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GOP'd Rather Be Right Than In Office
The Los Angeles Daily News ^ | September 20, 2003 | Thomas D. Elias

Posted on 09/21/2003 2:14:21 PM PDT by quidnunc

There's a reason why California Republicans can't unite behind a single candidate even when that candidate has a decent chance of winning: Many of them feel they'd rather be right than vote for a winner.

That's what's happening now, as most opinion polls show Republican actor Arnold Schwarzenegger could win the ongoing race to replace a recalled Gov. Gray Davis — if he were the only major Republican left in the race. The same polls indicate Ventura County state Sen. Tom McClintock, No. 3 in the polls, most likely cannot win.

But winning alone isn't enough for many in the GOP, apparently including McClintock. "Great parties are built on great principles," he told the GOP's state convention last weekend. "This is not a time to change our principles; this is a time to showcase them."

McClintock says he's convinced that, if he stays in the race long enough, it will be Schwarzenegger who's forced to stand down, not him. After all, the actor is dogged by tales of his groping women, illegally manipulating his decades-ago immigration applications and multiple failures to buy city licenses for businesses he runs. He's contradicted himself several times, and he's refused the great bulk of press interview and debate invitations.

"I expect an avalanche toward me in the last few days before the election," McClintock said. "It happened with Ronald Reagan. People said he was too conservative to win, just like they're saying about me. But he stuck to his principles when he ran for governor in 1966, and the final days saw a massive swing to him."

No such swing to McClintock is yet evident, and California is not the same place it was 37 years ago. Yes, McClintock has risen in the polls, but only after candidates like former Olympics czar Peter Ueberroth and financier Bill Simon dropped out and their supporters had to find somewhere to go.

Meanwhile, some Republicans are willing to gulp hard and swallow Schwarzenegger's background and un-Republican stances in favor of abortion and gun-control in exchange for a chance to win. That's what motivates the likes of his campaign chairman, Congressman David Dreier of San Dimas, and a host of other Republican officeholders who endorse the actor.

Many Republicans have long believed a similar acceptance party-wide of candidates who disagree with some previously inviolate GOP social dogma is necessary to make the party competitive again in California. They note the only Republican to win a top-of-the-ticket race in California since 1988 was ex-Gov. Pete Wilson, a prochoice, pro-gun control moderate who is now a lead adviser to Schwarzenegger.

"Many thousands of Republican women have felt forced to vote for Democrats or just not vote over the last 10 years or more because they couldn't stomach the insistence on anti-abortion platform planks by the men who run the party," observed businesswoman and Central Coast GOP congressional candidate Beth Rogers last year.

In fact, the gender gap has done more than the vaunted Latino vote to assure recent Democratic victories for every statewide office and produce a Legislature where Republicans can take few initiatives of their own, but must be content with occasional successes in blocking pet Democratic proposals.

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(Excerpt) Read more at dailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bustamante; california; davis; mcclintock; recall; schwarzenegger
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So, with potential victory staring them in the face, Republicans still can't unify. Yes, there are unification efforts from folks like Dreier and conservative state Sen. Ray Haynes of Riverside County, normally a firm McClintock ally.

But feelings among some in the GOP run high against unity, if it means backing someone who's not sufficiently conservative.

"Death before electability" – Mark Steyn

1 posted on 09/21/2003 2:14:21 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: DoctorZIn
ping
2 posted on 09/21/2003 2:17:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: quidnunc
Good article.

McClintock is on record stating that he prefers that Bustamane wins this election.

Burton, one of the more conservative members of Congress, also said McClintock had seemed to suggest that it would be acceptable for a Democrat to hold the governor's office, because he might create a clamor for a Republican in 2006.

He said McClintock had drawn a historical parallel to the 1980 presidential election, when Republican Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter, en route to a two-term presidency.

"I was saying I hated to see the Democrats and especially Gray Davis keep control, and Bustamante may want to give California back to Mexico — I said that tongue in cheek," Burton said, referring to the incumbent Davis and to Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante. "And he said we had four years of Jimmy Carter and eight years of Ronald Reagan and that was a fair exchange. And the implication was maybe that leaving the Democrats in would show that they can't govern properly."

Burton phone call to McClintock

3 posted on 09/21/2003 2:20:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: quidnunc
"Many thousands of Republican women have felt forced to vote for Democrats or just not vote over the last 10 years or more because they couldn't stomach the insistence on anti-abortion platform planks by the men who run the party," observed businesswoman and Central Coast GOP congressional candidate Beth Rogers last year.

Nobody forced you to be a traitor to babes in the womb and to your party, lady.

4 posted on 09/21/2003 2:22:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: quidnunc
some Republicans are willing to gulp hard and swallow Schwarzenegger's background and un-Republican stances in favor of abortion and gun-control in exchange for a chance to win. That's what motivates the likes of his campaign chairman, Congressman David Dreier

Somehow, I don't think Dreier and some of the other "conservatives" who back Arnold have to "gulp hard" to "swallow" his stance for abortion and gay adoptions. I suspect these people don't really care about those issues, they just say they do to pacify some of their constituents. If right to life and integrity of marriage and the family are really important to you, Arnold is too big a gulp to swallow. Only if these issues really don't matter to you, in my opinion, can you have a clean conscience while pulling a David Dreier (or Hugh Hewitt or Eric Hogue) and try to muscle McClintock aside because he's too principled.

5 posted on 09/21/2003 2:22:52 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: FairOpinion
Still majoring in the minors, I see.
6 posted on 09/21/2003 2:22:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: quidnunc
But feelings among some in the GOP run high against unity, if it means backing someone who's not sufficiently conservative.

The problem is not that he is not 'sufficiently conservative'. It is that he is not conservative at all.

7 posted on 09/21/2003 2:25:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: EternalVigilance
And you are still trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

"So Schwarzenegger poses a test for Republicans, one that tens of thousands of Democratic voters failed in 2000: Would they rather win or be ideologically pure? So far, purity is winning and, as a result, the GOP may lose an election it should have won. "
8 posted on 09/21/2003 2:25:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: quidnunc
"I expect an avalanche toward me in the last few days before the election," McClintock said.
Ego. Hope springs eternal-- until it doesn't happen. Bustamante as governor is the worst possible outcome. I'm glad I'm in Texas. We only have to listen to the Democrats whine futilely.
9 posted on 09/21/2003 2:26:10 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: FairOpinion
See, that's the difference between you and me, FO.

You consider a leftist winning an election a 'victory', and I don't.
10 posted on 09/21/2003 2:26:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: quidnunc
"Death before electability" – Mark Steyn

I've heard it before from the liberal likes of you. The media said it all the time in the 70s when we were trying to get Reagan nominated --- they said the GOP (or at least GOP conservatives) had a "death wish" because they couldn't swallow Rockefeller or other Eastern "we know best for you" liberals as their standard-bearers. Thank G-d Reagan didn't listen to sneerers like yourself who accused him of trying to lead the GOP on a death march.

11 posted on 09/21/2003 2:27:39 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: FairOpinion
If you lose your principles, you are left with nothing.

Benedict Arnold died a lonely old man in London; hated by those whom he had betrayed AND by those he had sold his soul to.
12 posted on 09/21/2003 2:28:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Right is right...)
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To: quidnunc
My usual disclaimer: I don't reside in California so don't really have a stake in this game.

It doesn't matter in the least what party sends a guy to the Governor's Mansion. California is spiraling into into oblivion because of liberal policies. A Republican can't change that if his "policies" are liberal.

In any venue liberal policies are prescriptions for the same chaos if you carry them as far as liberals want. It would be nice for producers in the world for Democrats to see this.

Some of the few statements of fundamental philosophy that Schwarzenegger has uttered that have been picked up nationally suggest that he really doesn't understand the cause and effect that flows from bad policy to catastrophe in society.

13 posted on 09/21/2003 2:29:33 PM PDT by stevem
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To: churchillbuff
Somehow, I don't think Dreier and some of the other "conservatives" who back Arnold have to "gulp hard" to "swallow" his stance for abortion and gay adoptions. I suspect these people don't really care about those issues

So how about you enlighten us and explain exactly how McClintock is going to outlaw abortion on CA.

14 posted on 09/21/2003 2:30:02 PM PDT by byteback (Don't vote for a proven loser)
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To: quidnunc
I'm not from CA, so I can't vote anyway. But I have to say I'm amused by the AS supporters on theses threads when they insult McClintock supporters and virtually demand that they vote for someone who is ideologically repulsive to them. At the same time, I haven't seen AS make any concessions to conservatives, or do anything to encourage them to vote for him. If he has and I've missed it, I'm willing to be informed. Otherwise, his approach to those whose support he really needs seems rather arrogant, even from 3,000 miles away.
15 posted on 09/21/2003 2:30:06 PM PDT by clintonh8r (A gentleman knows something about everything and everything about something.)
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To: quidnunc
McClintock is on record stating that he prefers that Bustamane wins this election.

Abso-frikkin'-lutley! I am happy with the outcome either way. Actually, though, I prefer Davis or Bustamente. Cuz let's get real folks, do you REALLY think any Republican can do anything other than collect the blame when the crappola hits the fan in a major way - by 2004?

Better to have the idiots that created this mess be the ones in the docket, to answer to a spoiled-brat electorate when the disasters and bills arrive.

16 posted on 09/21/2003 2:30:24 PM PDT by ctonious
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To: quidnunc
After all the pain and toil of the recall effort, it seems that Republicans will be rewarded with either Bustamante, or perhaps even Davis.
17 posted on 09/21/2003 2:31:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: EternalVigilance
SCHWARTZENEGGER IS NOT A LEFTIST. Until you stop these lies, your posts mean nothing. Do you even live in California? I love all of these people from from Democrative States telling us we must stand on principles. Go work on your own States and leave us alone.
18 posted on 09/21/2003 2:31:20 PM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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To: stevem
California needs conservative governance. Middle of the road half-measures won't help at this stage. I'm not even sure Arnold would offer half-measures - - - his enviro policy is reportedly being shaped by radical leftists with Kennedy ties. Hey, we can get that with Cruz or Gray.
19 posted on 09/21/2003 2:31:46 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: quidnunc
Not sure what the advantage is of being wrong and in office, but you go ahead.
20 posted on 09/21/2003 2:32:22 PM PDT by Wolfie
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