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Democrat Hopefuls Sense Victory Lies In Attacking War
Independent (UK) ^ | 9-6-2003 | Rupert Cornwell

Posted on 09/05/2003 4:38:23 PM PDT by blam

Democrat hopefuls sense victory lies in attacking war

By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
06 September 2003

The Democratic White House contenders mounted a withering onslaught on President George Bush in their first official debate of the 2004 campaign, but came up with nothing to threaten Howard Dean's status as the front-runner.

The 90-minute debate, held in Albuquerque, New Mexico, had been expected to produce the first concentrated attacks on Mr Dean from his rivals, especially the Massachusetts senator John Kerry, regarded as perhaps the most dangerous challenger to Mr Bush in the general election, but whose campaign has been eclipsed by the combative former governor of Vermont.

Instead Mr Kerry held his fire, and the eight candidates joined forces to lash Mr Bush for his handling of Iraq and the economy, the two issues they sense could open the way to the recapture of the White House next November. "This is the opening bell of the campaign," said Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, who helped to organise the event.

The one exception was Joe Lieberman, vice-presidential running mate of Al Gore in the 2000 campaign, who accused Mr Dean of protectionist policies that would see "the Bush recession followed by the Dean depression". Otherwise it was open season on a President whose ratings in the polls are sliding back to their levels before 11 September, and whose re-election is no longer the near-certainty it seemed just a few months ago.

The pattern was set at the outset by Richard Gephardt, the former House majority leader and an influential early supporter of the war against Iraq. In a blistering attack, Mr Gephardt pronounced Mr Bush "a miserable failure" in his Iraq policy. "I some days just can't believe it; it's incomprehensible that we would wind up ... without a plan and without international co-operation to get this done."

The debate featured eight of the nine declared candidates: Mr Dean, Mr Kerry, Mr Gephardt and Mr Lieberman, Senators John Edwards of North Carolina and Bob Graham of Florida, the Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, and Carol Moseley Braun, a former Illinois senator. The only no-show was Al Sharpton, the firebrand civil rights leader whose plane was held up in New York by bad weather.

The caustic anti-Bush tone of proceedings was itself a reflection of the impact Mr Dean has had on the campaign, as he taps into the anti-war sentiment of Democratic activists - exactly the people who will be voting in the primaries that are now just four months away - and their almost physical abhorrence of Mr Bush and his policies. The others have been forced to toughen their language against the President and his handling of the war. But that has caused difficulties for candidates who backed last October's Congressional resolution authorising the war, above all for Mr Kerry, most directly threatened by the Dean surge.

On Thursday night a slightly different Mr Dean was on display. The angry outsider toned down his rhetoric. His sometimes acerbic criticism of his Washington-based rivals gave way to the more generous and conciliatory stance befitting a front-runner.

And only Mr Leiberman - who despite his high name- recognition after the 2000 election has had scant impact on the race thus far - went for the former Vermont governor head on. As well as challenging Mr Dean's trade policies ("We cannot build a wall around America") he took issue with Mr Dean on the size of the US troop contingent in Iraq.

Mr Dean insisted that any increase in troop strength in Iraq should come from other countries, adding: "Our troops need to come home." But Mr Lieberman, one of the strongest Democrat supporters of the war, flatly disagreed, saying: "I would send more troops. The troops that are there need more protection."

Even on the economy the main target was President Bush, and some of the candidates, mindful of their large Hispanic audience in New Mexico, even broke into rudimentary Spanish to make their point.

The best of them came from Mr Edwards. "The President goes around the country speaking Spanish," the North Carolina Senator declared. "But when it comes to jobs, the only Spanish he speaks is 'hasta la vista'." The gibe was vindicated yesterday when the latest unemployment figures showed that, despite recent signs of a revival, the economy shed another 93,000 jobs in August. It is the seventh consecutive monthly decline.

But Republicans are unruffled by the criticism. Calculating that the doom-and-gloom message of their opponents is out of touch with the national mood, the party plans a new TV ad campaign. It will argue that Democrats have nothing to offer the country, save bitterness and pessimism.

THE LINES OF FIRE

RICHARD GEPHARDT: "We cannot cut and run. We have a President who has broken up the alliances that Democratic and Republican presidents have put together over 70 years. It would be a big difference in Iraq if we had an international force there. The President is not doing his job."

JOHN KERRY: "Being flown to an aircraft carrier and pronouncing the words 'mission accomplished' does not end a war, and the swagger of a President who says 'bring 'em on' does not bring our troops peace or safety. He failed in his diplomacy. He has inherited the wind."

HOWARD DEAN: "In order to get the United Nations and Nato into Iraq, this President is going to have to go back to the very people he humiliated, our allies, on the way into Iraq and hope ... they will now agree that we need their help there."

JOHN EDWARDS: "Saddam Hussein being gone is a very good thing, good for the Iraqi people, good for the region. But we have young men in a shooting gallery right now. And the prime reason is that we have a President who did not have a plan."

DENNIS KUCINICH: "It is time to bring the troops home. It is time to bring the UN in and get the US out. There was no reason to go into Iraq in the first place, and everyone who assumed the responsibility has to answer to the American people."

JOE LIEBERMAN: "The administration let down our troops by not planning properly for the reconstruction [of Iraq]. This is an administration divided against itself, and the President has not brought it together. I would send in more troops to Iraq."

CAROL MOSELEY BRAUN: "They [the Bush administration] have no answer for the American people on how to get out with honour. It seems to me that is the challenge, and so I welcome the international community."

BOB GRAHAM: "What will be our long-term commitment in Iraq? What will we do about restarting the war against Osama bin Laden? What is our exit strategy? Who is going to pay this $60bn to $80bn [Mr Bush's expected supplementary funding request to Congress]?"


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; attacking; democrat; electionpresident; hopefuls; victory; war
The Dems haven't heard that the 'Soccer Moms' are now 'Security Moms'?
1 posted on 09/05/2003 4:38:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
If you check latest Foxnews survey of who won last nights debate...92% responded by saying they didnt watch it.
2 posted on 09/05/2003 4:40:15 PM PDT by Tarl ("Men killing men, feeling no pain...the world is a gutter - ENUFF Z'NUFF")
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To: blam
I don't know why Carol Moseley Braun isn't doing better in the polls -being so smart and all.
3 posted on 09/05/2003 4:50:24 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: Roscoe Karns
Democrat Hopefuls Sense Victory Lies In Attacking War

They thought that back in 1972 and look what it got them...

4 posted on 09/05/2003 4:56:32 PM PDT by Russ
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To: Roscoe Karns
"I don't know why Carol Moseley Braun isn't doing better in the polls -being so smart and all."

Well, maybe she will get a job as a professor at Cornell like Cynthia McKinney-D (Georgia).

5 posted on 09/05/2003 4:56:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: Roscoe Karns
"I don't know why Carol Moseley Braun isn't doing better in the polls -being so smart and all."

I believe she is ahead of Kucinich by 0 to 0, due to rounding.

Somehow it doesn't seem fair that they have to run a whole country with only nine candidates.

California gets 135 candidates, and that's just for a state.
6 posted on 09/05/2003 5:07:36 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Tarl
What debate?
7 posted on 09/05/2003 5:28:25 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: blam
God help us if one of these horrible men or that vicious woman is elected. We will be sitting ducks. I am so sick of the lies these people are putting out there about the President and the war. How could this nation have forgotten what happened here?
8 posted on 09/05/2003 5:31:22 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: caisson71
Exactly:) I still don't believe those nine are the real candadates...they don't "debate", they try their best merely to bash Bush...to soften the opposition for the "real" candadate. I could just be too skeptical of the Libs knack for deception.
9 posted on 09/05/2003 7:24:24 PM PDT by Tarl ("Men killing men, feeling no pain...the world is a gutter - ENUFF Z'NUFF")
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To: blam
RICHARD GEPHARDT: "We cannot cut and run. We have a President who has broken up the alliances that Democratic and Republican presidents have put together over 70 years. It would be a big difference in Iraq if we had an international force there. The President is not doing his job."

Gephardt seems to be trying to get to the right of Bush, but Lieberman seems to be there already. Funny thing, Bush did everything right at the UN, except anticipate the utter corruption of France and other Quislings in their last minute reneging on their previous Security Council votes, thereby stabbing us in the back, and betraying the entire Western World. Where did the President not do his job? Gephardt would have cut and run... and simply acquiesced to France's treachery... thereby failing to defend the United States. Since he apparently anticipates breaking his Presidential oath, and kowtowing to the Socialist Internationale when it comes to national security, perhaps he would be doing his job... which is doing the bidding of his masters in Paris and the UN.

JOHN KERRY: "Being flown to an aircraft carrier and pronouncing the words 'mission accomplished' does not end a war, and the swagger of a President who says 'bring 'em on' does not bring our troops peace or safety. He failed in his diplomacy. He has inherited the wind."

Note that Kerry announced his so far lackluster candidacy for President in front of a de-comissioned aircraft carrier. Without realizing it, his choice speaks volumes about a man who voted against every successful and effective weapons program in the last 20 years. Also note that Kerry did serve in Viet Nam. Also note that Kerry disgraced himself by marching with pro-communist, anti-American war protesters, and has never asked forgiveness, as far as I know.

HOWARD DEAN: "In order to get the United Nations and Nato into Iraq, this President is going to have to go back to the very people he humiliated, our allies, on the way into Iraq and hope ... they will now agree that we need their help there."

Our allies are the UK, Poland, Spain, Turkey, Australia, Qatar, and several others. We don't have to go back to them, as they are all with us now. Our former allies are the nations Dean is thinking about; France, Germany, Belgium, and Canada, hardly the wronged parties in our relationship. It was the US and the West that France and its toadies betrayed by reneging on its previous commitments, and thereby exposing Chirac's corrupt and treacherous support for Saddam Hussein. It would be ridiculous to believe that France and Germany would do anything but undermine our efforts to establish peace and stability in Iraq. If we need help, asking for a knife in the back is clearly the wrong thing to do.

JOHN EDWARDS: "Saddam Hussein being gone is a very good thing, good for the Iraqi people, good for the region. But we have young men in a shooting gallery right now. And the prime reason is that we have a President who did not have a plan."

Funny how the war was won in record time, with remarkably few casualties, even Iraqi citizens, and progress is being made in just a few months, despite vicious, fraudulent, and ignorant criticisms that give aid and comfort to the terrorist enemy, ... and all without a plan! I don't think Edwards would recognize a plan if you drew it on his belly.

DENNIS KUCINICH: "It is time to bring the troops home. It is time to bring the UN in and get the US out. There was no reason to go into Iraq in the first place, and everyone who assumed the responsibility has to answer to the American people."

I never thought it possible that a cartoon character could actually bridge the dimensional divide between comic books and reality, but Kucinich has proven me wrong. That being the case, I wonder what MAD Magazine is going to do now that Alfred E. Neuman has jumped ship and is going by the name Dennis Kucinich?

JOE LIEBERMAN: "The administration let down our troops by not planning properly for the reconstruction [of Iraq]. This is an administration divided against itself, and the President has not brought it together. I would send in more troops to Iraq."

Lieberman thinks he can get to the right of Bush on the war issue... trouble is, he supported the previous administration's gutting of the military, which leaves us asking the question, since there are only 10 divisions in the current Army because of Clinton's cut backs, and the fact that the troops must be rotated regardless, .... what troops are you talking about?

CAROL MOSELEY BRAUN: "They [the Bush administration] have no answer for the American people on how to get out with honour. It seems to me that is the challenge, and so I welcome the international community."

I suggest that we use campaign funds to go on vacations to African countries with brutal dictators, and then buy lots of jewelry and gifts for our boyfriend, that will surely engender the "honour" necessary to once again join the international community. Either that or make idiotic statements on the Senate floor, proving just how out of our league we actually are and that embarrass our constituents back home.

BOB GRAHAM: "What will be our long-term commitment in Iraq? What will we do about restarting the war against Osama bin Laden? What is our exit strategy? Who is going to pay this $60bn to $80bn [Mr Bush's expected supplementary funding request to Congress]?"

Zell Miller wrote his book about how the Democrats are completely out of touch with reality with Bob Graham in mind. Graham must be satisfied with either his .01% ratings in the polls, or a potential place as undersecretary of underwear in the never to be Dean administration. Tough choice.

10 posted on 09/05/2003 7:30:18 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: blam
"Democrat hopefuls sense victory lies in attacking war"

And .. like Zell Miller said about them .. they are clueless what the American people really want.
11 posted on 09/05/2003 7:38:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: Tarl
I don't think you're too skeptical. You may be right on the mark. Good observation.
12 posted on 09/05/2003 7:48:44 PM PDT by caisson71
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