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McCLINTOCK IS NO BUCHANAN!
September 17, 2003 | Joe Armendariz

Posted on 09/17/2003 2:56:19 PM PDT by Writesider

The always brilliant Hugh Hewitt has finally outdone himself in his pre-emptive war against the California gubernatorial candidacy of Tom McClintock. Let us forget, for just a moment, the ridiculous comparison made in his latest column, between Tom McClintock and Pat Buchanan. But he also seems to want to equate the re-election campaign of President George Herbert Walker Bush, circa 1992, with the (R)nold Inc. Gubernatorial campaign taking place today.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: buchanan; california; hewitt; hughhewitt; mcclintock; recall
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, I'm seeing something different, and that is Arnie taking charge and addressing some serious issue, unafraid of upon whose toes he steps. I see him making change that a normal politician couldn't. I see a potential ground swell of change, many festering issues drained, many compromises made, many hard steps taken and real and genuine progress made. Uniting across party lines for the common good, with respect and tolerance. I see it as an opportunity too good to miss. Some of the compromises might not be what rather, but that is the nature of compromise.

Hey, D1, why do I waste my time saying this, only to have evidence demanded of me?

21 posted on 09/17/2003 5:01:00 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: 68 grunt
Some of you seem oblivious to an inconvenient factoid; Legislative Republicans hold their Caucus meetings in a phone booth.

To hold McClintock responsible for not "accomplishing" anything, or lacking so-called successes, demonstrates a profound misunderstanding, with all due respect, of the political climate in Sacramento.

Finally, ponder this outrage; Davis may very well be the most Moderate Democrat in the entire statewide caucus.You can't compromise with them, they are political terrosists.
22 posted on 09/17/2003 5:07:27 PM PDT by Writesider
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To: Dog Gone
Have you noticed that the Democrats have been almost mute regarding McClintock and Schwarzenegger. I know that they are making comments, but most of them are geared toward what they themsleves do that will be lost if the others win. They just aren't going after them with the zeal I've seen in past elections. I wonder why? LOL

Cruz talks about what he has done. Davis does the same. Their spots don't even mention the other guys.

I personally think McClintock has been much more destructive to the conservative effort in this election than he'll ever understand. No Arnold is not a conservative on many issues. Does Tom think nobody realizes this? I know the guy means well, but we're in the process of going down in flames IMO.
23 posted on 09/17/2003 5:09:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Saundra Duffy
Tom McClintock is the only bona fide Republican in this race.

Actually he can't even get the support of the state or the national GOP. But I bet that's a plus to you.

Tom McClintock is the only pro life candidate.

20 years in politics and what has he done about his supposed pro-life beliefs?

He's the only pro 2nd Amendment candidate.

Again what has he done about his beliefs?

He's the most fiscally conservative, too.

He's also incapable of convincing others that a fiscally conservative policy is the best way to go.

I don't get it.

Here's a hint. McClintock is a career politician with zero accomplishments. He thinks he is some sort of genius on fiscal issues and doesn't give a rats ass about social issues other than to say what he is expected to say. In short, McClintock is a fast talking loser whose political record and political views don't match. Why should I vote for him?

24 posted on 09/17/2003 5:09:38 PM PDT by spam_bank
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To: 68 grunt
This is one we'll have to stick to our personal perceptions and hope that things play out favorable to our cause. We are presented with a problem and each of us is going to have to deal with it the best way we can. For me that Schwarzenegger. For others it may be to vote for McClintock and see Bustamante elected. Look, we'll have to deal with it if that's what comes of this. That's life.
25 posted on 09/17/2003 5:11:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Writesider
Oh man, I like your profile dealie!

What I'm seeing is a charismatic pulling the people with him and when we all pull things get done. I also see people of all stripes getting hip to the lies of the demoncraps. You must believe that I truly feel that this could be the beginning of a groundswell of positive change.

26 posted on 09/17/2003 5:20:43 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: DoughtyOne; All
If Arnold calls McClintock a decent man and is not calling McClintock to step down, why can't Arnold supporters follow Arnold's example and praise him while praising your own candidate? All the heat may be counterproductive to your goals and only serve to incite more folks to vote their conscience earlier than they ordinarily would.

What is the point of all the negativity???

[Obligatory sheesh.]

27 posted on 09/17/2003 5:26:27 PM PDT by SteveH ((Can't we all just GET ALONG!?! ;-))
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To: Saundra Duffy
The Shooting Star of (Liberal) Media


CLINTOCK

Gov. Top Gun: Tom Cruz!

Voter Guide paid for by Friends of MadClintock

28 posted on 09/17/2003 5:28:02 PM PDT by carbon14
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To: Writesider
I read your profile page too and I'm glad to have you around. My wife's family is old school Mexican immigrant. When her family came over two generations back, they slaved to the bone to establish themselves. Today the phone calls to LA County directors of nursing offices ask what services are provided if illegals just show up. The calls come from Mexico and are maternity related.

There's one thing on these people's minds. They want an ankor baby. With that baby comes the keys to the kingdom.

Look, I don't have a problem with immigrants, but I want that immigration run by the rules. When it is and people apply themselves, I'm as happy as can be to have them as neighbors and associates.

Thanks to you and your family contributions to our national fabric. Viva la USA... and Mexico too for that matter. I just wish it were a better neighbor.
29 posted on 09/17/2003 5:28:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: SteveH
If Arnold calls McClintock a decent man ...

What is the point of all the negativity???

Ah, has Tom called Arnold a decent man?

And in regard to the negativity, the exact same thing is also true of the other side. Why can't your come up with something original. We know your opinion.

30 posted on 09/17/2003 5:36:04 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: SteveH
Steve, when the voting started, this became a matter of record. This is it guy. We are electing Cruz Bustamante or Arnold Schwarzenegger to office. I'm not trying to be mean to Tom, but these are the facts. He knows what the numbers are. It was one thing to hang in there and hope for the best, but the guy needs to give some consideration to what we are faced with here. I know people disagree with me on principle, but the election is under way. We either pull together or rip ourselves apart.
31 posted on 09/17/2003 5:37:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: spam_bank
Mega BUMP!
32 posted on 09/17/2003 5:39:44 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: sixmil
Well said. I agree.
33 posted on 09/17/2003 5:40:03 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: spam_bank
That includes the ability to convince people, to listen to people, and to compromise.

What will Arnold compromise on if he gets into office? What concessions will he make? How do you expect to see him come ahead on deals with the Democrats?

34 posted on 09/17/2003 5:43:21 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: DoughtyOne
With Arnold's help, McClintock may yet be governor or a US Senator.

I'm curious. Why would Arnold support Tom for either office? Let's say Arnold wins the governorship because McClintock offers a gracious concession and his remaining support sweeps Arnold in. Given the current appointments on his own team, why wouldn't Arnold simply endorse someone more like himself for the Senate or for Governor in the future?

35 posted on 09/17/2003 5:49:06 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: spam_bank
Actually, Tom's argument for voiding the energy contracts is that they are NOT legally binding.

It's based on a conflict of interest of the negotiator for the state. California law is settled that contracts signed by such agents are legally unenforceable.
36 posted on 09/17/2003 5:49:23 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (A proud member of the McClintock Militia)
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To: spam_bank
Great post, I agree.
37 posted on 09/17/2003 5:49:44 PM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: spam_bank
And why should he mention Davis or Bustamante?

It's practically a given that those two suck, at least among the people willing to vote for a Republican, so he needs to make the case he's a better candidate than Arnold.

Being better than Davis and Cruz is considered a given.
38 posted on 09/17/2003 5:50:35 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (A proud member of the McClintock Militia)
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To: spam_bank
McClintock has explained these items. On the chance you're interested in the answers, unlike other anti-McClintock voices on these threads...

Void the energy contracts... totally unworkable because he can't just rip up a legally binding contract without spending years in lawsuits and risking the chance that utilities will simply cut off the power to California.

The contracts will be easily voided because he will stipulate to the conflict of interest involved by the prior administration's use of a representative in the negotiations with the energy companies being simultaneously a paid lobbyist for the energy industry. That immediately nullifies the contracts. Davis won't make that stipulation because it just provides one more example of how sleazy/incompetent he is.

3. Fix worker compensation 4. Cut funding to redundant agencies... 3 and 4 sound good but I can't see how he's going to it.

His plan is to put bills on these matters before the state legislature. If they don't act on them within 30 days, he'll use the initiative process to put each of the issues on the ballot for the people to vote on.

Sounds like a pretty good plan to me.

39 posted on 09/17/2003 5:51:25 PM PDT by william clark
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To: zbigreddogz; strela
Yah, your right. He isn't Buchannan. Tom McClintock might actually be sucessful at keeping a Republican out of power over a socialist, racist, machine politician like Bustamove.

Whereas, of course, Buchanan is the singularly unsuccessful socialist, racist, wannabe a machine politician.

;)

40 posted on 09/17/2003 5:54:24 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Just a mudblood RINO)
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