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AIR DEFENSE: Defending the White House from Suicide Cessnas
StrategyPage.com ^ | September 25, 2003

Posted on 09/25/2003 5:22:06 PM PDT by John Jorsett

Any terrorist with a few thousand bucks and a non-commercial pilots license has a shot at blowing up the White House. The only thing stopping this is a largely secret (for good reason) air defense system in the Washington DC area. There is a 48 kilometer no-fly zone around the White House. Any aircraft entering that zone without permission is a potential suicide attacker.

The easiest aircraft to obtain for an attack would be a two engine type like the Piper Aztec or Cessna Businessliner. You can rent one of these for under $500 an hour, or you can buy one second hand for under $300,000. You have to know how to turn off any air traffic control transponder the aircraft might be equipped with. This makes it much more difficult for the air traffic control system to track you. These aircraft can carry about 500 pounds of explosives (turning them into the destructive equivalent of a Tomahawk cruise missile), and are fast enough to breach the no-fly zone and hit the White House in eight minutes. That doesn't leave enough time to get F-16s into the air and in position for an interception. There are said to be Stinger crews in the White House (or personnel trained to use Stingers.) But firing the Stinger from the White House is a tricky business, as there is less than a minute between the time the approaching aircraft comes into range and it hits the White House (unless the missile takes out an engine and forces the aircraft to land somewhere else.)

There are said to be some UH-60s stationed in the area, armed with M-16 assault rifles, and ready to get airborne in minutes. These choppers intercept several aircraft a week that have entered the no-fly zone. But these helicopters are there mainly to protect the White House from Congress (as in "what are you doing about all these unauthorized aircraft over Washington.") In the last two years, no aircraft has made a suicide run at the White House. The helicopters could also be equipped with Sidewinder air-to-air missiles. The Sidewinder has a range of six kilometers and has been mounted on helicopters for years. There were also reports of Army Avenger systems (a hummer armed with Stinger, a heavy machinegun, radar and laser range finder) in the area, as well as Stinger missile teams. The Stinger has a range of only 4.5 kilometers. Effective range of the .50 caliber machine-gun is more like two kilometers. There could also be teams of snipers equipped with .50 caliber rifles (firing armor, or engine block, piercing incendiary bullets). These could also take down one of these aircraft, or at least disable the engines and ruin the attackers aim.

Before you can knock down a suicide aircraft, you have to be able to track the intruder, and if the pilot comes in at tree-top level, that will be difficult. Flying like that within the DC area suburbs is also dangerous, for there are numerous office parks within that area, many with buildings over a hundred feet high. But the no-fly zone is 1800 square kilometers, and each Stinger team is only covering about 14 square kilometers. The Avenger can move around, if it doesn't get stuck in traffic, but is unlikely to be able to cover more than a kilometer (or two) a minute, while trying to get in position for a shot. Because of their short range, the Stingers could only be used as a last line of defense, and would probably be stationed within 5-10 kilometers of the White House. While the attacker could further complicate the situation by coming in at night, this makes it more likely to collide with some high rise obstacle that is not well enough lit.

The U.S. Army is in charge of air defense on land, and has apparently devoted considerable thought and study to the problem. A workable solution is going to require a lot of equipment, weapons and troops. And also a lot of secrecy. There will have to be tight coordination with local Air Traffic Control, and military radar systems as well. There are even more exotic radar systems that might be brought into play.

So whatever the air defenses for the White House are, it will be a long time before we find out what they are. Unless there is a successful attack, in which case the details will come out in the investigation that follows. So far, there have been over a hundred small aircraft that have wandered into the zone by accident, or gone there for thrills. No one has been shot down. But, then, no one has really tried to take out the White House. Yet.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airdefense
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1 posted on 09/25/2003 5:22:06 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Phalanx (sp?) shipborne anti-aircraft gattling gun. Fires something like 3000 rpm of 20mm HEI ordinance. Tracks it's own bullets with radar, while tracking the target, and uses software to make the two come together.

Would chew a cessna jet into radar chaff in seconds.

2 posted on 09/25/2003 5:29:54 PM PDT by narby
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To: John Jorsett
Quite the alarmist article. A lot of hype really.

No aircraft have to scramble for an Intercept near the White House; there is already a 24 hour CAP (Combat Air Patrol) which carries missiles that cover the entire range of the protected area. There are also backup defenses. The author either thinks this President is as lax regarding security as the last one, or he doesnt know what is actually going on. One missile, one shot, one kill. A Cessna would be a grape miles from the White House if ever necessary.

The White House has protection that the public wont read about for decades to come.

3 posted on 09/25/2003 5:31:10 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: narby
More:

They need to get rid of that stupid restricted airspace around the WH. It's completly useless, even against cessna prop planes.

Guns like described above are the only sensible option. I'd even advertize the fact they exist (but not their location) just as a deterrent (terrorist don't mind dieing, but they don't like failure, and they would fail against this gun)

4 posted on 09/25/2003 5:33:16 PM PDT by narby
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To: Pukin Dog
The Clinton whitehouse was hit by a private aircraft.
Little did we know that it may have been an irate husband.
5 posted on 09/25/2003 5:33:27 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: John Jorsett
Umm...48 km no-fly zone? Uh-uh. There are approaches into Reagan Washington National that fly right down the Potomac between Virginia and DC and that's a damnsight closer to the White House than 48 km. Now maybe he's getting that confused with some sort of controlled airspace around DC? Most major cities have airspace where your plane has to have certain instrumentation (mode C transponder, etc.) and maybe file flight plans. I'm not a pilot so I don't really know the details.

The area right over the Mall and the White House is most definitely a no-fly zone, which is why DCA has some of the odd approaches and departures it does. But that zone doesn't extend for 30 miles, I don't think. If it did, nothing could fly in or out of Dulles either.

}:-)4
6 posted on 09/25/2003 5:34:09 PM PDT by Moose4 (I'm Southern. We've been refighting the Civil War for 138 years, you think we'll forget 9/11?)
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To: oldironsides
Might be interesting to revisit that story.
7 posted on 09/25/2003 5:37:11 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Pukin Dog
Unless the technology is pure blue sky it must involve some type of laser, directed EMP, or particle beam. All you really have to do is take out the ignition system of the plane a mile or so away.
8 posted on 09/25/2003 5:37:37 PM PDT by steve86
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To: narby
Nice idea over an empty sea, what about the rounds that miss in a built up area.

9 posted on 09/25/2003 5:38:01 PM PDT by KiaKaha
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To: oldironsides
The Clinton whitehouse was a zone of ineptitude.

Every plane in the restricted area is tracked (and more). No hostile is going to get close to the White House these days. Not at treetop level either. It just wont happen.

10 posted on 09/25/2003 5:39:44 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: KiaKaha
My thoughts exactly! "Something like 3000 rpm of 20mm HEI ordinance" needs to land somewhere.
11 posted on 09/25/2003 5:41:18 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: BearWash
I would read up on JSTARS if I were you. Blue sky is here right now.
12 posted on 09/25/2003 5:46:08 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: narby
First thing that came to mind...
13 posted on 09/25/2003 5:49:10 PM PDT by in the Arena (James Wayne Herrick - MIA Laos - 27 Oct 69)
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To: Moose4
There are approaches into Reagan Washington National that fly right down the Potomac between Virginia and DC and that's a damnsight closer to the White House than 48 km.

Here's one of them.

14 posted on 09/25/2003 5:49:35 PM PDT by Agnes Heep
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To: KiaKaha
Second thing that came to mind...
15 posted on 09/25/2003 5:51:49 PM PDT by in the Arena (James Wayne Herrick - MIA Laos - 27 Oct 69)
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To: July 4th
40mm has a self destruct fuze plus a proximity fuze. That would be the weapon of choice. I don't know if there are any radar directed/ high rate of fire 40mm in the inventory. I know several other countries have them. They would be ideal to take out a small aircraft. If we really wanted to get serious, the best thing to put up would be a bunch of balloons on cables like the barage balloons they used in WWII. But we would have to put up a lot of balloons.
16 posted on 09/25/2003 5:52:43 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Feeling my age, but wanting to feel older)
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To: John Jorsett
You have to know how to turn off any air traffic control transponder the aircraft might be equipped with.

Uh...no. You have to turn a transponder ON before you have to turn it off. This article is simple scare-mongering from a not very clued-in person...

17 posted on 09/25/2003 6:01:26 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: July 4th
Well purely on the idea of taking the aircraft out, it was a winner, it just went a little down hill (or down range) from there.

18 posted on 09/25/2003 6:14:12 PM PDT by KiaKaha
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To: Pukin Dog
The White House has protection that the public wont read about for decades to come.

Like sending goblins to Gitmo. I'm sure we've used intel to stop some things from happening, by taking out the terrorists. Which is the best way to handle those situations.

/john

19 posted on 09/25/2003 6:23:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (I'm just a cook.)
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To: KiaKaha
...what about the rounds that miss in a built up area.

Not a problem, government can always figure out why it's better for ordinary citizens to die (although tragic, of course!) than for government to be put at risk.

20 posted on 09/25/2003 6:25:08 PM PDT by Grut
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