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NEW FIELD POLL ON CA RECALL
Drudge Report ^ | Sept 9, 2003 | Field Poll

Posted on 09/08/2003 4:45:01 PM PDT by RobFromGa

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To: EggsAckley
I really don't want to see your state sink into chaos and I know what that means. But I do believe that if Cruz got in the truth of what he is and what he would do would cause an incredible backlash. So far the PC folks get away with their nutty ideas because noone ever gets to see the logical outcome of what they espouse. I think Cruz would give California away, I think he would accelerate the bankrupcy of the state. I honestly think this guy is scary as hell. We had one like that in Louisiana once and it was bad,,it took two generations to start to recover from that and the state is not out of the woods. His very badness and the badness of the democratic party here will be their undoing. And with Cruz, it will be undone even faster,,he is a radical and while Californians pretend to be radicals, I don't think they will stomach what he would do. I also think the pubs are killing themselves. But nevertheless, I don't want to see "our people" suffer any more than they are already.
241 posted on 09/08/2003 6:38:09 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: A CA Guy
This is a Conservative forum.
242 posted on 09/08/2003 6:38:12 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Tamsey
*A vote for Arnold is a vote for Amnesty.

**Your severely biased assertion, despite much evidence to the contrary.

Give me actual evidence, not spin.

Are you saying that despite his comments on Hannity, Arnold doesn't want to legalize "undocumented immigrants?"

Source? Link?

Here's your chance... persuade me, and I'll consider voting for Arnold.


243 posted on 09/08/2003 6:38:53 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold opposes the driver's licenses, but he also wants to lobby DC to legalize Illegal Aliens. Ah.)
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To: Fishrrman
Because, from where I sit, that looks like the _actual_ choice you may have to make. Either vote "yes" to retain Davis, or vote for the Republican candidate of your choice -- and _get_ Bustamente.

I don't think it is that simple any more. Bustamante is no longer saying "no on recall." His Mexican voters are going to vote for him, and for the recall - watch. A can of worms has been opened that cannot be closed. Democrats know how to game this thing, too. Davis will be recalled, and there is nothing to prevent it. The remaining question is who will replace him - and it isn't going to be McClintock or Ueberroth.

244 posted on 09/08/2003 6:39:27 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: freekitty
I don't see how a candidate who is making it easy for Bustamante could possibly be the 'best man'.
245 posted on 09/08/2003 6:39:29 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Kids are starving in China and you're walking around with a sombrero full of peanuts.)
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To: Godebert
So what does that mean? This is a "conservative forum". Sure it is but a "conservative" covers alot of territory, something FReepers refuse to acknowledge at times. It may come as a shock but conservatives don't march lockstep.
246 posted on 09/08/2003 6:41:53 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: redlipstick
McSpoiler with the Napoleon complex belonged out of here before absentee ballots were delivered to homes.

Let's see who the Democrat supporters are who still follow this most selfish political hack and see how they can claim to be so darn conservative while getting Democrats elected.

They are a joke as of this point IMO!
247 posted on 09/08/2003 6:44:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SunStar
You don't have it right about Arnold at all! It is a lot more than Taxes!

Arnold supports the ban on partial birth abortion and is for parental notification!

Cruz is for neither!

Arnold is against illegal immigation -- Cruz welcomes them.

Arnold is against driver's license for illegals -- Cruz is for them.

Shall I go on?

Your credibility would be enhanced if you didn't spin and say they are the same except for Taxes!
248 posted on 09/08/2003 6:44:27 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Tin foil time, but with casino money floating about, and Tommy STILL acting like he's a somebody to be reckoned with, will he have a higher profile under a Davis or Bustamante admin???

What has gone unsaid is perhaps....the No side winning on the recall, by McClintock staying in the race until the bitter end.Considering how nasty Davis is, it has to be considered :)
249 posted on 09/08/2003 6:44:59 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: cajungirl
"So what does that mean? This is a "conservative forum". Sure it is but a "conservative" covers alot of territory, something FReepers refuse to acknowledge at times. It may come as a shock but conservatives don't march lockstep."

You've confused republican with Conservative. This is a Conservative forum, and Arnold is no Conservative.

250 posted on 09/08/2003 6:46:04 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: PhiKapMom
The perfect is the enemy of the good. McClintock supporters need to know this. Republicans need to know this.
251 posted on 09/08/2003 6:46:32 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Sabertooth
I provided that all to you the other evening, along with the AP article that stated in black and white that Arnold does not propose Amnesty.

Your choice in believing he is lying is puzzling enough. Your extending that personal belief as fact and using it to damage him as a candidate deserves to be disputed.
252 posted on 09/08/2003 6:47:10 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Godebert
Well, would you allow that Arnold is more conservative than Cruz. Or is it McClintock or nobody? And conservative means alot of things. Not just your view.
253 posted on 09/08/2003 6:48:17 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
Which of Arnold's positions in post #238 do you consider to be Conservative?
254 posted on 09/08/2003 6:49:01 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: habs4ever
The more I think about it, the more I believe that all that Indian Casino money that MCClintock is sharing with Bustamante comes with strings.


255 posted on 09/08/2003 6:49:21 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Kids are starving in China and you're walking around with a sombrero full of peanuts.)
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To: PhiKapMom; SunStar
Democrats do not boldly back Proposition 13.
Democrats do not boldly back tax cuts and spending reduction.
Democrats do not use the Hoover Institute and its fellows for advice and audits.
Democrats do not oppose Partial Birth Abortion.
Democrats do not favor parental notification for abortion -- at all.
Democrats do not pledge enthusiastically to campaign for President Bush's re-election.
Democrats do not talk about reforming worker's comp.
Democrats do not get endorsed enthusiastically by men like David Dreier, Dana Rohrabacher, Chris Cox, and John Campbell.
Democrats do not get endorsed by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers' Association
Democrats do not get endorsed by libertarian economist Milton Friedman
Democrats do not audit the state's books
Democrats do not oppose DL for illegal aliens
Democrats do not oppose permanent residency amnesty for illegal aliens
Democrats do not support the war in Iraq
Democrats are not pro-national defense, pro-military, pro-troops
Democrats do not oppose 8-hour workday and paid family leave
Democrats do not support "English-only"
Democrats do not call for stricter border security and more patrols.

256 posted on 09/08/2003 6:50:20 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Godebert
None. But he is not associating with those who would give California back to Mexico and he is against taxes and has a pro business stance. And I agree with some of the things posted. Arnold is a social liberal and claims to be a fiscal conservative. Sounds like alot of people I like and am related to. The world is not black or white in my mind. Does that make me the enemy?
257 posted on 09/08/2003 6:50:45 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Sabertooth
Are you saying that despite his comments on Hannity, Arnold doesn't want to legalize "undocumented immigrants?"

While Arnold himself has said that he wants to 'legalize' illegal immigrants (I think his actual words were "get them out from undercover"), a spokesman for him has said that he doesn't support 'amnesty'. You make the call.

258 posted on 09/08/2003 6:51:10 PM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: ambrose
If McClintock can't possibly win a statewide race in California, then why would you want him to run for the US Senate?

If there is a Republican in the Governor's mansion and the state hasn't fallen into the ocean, a Republican with name recognition could easily take the seat away from Boxer who is the weaker of the two senators from California.

Would the party support him? Certainly. Why? Because the state party wants McClintock controlled, simple as that. As for those who suppose Dreir will run for the Senate, in my opinion you can strike his name off the list right now. Why give up a secure seat in the House where he's the head of the rules committee to become the junior senator from California?
259 posted on 09/08/2003 6:51:58 PM PDT by kingu
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To: TheAngryClam
Then enjoy being ruled by Bust-a-move. I hope he pays you back.
260 posted on 09/08/2003 6:52:19 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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