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LATEST CA RECALL POLL: Bustamante 28%, Schwarzenegger 26%, McClinitock 14%
Public Policy Institute via RealClearPolitics ^ | Sept. 20, 2003 | Public Policy Institute

Posted on 09/21/2003 10:57:58 AM PDT by FairOpinion

At the Real Clear Politics (link I gave above) site they have a summary of all the CA poll, this is the lastest, didn't see it posted, didn't see it in any news articles either.

Right at the summary they have a link to the 35 page pdf detailed poll of PPI. The PPI poll was taken Sept. 8 to 17th.

Davis recall: 53% yes, 42% no.

Among the candidate, Bustamante is ahead Schwarzenegger by 2%, while McClintock is syphoning away 14% of the votes from Schwarzenegger.

Bustamante 28%

Schwarzenegger 26%

Mcclintock 14%

The combined AS & TMc vote wout be a sure winner, beating Bustamante by a decisive margin: 42% Schwarzenegger, 28% Bustamante.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bustamante; california; davis; mcclintock; polls; recall; schwarzenegger
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Looks like Governor Bustamante, thanks to those who claim to be McC supporters, when in fact they are working for Bustamante, just as surely, as if they were wearing Gov. Bustamante signs on their foreheads.
1 posted on 09/21/2003 10:57:59 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
EXACTLY. I am a political consultant. I am told internal Arnold AND Cruz polls show McClintock polling around 10-11%. And our poll of self-named, likely voting "Conservatives" show that McClintock has LOST 4 POINTS among this group because of the Indian Mafia Scandal. Tom has peaked and is sinking fast. But because all internal polls show Arnold and Cruz NECK AND NECK, McClintock can only be a spoiler.

Truly a sad state of affairs for the GOP if Tom stays in this thing. Otherwise pools show Arnold wins by 10-16 pts (the higher figure anticipating a large undecided swing to Arnold once he is the sole GOP candidate).

2 posted on 09/21/2003 11:06:29 AM PDT by montag813
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To: FairOpinion
Maybe Cruz can make Tom Lt Gov and they can work together for Indian Casinos.
3 posted on 09/21/2003 11:08:18 AM PDT by byteback (Don't vote for a proven loser)
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To: montag813
"Tom has peaked and is sinking fast."
4 posted on 09/21/2003 11:08:30 AM PDT by CheneyChick (Kah-lee-fohr-nyah)
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To: montag813
A non-existent scandal hyped as a smokescreen for Arnold's hustling of money from people to whom the State owes money.

The real spoiler is the people who will give Karl Rove what he wants and vote no on the recall at the last minute because either Bustamante or Arnold would otherwise win. Arnold's candidacy will then have been successful.
5 posted on 09/21/2003 11:10:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
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Wow. Who knew?
6 posted on 09/21/2003 11:10:23 AM PDT by CheneyChick (Kah-lee-fohr-nyah)
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To: FairOpinion
This has been posted already, several times.

And you've been spewing the same crap for weeks now.

Arnold is a liberal. The fact you can't seem to grasp that thought, doesn't make it less true. Its a fact!

Tom McClintock is a bonafide conservative, without a hint of any scandal in his background and you Arnoldnuts are trashing him at every opportunity with insults and smear tactics. Instead you latch onto a Hollywood liberal, who hasn't displayed any knowledge of the issues and has proven in the last month, he's an empty suit when it comes to playing in the political arena. Arnold does nothing to advance the conservative agenda and the GOP platform. Nothing!

7 posted on 09/21/2003 11:10:48 AM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: montag813
And our poll of self-named, likely voting "Conservatives" show that McClintock has LOST 4 POINTS among this group because of the Indian Mafia Scandal.

Gurgle...... Gurgle....... Gurgle.......

while the Morongo Band of Mission Indians has put $470,000 into an independent expenditure committee for GOP state Sen. Tom McClintock.

8 posted on 09/21/2003 11:12:33 AM PDT by deport (Man with one clock knows the time..... man with two clocks doesn't know the time)
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To: montag813
As a political consultant, could I get your opinion of the analysis I posted on this thread, at posts #483 and 488? I've gotten little response from the Anti-Arnold folks.

Thanks.

9 posted on 09/21/2003 11:14:34 AM PDT by Long Cut (Even in Summertime, Iceland is COLD!)
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To: FairOpinion; RGSpincich; DoctorZIn; onyx; Tamsey; DoughtyOne; strela; PhiKapMom; nopardons; ...
And before the "principled conservative" mantras start: "voting your conscience", are McC supporters aware that McC not only didn't fight the Domestic Partner's bill, Davis just signed, but he didn't even bother to vote on it, which of course is equivalent to him having voted yes.

http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=ab_205&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen

How come Tom didn't bother to vote his conscience on this bill?

What good are Tom's "beliefs", if they are not backed by actions.

The difference in philosophies between Arnold and Tom are the stand on gay issues and right to life -- where Arnold is against partial birth abortion.

Now we see, that Tom wouldn't do anything about either of these issues, so we can take these issues off the table.

If we take these issues off the table, what we see, is that we have two candidates, both fiscally conservatives.

Arnold CAN beat Bustamante, he has double the votes Tom has 2 weeks before the race, Arnold has been endorsed by 33 of 34 Republican County Chairmen, Several conservative organizations, many prominent conservative Republicans, business organizations. Arnold is a self made businessman, a REAL Republican, a leader, not a politician, he campaigned for Bush I, and would be an asset for President Bush, and most importantly Arnold CAN turn CA around -- that is why he is getting so much support from, as mentioned above.

On the other hand, McC, by his own admission has spent 20 years fighting "the Republican Establishment", NOT the Democrats, is playing footsie with Bustamante, "THE" enemy, by his own admission would rather have Bustamante elected, than Arnold, is taking money from Bustamante supporters (Indian tribes, who clearly are giving it to him, not to support him, but to make sure Bustamante wins). If these are the actions of a "true Republican", then Clinton is a Republican.

Thinks about your vote carefully!
10 posted on 09/21/2003 11:15:14 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
A Vote for McClintock is a Vote for Bustamante!"
11 posted on 09/21/2003 11:16:59 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("All liberty flows from the barrel of a gun")
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I'm still waiting to see a list of Tom's major accomplishments in politics, since he's so experienced. While his stated values are commendable, it doesn't mean he'd be a potent Governor. I'm serious: what great things has he done? How has he been able to influence change thus far in his political career?
12 posted on 09/21/2003 11:20:26 AM PDT by CheneyChick (Kah-lee-fohr-nyah)
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To: Reagan Man
i have a question: If Schwarzenegger is indeed the rabid, far-left socialist he is painted as, why does he not simply run as a liberal Democrat? Surely, he would gain many Democrat votes, as well as acclaim and $$$ from the Hollywood set as "one of their own" (which he DOES NOT have now, most have denounced him). When the recall started, there were four Republicans in the race and no Democrats until Busta jumped in, and Schwarzenegger could have easily steamrolled him.

Why, then, in your opinion, would he run as a Republican, surely an anathema to him if he is as you say. Why then remain a Republican for twenty years, and speak at the GOP conventions every four years?

13 posted on 09/21/2003 11:21:13 AM PDT by Long Cut (Even in Summertime, Iceland is COLD!)
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To: Long Cut
Excellent question.
14 posted on 09/21/2003 11:22:37 AM PDT by Lita
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To: FairOpinion
Looks like Governor Bustamante, thanks to those who claim to be McC supporters, when in fact they are working for Bustamante, just as surely, as if they were wearing Gov. Bustamante signs on their foreheads.

True words! Additionally, they are not content to waste their own vote, but return continually, only to continue their vapid spittle, again and again. To divide! To leave our party in shambles! If Arnie doesn't win, its byebye republican party in aztlan. I'm not worried, however, Arnie is going to make a great governor, regardless of the disruptor's efforts.

15 posted on 09/21/2003 11:30:00 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: Reagan Man
Tom McClintock is a bonafide conservative

Should read "Tom McClintock is a bonafide conservative loser".

16 posted on 09/21/2003 11:31:25 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (recycling is a waste of time for hardworking taxpayers, hire the homeless to sort garbage)
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To: montag813
I am a political consultant.

Get a real job.

17 posted on 09/21/2003 11:33:05 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Lita
In some of the interviews with Tom McClintock that I have heard, he did not show himself well.

Tom McClintock is clearly a conservative. However, it seems as though he has a personal beef with Arnold Schwartzenegger rather than a poltical difference.

It is almost as if Tom McClintock wants to make this a personal battle between him and Arnold Schwartzenegger rather than between their ideas.

That bothered me.

I like Tom McClintock's positions better than Arnold Schwartzenegger's positions, especially social issues, however, he did not strike me as very likeable.

I would probably support Tom McClintock, but with some serious reservations.
18 posted on 09/21/2003 11:33:07 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: montag813
Well Mr. Consultant, explain how Tom + Arnold only = Bill Simon's losing percentage in 2002? I thought RINO Boy was going to attrack crossover votes when all he appears to be doing is splitting the vote with Tom.
19 posted on 09/21/2003 11:34:53 AM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: Reagan Man
Tom McClintock is a bonafide conservative ...

... he's toast! Burned, dry and stale!

20 posted on 09/21/2003 11:35:16 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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