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Giant rodent astonishes science
BBC ^ | 18 September, 2003 | Jonathan Amos

Posted on 09/18/2003 2:19:43 PM PDT by demlosers

The fossil remains of a gigantic rodent that looked something like a monster guinea pig have been identified by scientists in Venezuela.

The 700-kilogram beast - about the size of a buffalo - lived among the reeds and grasses of an ancient river system that threaded its way into the Caribbean Sea eight million years ago.

Researchers think the creature, which was 10 times as big as today's largest rodents, could have run in huge packs.

Evidence suggests it also had to dodge the constant attentions of super-sized crocodiles and carnivorous birds, which stood three metres tall.

The biggest

The discovery of "Guinea-zilla", as some have already dubbed it, is reported in the journal Science.

The remains were pulled out of brown shale and coal beds at the town of Urumaco, 400 kilometres west of Caracas.

Researchers from Venezuela, the US and Germany were involved in the discovery. The lead author on the Science paper is Dr Marcelo Sanchez-Villagra of Germany's University of Tubingen.

The rodent would have been
in and out of the water

"Urumaco was a place of giants eight million years ago," he said. "The world's largest turtle - three metres long - was found there. It had some of the largest crocs ever seen and there are undescribed fish that were also three metres long."

The new rodent has been given the scientific name Phoberomys pattersoni, after a pioneering palaeontologist who worked in the region in the 1970s, Professor Brian Patterson.

Fossil profile

The weight of P. pattersoni substantially exceeds that of today's biggest rodent, the 50-kg capybara.

P. pattersoni would have been about three metres long and just over metre tall.

A great river system once ran through Urumaco Dr Sanchez-Villagra said it had long ever-growing teeth - its incisors would have been about 20 centimetres from root to tip - housed in a skull that was twice as long as a capybara's.

Its grinding teeth probably helped the animal dine on sea grasses growing amongst the brackish lagoons and inlets of its wetland habitat.

"It was probably semi-aquatic, spending some time in the water and some of the time on land - just like the capybara," Dr Sanchez-Villagra said.

"And because it spent so much time in the water, its eyes were probably more dorsal - higher on the head than say a rat. Its jaw was also deeper than a rat's which is quite pointed."

Continental drainage

Although it may have been distantly related to today's guinea pig (Cavia porcella), with hind quarters and rear legs larger and more powerful than its smaller forelimbs, the beast would have dwarfed its modern cousin which normally weighs about a kilo.

"And of course the guinea pig doesn't have the robust tail we know this creature had," Dr Sanchez-Villagra said.

The 90%-complete Guinea-zilla remains were actually discovered in 2000. But scientists have held back from a formal classification of the animal until now because they wanted to compare the fossil with a second specimen with more extensive skull features.

Scientists believe a once mighty river system - the Paleo-Oronoco-Amazon - moved through the Urumaco area carrying water from the interior of the Southern American continent north-east to the ocean.

Other fossils found at Urumaco support this idea and illustrate what a lush landscape this now arid part of Venezuela must have been towards the end of the Miocene Epoch. Nowhere to run

But that rich biodiversity may have brought the rodent trouble in the form of other, spectacularly big creatures.

These animals, such as lion-sized marsupial cats, could have played a part in the eventual demise of P. pattersoni, believes Professor Neill Alexander, of the University of Leeds, UK.

A great river system once
ran through Urumaco

"Predation would certainly have been a factor," said the expert in the mechanics animal movement.

"Being so big it would not have been able to run into a burrow and hide. And the problem with being a really big rodent is that you are slower than the competition; you are vulnerable unless you are somewhere where the predators aren't too fast either."

Commenting on the discovery, Science journal's International's Managing Editor, Dr Andrew Sugden, said P. pattersoni would have a major impact on our understanding of evolution in South America.

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"The first rodents appeared about 40 to 50 million years ago," he said. "Rodents are now the most diverse group of mammals with more than 2,000 species; 40% of all mammalian species.

"And they also have a huge size range - over ten orders of magnitude. But at a stroke this new fossil stretches this size range by more than another order of magnitude and reshapes our view of the evolution of these animals."

South America intrigues scientists because until the emergence of a land-bridge (the Panamanian isthmus) connecting it to Central and North America about three million years ago, the landmass had been isolated for tens of millions of years.

Its plants and animals developed in isolation to the rest of the world's flora and fauna. And although palaeontologists have made many amazing discoveries recently in countries like Argentina, the northern fringes of South America have not been so well studied.

"This fossil fauna from Urumaco in north-western Venezuela opens a new chapter in the history of biodiversity for that region," Dr Sugden said.



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I don't think the RATS have gotten too small:


1 posted on 09/18/2003 2:19:44 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers
Wynona's Really Big Brown Beaver.
3 posted on 09/18/2003 2:25:52 PM PDT by martin_fierro (There are no dumb questions -- just lots of inquisitive knuckleheads)
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To: demlosers
Man.. the exercise wheel for that thing....
4 posted on 09/18/2003 2:26:50 PM PDT by Darksheare (Ever try surfing FR while sitting upside down? Not for the soft of head, sorry DUers.)
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Giant rodent astonishes science

A.K.A. Rodan-t


5 posted on 09/18/2003 2:29:02 PM PDT by martin_fierro (There are no dumb questions -- just lots of inquisitive knuckleheads)
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To: demlosers
Looks like a giant Nutria to me.
6 posted on 09/18/2003 2:29:08 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Stay out of debt. Pay cash. When you run out of cash, stop buying things.)
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"Giant rodent astonishes science"

I thought this was another Ted Kennedy thread.
7 posted on 09/18/2003 2:29:09 PM PDT by tractorman
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8 posted on 09/18/2003 2:29:21 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: demlosers
,,, here's a giant rodent ------->

9 posted on 09/18/2003 2:31:57 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: demlosers
Here it is:


10 posted on 09/18/2003 2:35:48 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: demlosers
While I hesitate, trying to decide WHICH Dem's pic to post here....
11 posted on 09/18/2003 2:39:04 PM PDT by ChemistCat (I have two daughters. I know peacemaking. What we're doing in Israel ain't it.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
AAAAIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

My eyes, my eyes!
12 posted on 09/18/2003 2:39:56 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: demlosers
This is yet another proof for my theory of evolution - as I predicted in ca. 15 Mio. years humans will be the size of rats.
13 posted on 09/18/2003 2:40:43 PM PDT by Truth666
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"The fossil remains of a gigantic rodent that looked something like a monster guinea pig have been identified by scientists in Venezuela."

A new symbol for the Democrat party?

14 posted on 09/18/2003 2:41:31 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: demlosers
Democrats have gotten too small? The giant rodent is extinct? Well, obviously you don't live in Massachusetts! Here are a couple hanging out down by the Charles.





15 posted on 09/18/2003 2:41:34 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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The 'RATS already became extinct and come back to run for national office ?? ...

16 posted on 09/18/2003 2:42:05 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Helen Thomas looks a little like Madeline Albright passing a grapefruit.
17 posted on 09/18/2003 2:43:43 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: ElkGroveDan
LOL !!

18 posted on 09/18/2003 2:45:04 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: demlosers
Princess Buttercup ... "Westley, what about the ROUS's?"
Westley ... "Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist."

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19 posted on 09/18/2003 2:48:59 PM PDT by MalcolmS (Post Like A Pirate Day: Sept 19. Arrrr Matey!)
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20 posted on 09/18/2003 2:50:16 PM PDT by GunnyHartman
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