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The Shining Moment (NY Times grudgingly agrees with National Book Foundation's Stephen King honor)

Posted on 09/16/2003 7:36:17 AM PDT by dead

When they call the roll of the great figures of modern American literature — Bellow, Miller, Morrison, Updike, Roth — they can now add a name: Stephen King.

Yes, the Stephen King who wrote "Carrie," "The Shining" and "Christine," not to mention "The Dark Tower" books, I through V. The National Book Foundation, which hands out the prestigious National Book Awards, has decided to bestow its annual medal for distinguished contribution to American letters on the man who bestowed pig's blood, homicidal jalopies and ax-wielding nurses on our libraries.

You're probably tempted, as we were at first, to work up a sputtering head of indignation about this . . . this . . . indignity. But hang on a second. Ray Bradbury got the medal in 2000, and while he can now be painted as a man who gave a popular genre a literary flair, were they saying that when "The Martian Chronicles" made its debut in 1950?

Mr. King will get his award at a ceremony where the host will be Steve Martin — remember him from the Oscars? And he will be feted by the same publishing world where Madonna is being touted as a children's book writer.

Mr. King has certainly contributed — a lot. The foundation's Web site claims the 70 films, television movies and miniseries made from his work as a Guinness world record. He has created a subgenre that is said to have drawn in readers who may otherwise not have been inclined to pick up a book at all. He has also done something that many other National Book Awardees have not done: made a pile of money. The publishing industry would very much like to figure out how he does it. As would we all.


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1 posted on 09/16/2003 7:36:17 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
The thing is, regardless of whether some snobs in the literary elite think his subject matter beneath their attention, Stephen King is a good writer.
2 posted on 09/16/2003 7:43:51 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: dead
"As would we all," sniffed the snobby New York Times.
3 posted on 09/16/2003 7:44:11 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: Prodigal Son
They put down King, yet act as if that typist Maya Angelou is the second coming of Shakespeare.
4 posted on 09/16/2003 7:46:06 AM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: GunsareOK
Their beach front summer homes only have 18 rooms. King's has 26.
5 posted on 09/16/2003 7:46:39 AM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: dead
Maya Angelou reads as if someone's cat or dog typed at random on the keyboard.
6 posted on 09/16/2003 7:57:27 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: Prodigal Son
The snobs treat Tom Clancy in the exact same way.

"If it's popular, it can't POSSIBLY be any good. . . "

7 posted on 09/16/2003 7:59:11 AM PDT by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Prodigal Son
"Stephen King is a good writer."

Yeah, but ever since I saw him and his wife marching in an anti-war movement while his wife was wearing a "Bush is a Terrorist" t-shirt i've gone right off all Steve-o.

8 posted on 09/16/2003 8:02:03 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Prodigal Son
Peter Straub, Dean Koontz and Clive Barker's earlier novels put little stevie to shame.
9 posted on 09/16/2003 8:08:54 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr
This, of course, is your opinion. For my money, Barker isn't a horror writer- his work (in my opinion) is more fantasy than horror. Fantasy with strong homosexual undercurrents at that. I never liked Koontz that much. I read the Watchers but couldn't really get into any of his others. I can see where some would prefer those writers to King but I think it's a bit of a stretch to say they put King to shame.
10 posted on 09/16/2003 8:22:20 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
"The thing is, regardless of whether some snobs in the literary elite think his subject matter beneath their attention, Stephen King is a good writer."

You are absolutely right. Despite his politics, I've read almost everything he has written.

In the past I liked clowns but, after reading It, I am now skeptical of them until I figure out their motives. ;o)

11 posted on 09/16/2003 8:22:31 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?)
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To: raybbr
Richard Matheson is a master of intelligently written scary tales. With screenplays for "Twilight Zone" and Corman's Poe movies, he also wrote some scary stuff like "Last Man on Earth" and "Hell House".
12 posted on 09/16/2003 8:27:22 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (kittens are only dangerous if you're a 'Rat.)
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To: dixiechick2000
In the past I liked clowns but, after reading It, I am now skeptical of them until I figure out their motives.

Here's a horror story. At an outdoor festival last weekend, PETA had a booth. One of the folks--I use the term loosely--at the booth had a T-Shirt that announced she was a member of "Clowns Against Animal Cruelty." Honest. I am not making that up.

She didn't try to hand me any balloons. But, like you, and since "It," I walk a wide circle around clowns. In particular, I don't take balloons from strange clowns.

13 posted on 09/16/2003 8:45:25 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker
"Clowns Against Animal Cruelty."

Yes...clowns are NOT to be trusted...
especially those with balloons.

Not to mention those pesky vampires or a certain 1958 Plymouth Fury...

14 posted on 09/16/2003 9:42:33 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?)
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To: dead
"...Bellow, Miller, Morrison, Updike, Roth "

Frankly, that is a list of the LEAST influencial most pompous self-important unreadable poops in literature today. To be fair, though, I haven't read Toni Morrison so I shouldn't include her in my description.

Steven King is not a great "writer" but he is one hell of a story teller and that at least is something that can't be said about the above list.

15 posted on 09/16/2003 9:53:54 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Pietro
I did read Toni Morrison's "Beloved" and it was really disturbing and haunting, as she intended.

She has real talent.

16 posted on 09/16/2003 1:42:10 PM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: dead
"She has real talent."

Thanks for the heads up. I think I have that book, I'll check it out.

17 posted on 09/16/2003 1:47:32 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: Prodigal Son
Have you read Weaveworld by Barker. No homo stuff but pretty intense.

King is overly loaquacious and boring. I have read a couple of his books and guess what? They all take place in Maine. If that isn't boring, what is?

I know it's just my opinion.

18 posted on 09/17/2003 4:04:06 AM PDT by raybbr
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Of course I've read Weaveworld. Much of Barker's homosexual symbology is very subtle. You'd be apt to miss it in Weaveworld but in Imajica, for instance, it is very overt. If you go back and read Barker with that in mind, you find a lot more. Much of his imagery is disturbing as well. He explores the perversions of his own soul through his writing. Think of some of the examples. In Rawhead Rex, we have one demon-like male character urinating into a male priest's mouth. In Imajica we have a grown male sodomizing a young boy (and he portrays the boy as begging for it). Gay characters having sex openly in fields- In the Hills, Cities. In one short story of note, the character is stricken with an affliction where he cannot govern his sexual urges- copulating with everything in sight including a man and a hole in a brick wall (I find that to be a not so subtle reference to the gay "Glory Holes").

In many of Barker's stories, the theme is a sort of transformation from one being to another- specifically at times, from one sex to another. It is as if he is portraying and trying to come to terms with his own sexuality- a man with the urges of the opposite sex- and at times this is very interesting and well done (reference the sexual organ of the Glyph in Imajica- it could be anything it needed to be to please any sex) but at times it is just vulgar (copulation with open wounds/injuries, with alien/demonic creatues, representation of homosexual fetishism, necrophilia etc). Clearly, his own mind is full of such images and it is difficult for me to divorce myself from this awareness when reading Barker's work. Like de Sade, the page is for Barker, a tool he uses to sop up the ejaculate of his inner torment. To his credit, he has picked a good genre with which to do this: horror/fantasy.

It doesn't matter to me whether you like King or not. I like Barker's writings. Never said I didn't. I just took issue with you saying he put King to shame. He has rich imagery but sometimes an overbearing manner of writing (Barker) that borders on the pretentious (although, admittedly, the man has a highly developed grasp of the English language).

King, however, has a better ability to capture what it is to be an American- something Barker would not be able to do because he is British. Some of King's best stuff doesn't even take place in Maine or if so only partially. The Shining- Colorado. The Stand- the entire US. The Dark Tower series. Eyes of the Dragon. Misery. The Talisman...

But I don't think the fact that many of his books are set in Maine should disqualify them. One of the first rules of being an effective writer is to "Write about what you know". King does that. He is from Maine, it makes sense that he should write about it. There's nothing wrong with Maine. Every place is boring if you get right down to it and every place has a rich life if you know where to look. A good writer can make a good story out of nothing and/or out of the most unassuming settings. One need not create new worlds or go to exotic places to explore the inner workings of the human heart.

For what it's worth, I hardly noticed that the Green Mile (for example) was set in Maine. Or that The Body (Stand By me) was. What was compelling about the tales were the stories of the characters themselves. I find it very easy to find a bit of myself or people I know in all of King's characters- this is what makes him a good writer. He makes his readers feel as though he is writing about them.

King's work could properly be included in that category of things labelled "Americana". He understands the American experience. It's part of him. He has a nostalgic generational appeal to baby boomers because that is the America in which he grew up and one that, sadly, has passed into history forever.

Plus, there is an entire body of work in film (memorable films at that) devoted to King's writings that illustrate his ability to produce a captivating story that translates well to visual imagery. I think if anything, when we take King's work and the films based upon it, he stands head and shoulders above just about everybody in contemporary fiction whether he is liked in all quarters or not. It is extremely hard to deny the impact King has had.

19 posted on 09/17/2003 4:52:01 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: raybbr
Peter Straub IS Stephan King.
20 posted on 09/17/2003 4:57:59 AM PDT by Unassuaged
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