting
Exactly. Deists subscribed the "master clockmaker" theory of God. They believed that the universe and all therein was composed so well and orderly that divine influence could not be beneficial. Thus, God tended to other matters as the universe plodded on.
18 posted on 09/05/2003 4:57:57 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Skooz
You have no historical basis for that assertion. The "separation of church and state," as we know it, was discovered by the Warren Court in 1962.

No. Jefferson used the phrase in a famous 1802 letter to describe the meaning and intent of the establishment clause. Madison was, if anything, an even stronger advocate of separation of church and state than was Jefferson.

19 posted on 09/05/2003 5:01:02 PM PDT by kesg
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To: kesg
Neither Jefferson, who was in France, nor Madison authored the First Amendment, Fisher Ames did. His state at the time of it's ratiifcation had a state establisehed religion.

Likewise, Jefferson did not construct a "wall of separation", Justice Hugo Black did that in Everson in 1946. In fact Jefferson and Madison authored a law, while members of the Virginia Legislature, proscribing penalties for breaking the Sabbath. Jefferson, as POTUS, used the public treasury to build Catholic missions for the Indians and man them with the word of God, the Bible.

And that's the rest of the story.

20 posted on 09/05/2003 5:02:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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