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1 posted on 09/14/2003 8:34:44 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
The service at the VA hospitals is in a deplorable state. There is a lack of doctors and other care givers. Funding never seems to be enough. But on the bright side Hillary "will promise" to change that if elected, you can count on it! Will she deliver? Ha!
2 posted on 09/14/2003 8:44:45 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Where is Hillary's Living History now?)
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To: fight_truth_decay
A search on Vanessa Turner will take you to: Republicans Declare War on America's Veterans !...What the Republicans are really trying to do is to STEAL from America's Disabled Veterans to pay for the massive Republican Giveaway Programs for the rich...It is time for ALL Veterans, and people of conscience, to UNITE against this great EVIL that is controlling our country.http://vetsforjustice.com/
3 posted on 09/14/2003 8:44:47 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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The VA is what Democrats want to do for all Americans. It didn't use to be this way with the VA. It came about the same time politicians started selling fiscal common sense for votes.
6 posted on 09/14/2003 9:10:56 PM PDT by Bogey78O (The Clinton's have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured/killed -Peach)
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To: fight_truth_decay
READ THIS CLOSELY:

Turner, a young black Army sergeant from Boston, was medically retired from the military when doctors at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center thought she was on her deathbed after collapsing in 130-degree heat in Iraq. When she miraculously recovered and found herself unemployed, homeless, and without any kind of health insurance, she reported to the VA hospital in Boston to seek further care for her unresolved illness and related injuries. The VA informed her that she could be seen on October 12.

Talk about a pack of lies trying to slam the US some more.

Medically Retired? then she receives her retirement pay! IF she is disabled, she receives additional $$$ above the standard retired pay. If she is NOT disabled ... Unemployed my ass!

Homeless? it is probably just another blatant lie - unless it was by her choice. Did her boyfriend kick her out? her hubby????? her family??????

No medical insurance? IF medically retired see above.

I have service connected disabilities, we have a brand new clinic with very good doctors, if hospitalization is required, first choice is the one of the TWO VA hospitals in LittleRock. If specialization is required, the local hospital is available thru medicare?

If you need medications and you are receiving disability from the military, it is covered 100% if you are 100% disabled or a small co-pay if you are not 100%.

Notice the city she is from....Home of the kennedy crime family and the kerry slime pit.

Why doesn't someone knock on their door first before you knock on America? It was THEIR fault. And I will give you 100-1 odds that this pack of lies has been started by the dnc/kennedy/kerry crime clan

I am 100% disabled - I DO visit the local VA clinic - I do NOT have supplemental medicare insurance and cannot receive it anyway (I lie, I can buy supplemental at around $2000/mo - my insurance agent said bank the money instead) I receive my medications from the VA I pay a $20 co-pay (My 100% is not totally caused by military - in their opinion - that's why the co-pay)
7 posted on 09/14/2003 9:18:09 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To mitigate this backlog, Secretary Principi was forced to make a politically unpopular move in January, and suspend new enrollments by veterans above a certain income level with health issues lacking a direct service connection.

I think this is called "means testing," and seems a fair way to handle Non Service Connected issues (disease or injury) I've been through this process in the past, and it seems fair to me. When I was sick and unemployed, the VA took care of me (Ann Arbor, MI) When I could afford my own health plan, I didn't expect the VA to take care of me anymore. Just my two-cents worth. Regards, Avery

DTOM

8 posted on 09/14/2003 9:20:20 PM PDT by Ace's Dad
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To: fight_truth_decay
I am in the VA system and have been told now that because it has been so long since I have seen a doctor(pain was being controlled by medication) that I will have to wait "month and months," direct quote from VA rep until I can get more medication until I see a VA doc. In the mean time they will not even cover an emergency room visit, because it is a "chronic condition." They broke me, they won't fix me. Iraq is the excuse they are using. Vets should be the first in line for any problems, the welfare recipients last. What is happening is a disgrace, and I blame government, but mostly the lying dimrats.
10 posted on 09/14/2003 9:40:02 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Veterans' care is lumped in with the same piece of funding as military, war, foreign aid, etc ( all Defense budget items).

Veterans' care should be moved into the "social spending" category so they can compete with Medicaid and other social programs. Veterans should not have to compete with funding for wars and foreign aid.



14 posted on 09/14/2003 11:29:17 PM PDT by Susannah (Over 200 people murdered in L. A.County-first 5 mos. of 2003 & NONE were fighting Iraq!!)
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When she miraculously recovered and found herself unemployed, homeless, and without any kind of health insurance

One, people don't just find themselves unemployed and homeless. But leaving that aside, what do you expect from government hospitals? The whole VA hospital system should be abolished and vets should be bought private health insurance policies so that they can go to any hospital to get the care that they deserve.

16 posted on 09/15/2003 6:56:47 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Priority to Gulf War Vets? For God's sake, what about the Vietnam Vets, the WW2 Vets, the Vets who supported our country for years but never went into a war zone? Our Federal Government has made a mockery of our Constitution which says it's priority is to defend and protect.

My brother died just last week because the VA failed to act on his behalf. I am still reeling from my family's loss and it's very hard to explain to his two little kids why they were standing next to a coffin accepting a flag rather than bringing a living dad back home. When it comes to Veterans, it shouldn't matter how old they are, what war the fought in, or even whether or not they saw actual combat or supported the efforts from home........they deserve better! I saw last night where a prisoner was bumped to the top of the transplant list because he was given special medical protection by the State of California, but my brother, a disabled Vietnam Vet whose heart was damaged in Vietnam was told they couldn't do anything until it was too damned late to do anything!!!!

Vanessa should have definitely received the care she deserved, but so should ever single other vet out there! Instead we are catering to illegals and people who have forfeited their positions in society by their own actions.

Teddy Kennedy helped her? That was big of him. Isn't it pathetic that she should have to go ask for Congress to get her into treatment? Just like my brother, lying on his death bed functioning at only 10% heart capacity (which is considered incompatible with life) wrote his own letter to Lois Capps to finally be given a bed at the VA hospital in California! That should NEVER happen! What about all those who simply don't have the will of steal to face the redtape and continue battles? The battles they see on the homefront trying to get their benefits causes far more destruction then the battles fighting a war. At least in war you can recognize your enemy.

Sorry for the rant. I am so hurt and angered by this. Every single Vet deserves to be considered a priority! This sucks!


17 posted on 09/15/2003 7:30:45 AM PDT by MistyCA (For some...it's always going to be "A Nam Thing!")
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To: fight_truth_decay
To hell with the VA.

Why should I subject myself to nurses that talk down to me as though I were 12 years old?

Why should I place my care in the hands of a doctor that cannot even speak the english language?

Why should I have to beg and plead for treatment of a service-connected disability?

Why the hell should it be the least bit of hassle for me or for any other veteran?

I gave no hassle when it was time to fight the slly-ass, stinking little wars my government wanted me to fight. (Although, I have to admit, I had all that fun and got paid, too.)

Why do I get a hassle from the VA when I need them?

I'm fortunate, I have Tricare as a result of my retirement after 20. It costs me $480.00 per year, plus co-pay, but I get treated in quality civilian facilities, with nurses that genuinely care about me, by doctors that are able to explain my problem and treatment in the english language.

Yep, I'm disabled and I draw a disability pay, but I have give up a like amount of my retirement, so where's the "benefit"?

Like I said: To hell with the VA.

And to hell with the so-called recruitment value of someone such as me.

I would not, under any circumstances, encourage a young man to join the military, if he were basing such desires on the assumption that he would be taken care of if he were to become injured in the line of duty.

I was lied to and every soldier and potential recruit are lied to by recruiters.

But, in spite of all that, I'd give 'em another 20, if I were 20 years younger.

22 posted on 09/15/2003 12:04:50 PM PDT by OldSmaj
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To: fight_truth_decay
I'm an old Viet Nam lad, and have had copious dealings with the VA. To all on the thread, I understand you all.

One thing I learned from the VA and military medicine is to be skeptical about government controlled health care!

24 posted on 09/15/2003 12:34:23 PM PDT by Iris7
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""Let me tell you something," he says, "I’m going to do everything in my power, while I’m young now, to put money away. Because I have absolutely no faith in any kind of ability to receive benefits from the government when I’m older."

My sentiments exactly.

25 posted on 09/15/2003 1:05:43 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: fight_truth_decay
""Let me tell you something," he says, "I’m going to do everything in my power, while I’m young now, to put money away. Because I have absolutely no faith in any kind of ability to receive benefits from the government when I’m older."

My sentiments exactly.

26 posted on 09/15/2003 1:06:00 PM PDT by jjm2111
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""Let me tell you something," he says, "I’m going to do everything in my power, while I’m young now, to put money away. Because I have absolutely no faith in any kind of ability to receive benefits from the government when I’m older."

My sentiments exactly.

27 posted on 09/15/2003 1:06:28 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: fight_truth_decay; Bob J
"I did not feel proud about the results of our investigation, and I was not alone in that sentiment," he said in a press release announcing his new job at the NGWRC. "It seemed that everything we produced leaned away from helping the veteran."
I do NOT feel proud of this either. Meanwhile, illegal aliens are recieving goodies from our tax dollars. It is shameful. Bob J, this is a group WE need to contact across the US and work with closely.. What do you think?
37 posted on 09/15/2003 10:05:49 PM PDT by Libertina ("Leaders" cannot lead me without my consent. I, citizen, have power.)
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