California Student Wants To Start "Caucasian Club"

Knight Ridder ^ | September 19, 2003

[mrobison]

OAKLEY, Calif. - Freedom High School officials say they will not make any decision on a proposed Caucasian Club until freshman Lisa McClelland meets necessary application requirements, including finding an adviser and drawing up a club constitution.

The 15-year-old met with Principal Eric Volta briefly Thursday morning for an informal discussion about the club and her well-being, Volta said.

``I talked to her about the process and made sure she was OK emotionally,'' Volta said. ``We talked about the purpose of the club. The school's not opposed to cultural clubs and hasn't been, obviously. We'll see where she takes it from here.''

Lisa is pushing for a Caucasian Club in an effort, she says, to break down racial barriers while embracing European American heritage. Lisa said she hopes her club, like the Black Student Union and Latinos Unidos on campus, is seen as a haven for those who don't fit into such categories even though all clubs at Freedom are open to everyone.

``I think we're doing something good that needed to be done a long time ago,'' Lisa said. ``With everything going on now, I'm just 100 percent more motivated to keep it going.''

[mrobison]

You go girl!

[camas]

go for it

[caisson71]

The principal wanted to meet with her to see if she was "OK emotionally"? I wonder if the Blacks and Latinos had the same meeting? I also want to know how "inclusive" the Black Student Union or Latinos Unidos clubs are at school.

[A CA Guy]

Already posted two days ago.

[A CA Guy]

I take that back, might have been the same topic in another state.

[vikingcelt]

Nope, it's the same topic in the same place...Oakley, California. Unbelievable to me. I grew up in Brentwood just a few miles from Oakley...Oakley was just a few hundred people them. Does anyone else find it absolutely amazing that it is such major news when Caucasians want to freely associate with one another? I find it absolutely, totally mind boggling.

[BonnieJ]

When I attended a California university there was a club called "Ori-Oxi" and it was composed of Orientals & caucasians. I went to a couple of meetings with a Japanese friend...it was about 90% "Ori"! But ethnic clubs have been around for a long time now, what's the problem with one just for caucasians.

[A CA Guy]

It's news because this is whites looking for equal rights in a way and for many minority minded, white always = kkk which would be their own prejudice and not the truth.

It's a good thing.

[Puppage]

Is it any different than 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement, the group of NYC policemen? Oh, wait......things of this nature only go ONE WAY!

[mrobison]

My thoughts, too. Why did her emotional state become an issue? Because she's proud she's white?

[Frohickey]

Do it.

Just have a more generous membership requirement, such as anyone with a brain. ;)

I remember a college friend of mine suggest that we start a 'white' engineering club at our school. There was Society of Women Engineers, National Society of Black Engineers, and other engineering groups. All of us said yes. There was 2 whites, 3 chinese, 2 filipinos, 1 iranian, and one hispanic, and all of us said it was a good idea.

[cadillac cowboy]

"Lisa is pushing for a Caucasian Club in an effort, she says, to break down racial barriers"

and

The 15-year-old met with Principal Eric Volta briefly Thursday morning for an informal discussion about the club and her well-being, Volta said. ``I talked to her about the process and made sure she was OK emotionally,'' Volta said

And me having a family of Polish ancestry is of course =  to mental instability.....as expected.......

[NewRomeTacitus]

This doesn't fit the liberal agenda of guilt and self-loathing at all. Maybe Feinstein or Pelosi can drop by with some pointers.

[Happy2BMe]

Girl Wants To Start Caucasian Club At High School

POSTED: 8:41 a.m. EDT September 18, 2003

OAKLEY, Calif. -- Lisa McClelland says she isn't a racist. She says her campaign for a Caucasian Club at her California high school is a move toward diversity, not bigotry.

 SURVEY

Should a California high school student be allowed to start a Caucasian Club?

Yes, if there are other clubs like the Black Student Union and Asian Club she should be allowed to.

No. There should be no clubs targeting any ethnic group.

No. Only minorities should be able to have clubs targeting an ethnic group.

Results  |  Disclaimer

She says everyone is invited -- and nobody will be excluded.

McClelland's ethnic background includes American Indian, Hispanic, Dutch, German, Italian and Irish. She says she and her friends feel slighted by other clubs at Freedom High School in Oakley, such as the Black Student Union and the Asian Club.

McClelland says she's collected 245 signatures of support from students, adults and others since announcing her plans three weeks ago.

One person who won't be signing up is Darnell Turner, first vice president of the local chapter of the NAACP. Turner says he thinks the club will create racial tension.

Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or red

Survey is HERE

[Happy2BMe]

Should a California high school student be allowed to start a Caucasian Club?
Choice	Votes	Percentage of 38735 Votes
Yes, if there are other clubs like the Black Student Union and Asian Club she should be allowed to.	32459	84%
No. There should be no clubs targeting any ethnic group.	5336	14%
No. Only minorities should be able to have clubs targeting an ethnic group.	940	2%

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Isn't it interesting that in some parts of the country (therefore some public schools) caucasians are numerically in the minority. So when does it flip around so as the majority then should be entitled with minority priveleges?

[Happy2BMe]

Caucasians are already the minority in California.

And in large parts of Florida, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona.

The rest of the nation will catch up in approximately twenty years.

PS: The fastest growing religion in the United States is Islam.

[P.O.E.]

[Jorge]

Cool. Now let's watch the NAACP, Jesse Jackson and all the other racist hypocrites throw a tantrum.

[Frank_2001]

Good question...could be a subtle implication that someone who starts up a club for Caucasians (as opposed to one for Blacks or Latinos) might be a little "off the rails" and a candidate for intervention or sensitivity training/sarcasm off

[Kay Soze]

Yes but a black club ( naacp) is insisiting its racist!

[nathanbedford]

Yes, if there are other clubs like the Black Student Union and Asian Club she should be allowed to.

Why should caucasians' rights of free association be dependent on the vagaries of other groups electing to (or electing not to) exercise their rights of free association?

[Happy2BMe]

"Why should caucasians' rights of free association be dependent on the vagaries of other groups electing to (or electing not to) exercise their rights of free association?"

There is an answer to this question. It's called Social Engineering.

"The question is or at least ought to be, how can such a small, godless, minority have such influence over our courts and legislative processes?"

Answer:

U.S. Supreme Court, 2003 - The Oligarchy*

Back Row (left to right): Ginsburg, Souter, Thomas, Breyer
Front Row (left to right): Scalia, Stevens, Rehnquist, O'Connor, Kennedy

ol·i·gar·chy
Pronunciation: 'ä-l&-"gär-kE, 'O-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -chies
Date: 1542
1 : government by the few
2 : a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes; also : a group exercising such control
3 : an organization under oligarchic control

[FITZ]

So when does it flip around so as the majority then should be entitled with minority priveleges?

You'd be amazed. Here the hispanics are well over 80% and growing --- but they still insist that they have "minority rights" and should be given preference in jobs and scholarships. Once you get that minority label, it seems you never want to let go --- it gets you way too many benefits. Most of the whites are leaving town.

[FITZ]

major news when Caucasians want to freely associate with one another

The big irony --- if she really gets this club going is that all the others will be trying to get into it. Just like you see white, black, hispanic neighborhoods, the only one that people sue to get into are the white neighborhoods. We see even see black and hispanic beauty pageants but you don't see whites trying to get into those ---- but there isn't an all-white one allowed anywhere.

[Jim Noble]

Isn't it interesting that in some parts of the country (therefore some public schools) caucasians are numerically in the minority. So when does it flip around so as the majority then should be entitled with minority priveleges?

Never, because the "privileges" in question are not extended to groups because they are minorities.

They are extended because the groups in question are not white.

Even in a school where ther are only two white kids left they're still-white.

[narses]

Culture War ping.

[nathanbedford]

Do you see clearly the pinched visage in the upper left corner? That, sir, is "Ruthie Remidies," as we knew her in the '60s; she had better legs then but the face is genau so unyielding.

She was an extreme leftist then who gained her ascendency, as did one of her students named Hazel O'leary, through identity politics.

Strange, there was no fillibuster against her confirmation.

[Happy2BMe]

" That, sir, is "Ruthie Remidies," as we knew her in the '60s; she had better legs then but the face is genau so unyielding."

Yes, and she has "SOCIAL ENGINEER" written in the center of her forehead.

[gitmo]

I thought I heard on The Rush Limbaugh Show that the NAACP was suing to prevent this club from being formed. They were claiming the purpose was to discriminate against blacks.

[Happy2BMe]

"You'd be amazed. Here the hispanics are well over 80% and growing --- but they still insist that they have "minority rights" and should be given preference in jobs and scholarships."

Spent a week at several Miami resorts this summer.

At one, the ENTIRE STAFF was Cuban. (I thought it was neat.) They spoke 95% of the time in spanish.

One day, a Miami-Dade building safety inspector came in the front door (while I was sitting in the lobby) and met the general manager for an inspection.

The (county-paid) building inspector was in an official uniform, shirt, pants, huge badge on his chest, etc.

NOT ONE WORD of English was spoken during their entire conversation.

Heheh... minority? What minority?

[fightu4it]

California Student Wants To Start "Caucasian Club"

Yes, why don't we all play the Democrat's game of Race and Class warfare? Then we can all be democraps!

[TradicalRC]

I do not have a problem with anyone who has gotten over their misguided white guilt. And I recognize that the implicit ideology behind most of the leftist propaganda in the culture wars is that whitey is the locus of all historical evils. That said, I recognize that clubs and organizations have always formed around minorities, but they were usually ethnic oriented and had more to do with a common culture. These clubs are based on race, not culture. I think that that is an important difference to mention.

Unfortunately, I do not see much of a choice left for descendants of European immigrants as they are being demonized by liberal intelligentsia as well as some in the various minority coomunities.

I fervently hope for the day when we can see each other as persons instead of members of a particular race.

There is a richness to be found in culture that is absent from the shallow water of identity politics.

[mrobison]

We are playing the Democrats game of Race and Class warfare every time we give in to the fear that we will be "punished" if we start something like a Caucasian Club.

[MikeD]

Did anyone else see the interview with her on CNN last night? I caught it at the airport. I don't know if she was just camera shy, but she appeared dumb as a brick. Usually the people who pull these things off have some pizazz or something. She looked like she had been put up to forming the club by someone else.

MD

[freedumb2003]

but she appeared dumb as a brick. Usually the people who pull these things off have some pizazz or something. She looked like she had been put up to forming the club by someone else.

I agree that she is pretty wierd and not very articulate -- but that might actually work in her favor. If she looked like Buffy and Muffy then the Left could use that as a lever that this is elitism (and muddy the picture)

Sometimes people who are too dumb to know they can't do something do it anyway. Simple people tend to think in simple terms (look at the Left). So the nuances and complexities that might slow others down didn't affect her. There is something to seeing A=B=C (Black Clubs, Latino Clubs and Asian Clubs=Ethnic Clubs are OK, therefore Caucasian Ethnic Clubs are OK).

I cringe when I see her but it will be so fun watching the Jacksons and Bystamantes of the world hoisted on their own petard.

[mrobison]

"She looked like she had been put up to forming the club by someone else."

Maybe the KKK?

[Jim Noble]

Strange, there was no fillibuster against her confirmation

It is interesting that Clinton was able to appoint the most radical leftists like Ginsburg and Souter (oops!)...

It is interesting that radical leftists never get outed by the GOP, wheter in the majority or minority, while mainstream judges like Estrada get Borked.