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Why Natural Gas Prices are High
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| September 8, 2003
Posted on 09/16/2003 7:38:18 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"45 percent of the gas consumed in the US is by electric utilities"You talkin gasoline here? Or Natural Gas?
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:34:12 AM PDT
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SierraWasp
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To: biblewonk; BOBTHENAILER
I'm sure some eco-nuts would say that, but then when someone does try to put up some windmill farms, guess who complains the loudest about them? Such is the case in Oklahoma. I think their ultimate goal is to put a stop to all technology--and perhaps to civilization itself.
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:36:21 AM PDT
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MizSterious
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To: newgeezer
"Work Indignantly to Impede Development"Ok then, how 'bout Work Insanely to Nix Development (WIND)
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:38:42 AM PDT
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SierraWasp
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To: BOBTHENAILER
When the enviros oppose your group (WIND), can we say they're breaking wind? (ducking) (sorry for the pun, just couldn't help m'self...)
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:39:53 AM PDT
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MizSterious
(Support whirled peas!)
To: SierraWasp
Nat gas. $4.685 MM/BTUs yesterday's close. We have 500 years of Western coal, delivered to most any utility in the midwest for < $1 MM/BTUs.
To: Grampa Dave
The Watermelon Enviral Jihadists have been conducting economic and enviral terrorism on Americans for about two decades now. With the ultimate goal of reducing our standard of living to that of some sophisticated Euro-country, like France, where the energy supply is so good, that 15,000 of their elderly die of heat prostration, because they can't air condition their homes and apartments.
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:42:57 AM PDT
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BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
To: MizSterious; BOBTHENAILER; Grampa Dave
That was 2/3rds of a PUN! PU!!! (grin)
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:43:30 AM PDT
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SierraWasp
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To: newgeezer
But, at least you tried.
Work Indignantly to Negate Development
Thanks for your help on this worthy cause.
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:45:55 AM PDT
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BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
To: MizSterious
Kennedy is complaining the loudest on the East Coast and he's no environut. He's a carbohydrate nut.
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:48:53 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
To: MizSterious
can we say they're breaking wind? Of course. You're quick today.
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:49:12 AM PDT
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BOBTHENAILER
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To: SierraWasp
Work Insanely to Nix Development (WIND)
This is good!
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:52:58 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(May our brave warriors kill all of the Islamokazis/facists/nazis to prevent future 9/11's.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Gas prices are high because 45 percent of the gas consumed in the US is by electric utilities. This is wrong, wrong, wrong. Right on. And the tree huggers not only bottle up the supply of natural gas, they also insist that power generation be by natural gas. Well, Hells Bells does anybody wonder why our home heating bills are going through the roof?
To: Eric in the Ozarks; HamiltonJay
Gas prices are high because 45 percent of the gas consumed in the US is by electric utilities. This is wrong, wrong, wrong. You're both partially right. A good mix between coal and nat gas would be the best of both worlds, due to the abundant supply of both.
However, the opposition to nat gas drilling, seismic, etc., pales in comparison to that that would ERUPT should any serious efforts begin to both strip mine coal and construct coal fired plants.
Don't forget that Clinton placed our biggest and most high energy value coal deposits (anthracite) in Utah, off limits with the creation of the Escalante Wilderness area. A payoff to Indonesia's James Riaddy for campaign cash. Indonesia just happens to be our biggest importer of this high value coal, as I'm sure you both know.
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posted on
09/16/2003 8:57:52 AM PDT
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BOBTHENAILER
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To: Trust but Verify; Eric in the Ozarks
And the tree huggers not only bottle up the supply of natural gas, they also insist that power generation be by natural gas. Logical, ain't it. Kinda like the 9th Circuit saying the ballots which helped elect Davis are now not good enough for his recall.
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posted on
09/16/2003 9:00:56 AM PDT
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BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
To: BOBTHENAILER
Work Indignantly to Negate DevelopmentThat'd be great, if "development" was always a good thing, and "indignation" always bad.
By all means, keep trying. Steadfastness seems to be your strong suit.
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posted on
09/16/2003 9:09:36 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Some of us learn by trail and errror. ;-)
To: BOBTHENAILER
I have not forgotten the Utah monument, but coal is abundant and plentiful and scrubbers can take care of emissions... the move to Natural Gas for electricity generation was the dumbest policy move on the energy front in easily the last 100 years.
Coal is plentiful, cheap and available, even without the Utah monument, coal is hardly a hard to come by commodity. Gas prices have skyrocketed in the last 7 years completely by this horrible policy decision. These gas plants need to be shut down or converted ASAP.
To: BOBTHENAILER; Grampa Dave
Note the last sentence in this bulletin:
1:10PM Crude prices fall near a four-month low by Myra P. Saefong
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- Crude futures are trading at levels not seen since late May, with the October contract down 51 cents at $27.63 per barrel. The market's betting that the Energy Department and American Petroleum Institute will report a rise in crude inventories for the week ended Sept. 12. The reports are due Wednesday. October unleaded gasoline is also down 3.33 cents at 82.6 cents a gallon and October heating oil is at 73.6 cents a gallon, down 1.1 cents. October natural gas, however, is up 5 cents at $4.735 per million British thermal units.
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posted on
09/16/2003 10:22:03 AM PDT
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SierraWasp
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To: HamiltonJay
Coal is plentiful, cheap and available, coal is hardly a hard to come by commodity. These gas plants need to be shut down or converted ASAP.Best of luck trying to implement the above pipe dream.
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posted on
09/16/2003 10:40:36 AM PDT
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BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
To: SierraWasp
October natural gas, however, is up 5 cents at $4.735 per million British thermal units. Yup, been watching it all day. I'm looking for another 10-25 cent drop by the time thursday's storage report comes out. All in all, this has been a record year for prices.
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posted on
09/16/2003 10:50:09 AM PDT
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BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
To: newgeezer
Steadfastness seems to be your strong suit. I steadfastly oppose all enviro-whackos and solar/wind advocates.
You still like my strong suit?
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posted on
09/16/2003 10:53:15 AM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
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