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Walter Cronkite: U.S. battles terror with a touch of the Spanish Inquisition
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^
| September 19, 2003
| Walter Cronkite
Posted on 09/19/2003 9:52:29 AM PDT by jdege
Walter Cronkite: U.S. battles terror with a touch of the Spanish Inquisition
Walter Cronkite, King Features Syndicate
Published September 19, 2003
President Bush's televised answer to the growing concerns of many -- including some Republicans -- about the powers granted to him in the USA Patriot Act was to ask for even stronger measures, particularly the expanded use of "nonjudicial subpoenas." That means a federal agency such as the FBI can write its own subpoenas to conduct a search -- no judges needed.
Unfortunately, security and liberty form a zero-sum equation. The inevitable trade-off: To increase security is to decrease liberty and vice versa.
[...]
In his 2 1/2 years in office, Attorney General John Ashcroft has earned himself a remarkable distinction as the Torquemada of American law.
Tomas de Torquemada, you might recall, was the 15th-century Dominican friar who became the grand inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition. He was largely responsible for its methods, including torture and the burning of heretics -- Muslims in particular.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ashcroft; patriotact; waltercronkite
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The left is clearly going 'round the bend...
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posted on
09/19/2003 9:52:30 AM PDT
by
jdege
To: jdege
What an idiot. Go fight windmills in your backyard moron and leave defending the country to the sane people.
To: jdege
The Spanish Inquisition? No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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posted on
09/19/2003 9:58:03 AM PDT
by
Marc Poor
To: jdege
I am not accusing the attorney general of pulling out anyone's fingernails or burning people at the stake (at least I don't know of any such cases).
At least Walter is being fair.
It never fails to amaze me how ignorant people are. His comparison of the Ashcroft Justice Department to the Spanish Inquistion is like something from a Monty Python skit.
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posted on
09/19/2003 9:58:11 AM PDT
by
sharpink
To: jdege
I agree with Walter. It's terrible that we criminalized over a million people, rounded them up and detained them -- all in a time of war. Oh, he wasn't talking about FDR. Sorry. ;-)
To: jdege
Tomas de Torquemada, you might recall, was the 15th-century Dominican friar who became the grand inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition. He was largely responsible for its methods, including torture and the burning of heretics -- Muslims in particular. Ohhh, yes, NOW I see the connection!
No, Walt, you aren't biased at all... you are also not an impressive intellect. A first year college student learns how to analyze argument, and declare it sound or unsound. Your argument is unsound.
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posted on
09/19/2003 9:59:02 AM PDT
by
Lunatic Fringe
(This tag line has been intentionally left blank.)
To: All
HMMM Maybe we should give Walter the COMFY CHAIR!!!
To: jdege
Crockite reports the "news" with the touch of Goebels
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:00:36 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: jdege
Is Walter the only one in the world who doesn't know he has no remaining credibility?
To: Marc Poor
I didn't expect the bloody Spanish Inquisition.
To: Marc Poor
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:01:17 AM PDT
by
SauronOfMordor
(Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
To: jdege
Cronkite has more than a touch of 'Grand Inquisitor' about him.
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:01:44 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: Charles Henrickson; SauronOfMordor
ROFLMAO - Great minds think alike!!! :-)
To: jdege
The Spanish Inquisition was part of the Reconquista of the Iberian penninsula from the Islamic invaders. It was a political tool of King Ferdinand used to meet his goal of rooting out Muslem infiltrators and insuring the peace and stability of his kingdom. It was fantastically successful towards that goal. Given our current need to root out Muslim infiltrators who seek to harm the peace and stability of our nation, it sounds like a good model to emulate.
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:05:32 AM PDT
by
Flying Circus
(orthodoxy requires orthopraxy)
To: areafiftyone
"Now -- you will stay in the Comfy Chair until lunch time,
with only a cup of coffee at eleven."
To: jdege
Cronkite is turning into an effeminate version of Molly Ivins. Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen them in the same room together? Hmmmmm........Perhaps the sound of windmills offshore has turned him into a liberal Don Quixote, slashing at imaginary enemies.
In his 2 1/2 years in office, Attorney General John Ashcroft has earned himself a remarkable distinction as the Torquemada of American law.
Then by the same reasoning, Clinton was the Zippy the Appeasement Pimp of the White House.
Why does Cronkite blame Ashcroft for having to wipe up after Clinton's kowtowing to terrorists for eight years?
To: jdege
He was largely responsible for its methods, including torture and the burning of heretics -- Muslims in particular. Bull$#!t!!! The Inquisition only applied to baptized Christians. The Jews and the Muslims were expelled from the country. The only Muslems who would be subject to the Inquisition would be those claiming to be Christian... and they were likely to be doing so for nefarious purposes. If Muslems are persecuted, it is only because their Jihad mindset makes them try to exterminate or subjugate all non-muslems around them.
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:14:19 AM PDT
by
Flying Circus
(orthodoxy requires orthopraxy)
To: jdege
I am fearful of the rats getting back in the White House with compromised civil liberties in regard to the Second and Fourth Amendments. Congratulations on excellent work on right to carry.
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:17:07 AM PDT
by
neverdem
(Say a prayer for New York)
To: jdege
Who is this Walter Cronkite guy?
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:17:41 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
To: jdege
The title of this should be
Walter Cronkite battles senility with a touch of historical fantasy.
Wally, come now. John Aschroft is as bad as Torquemada? The FBI is the Inquisition? Methinks there's a bit too much hyper in your hyperbole.
First off, you ancient vat of toxic liberal fluid, American interrogators doesn't torture anyone. If we hand people who don't want to talk to us back to their host nation, where they'll be tortured, what's the problem? Most countries routinely torture the bejezus out of their more rebellious citizens, a fact that in decades of news reporting I'm sure you stumbled across. How is that America's responsibility? More to the point, how does that make us worse than them? Or equal to the Inquisition?
At any rate, this shrill screaming about the 'unprecedented loss of freedoms' is absurd. Crack a history book, Wally, and you'll note that America has done far, far worse in the last 150 years. The whole premise of this article, and the line of reasoning behind it, is petty and uninformed.
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:19:00 AM PDT
by
Steel Wolf
(Too close for guns, switching to missiles!)
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