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Calif. recall holds dilemma for liberals
AP | 9/28/03

Posted on 09/28/2003 11:22:49 AM PDT by kattracks

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — California's recall election offers voters on the left some tantalizing choices, including a media-savvy independent who favors public financing of campaigns and a Green anti-war activist with socialist roots.

At first, it seemed that with so many candidates splitting the vote, the race might provide an opportunity for someone outside the political mainstream to get elected.

As the campaign nears its conclusion, however, liberals are facing a more conventional dilemma.

Do they vote their hearts, voting to recall Gov. Gray Davis and picking independent Arianna Huffington or Green Party candidate Peter Camejo? Or their heads, choosing the middle-of-the-road Democrat, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, as their best hope of keeping Arnold Schwarzenegger from muscling in a Republican takeover?

"I had to play it safe because a lesser bad is better than Arnold," said Chris Wetzel, a registered Green and a sociology student at the University of California, Berkeley, who reluctantly cast his absentee ballot against the recall but for Bustamante.

For a bastion of the state's disaffected left, the San Francisco Bay Guardian, stopping Schwarzenegger also outweighs idealism. The weekly newspaper went with Camejo over Davis last fall, but this time editor Tim Redmond said Schwarzenegger, "who not only disagrees with us politically but is utterly unqualified to run the state," poses too big a threat. The Guardian came out against the recall and endorsed Bustamante.

"We are like a lot of progressives looking at this race," Redmond said. "What do you do?"

Conservative Republicans face the same issue — do they support their indefatigable champion, state Sen. Tom McClintock, or stake their party's future on a politically moderate actor who is pro-choice and supports gay rights?

The soul-searching seems particularly deep for die-hard liberals still smarting from the last presidential election, when Green Party candidate Ralph Nader is thought to have siphoned votes from Democrat Al Gore and helped put George W. Bush in the White House.

With California's Democratic establishment portraying the recall as a Republican-led power grab encouraged by the Bush White House, the ghosts of 2000 have haunted Camejo and Huffington.

Huffington's sharp wit and enthusiastic role as a recovering Republican wife have made her a favorite of liberal Hollywood, and she found a receptive crowd at Berkeley when she promised to roll back tuition hikes by cutting the prison budget. But even some of the most committed Berkeley liberals weren't willing to commit to her.

"It's tempting," said Starlie Dianant, a part-time student. "But it's difficult, especially after the 2000 election, to go for the person you really want because you might get stuck with the worst alternative."

Camejo supports the recall as a bold exercise in populism even if it was pitched and paid for by a conservative, Rep. Darrell Issa. But he saw the quandary coming — he predicted early that his campaign would thrive if Bustamante surged way ahead of Schwarzenegger, but would stall if the Democrat and Republican ran neck-and-neck.

Still, Camejo sees a silver lining in the ideas he's been able to promote during the campaign, and the bills Davis has signed lately that appeal to the state's liberals.

"What you need to register is not what the vote is, but how many people have been won over to your platform," Camejo said.

Hopes for Huffington and Camejo may have been high in August, when "there was a notion that somebody could win with 15 percent of the vote," but they "evaporated very, very quickly" once it became clear that only a fraction of the 135 candidates would command any serious consideration, said Roy Buhr, a campaign strategist for Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.

"There is a reason we don't elect a lot of independents in America, and it's because there is a built-in perception they can't win," Buhr said.

Still, some liberals are determined to go for the candidate they like most.

Matthew Ettlin, 23, a communications and philosophy student at San Diego State University, said he's thinking about switching from Bustamante to Camejo since watching them debate.

Camejo "just seemed very well versed in all the issues and he didn't go on personal attack," Ettlin said.

The L.A. Weekly is advising its readers to vote No on the recall, but also is endorsing Huffington rather than settle for a "so-so" alternative "to the bad that the Republicans so unflaggingly offer."

"Since Bustamante barely clears the so-so bar, in this election we're looking elsewhere," the paper explained.

Camejo says his supporters have his sympathy.

"Vote Green if you've got the courage. If not, vote for Bustamante," he says. "I'm not angry. I understand."



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1 posted on 09/28/2003 11:22:49 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks; BibChr; onyx; PhiKapMom; Tamsey; redlipstick; habs4ever; My2Cents; South40; ...
ping
2 posted on 09/28/2003 11:24:54 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................I report......THEY decide.....................)
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To: kattracks
Whatever heartburn this election is causing for Republicans and conservatives is nothing like what it's doing to liberals. It'll be interesting to look at the suicide statistics in California if a Republican is elected.
3 posted on 09/28/2003 11:29:18 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: kattracks
Matthew Ettlin, 23, a communications and philosophy student at San Diego State University, said he's thinking about switching from Bustamante to Camejo since watching them debate.

Why is it that the clueless college students (communications and philosophy; now there's useful training for an independent life!?) always lean towards socialism in the world sheltered by mommy, but once out in the real world, realize that if mommy isn't around forever they need to do something useful and develop more conservative realism?

And they do it over and over and over...

4 posted on 09/28/2003 11:38:04 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: kattracks
"It's tempting," said Starlie Dianant, a part-time student...

Ya can't make this stuff up. This story statisfies on Soooo levels....

5 posted on 09/28/2003 11:54:34 AM PDT by telebob
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To: Publius6961
When I was going to college I actually converted a hard-leftist Philosphy major to the Right! After endless lunchhours of listening to him chant Reagan-Bush are the Root of all Evil, he actually began to listen and learn from my refusal to listen to that rant.

One of my proudest days was when he looked up from his sandwich and said, "You're right and I'm wrong."
6 posted on 09/28/2003 12:05:16 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: kattracks
"middle-of-the-road Democrat, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante,"

It is truly frightening that Bustamante can be classified as this, compared to someone else running for public office in this country.

7 posted on 09/28/2003 12:43:37 PM PDT by isrul
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To: isrul; kattracks
It is truly frightening that Bustamante can be classified as this, compared to someone else running for public office in this country.

He cannot be. It is a lie. A flat-out lie.

8 posted on 09/28/2003 12:45:05 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: kattracks; DoctorZIn
"There is a reason we don't elect a lot of independents in America, and it's because there is a built-in perception they can't win," Buhr said.

And if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass on the ground. This is begging the question.

9 posted on 09/28/2003 12:50:18 PM PDT by Timesink
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middle-of-the-road Democrat, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante

Cough,bullshit cough.....

10 posted on 09/28/2003 12:52:34 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: EggsAckley
middle-of-the-road Democrat, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante

Yeah, as middle-of-the-road as Karl Marx. And as impressive as Zeppo Marx.

Lets not forget folks -- this wannabe butcher is a racist communist!

11 posted on 09/28/2003 12:53:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: freedumb2003
LOL! Right on!!
12 posted on 09/28/2003 12:55:53 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................I report...THEY decide.....................)
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To: kattracks
I assume you say the fascinating irony:

In the same way that McClintock Supporters view Arnold as too far to the left to be palatable, those on the left view him as too far to the right to be palatable.

hmmm. . . did you also see Ms. Clinton's take on Arnold--"right-winger"?
13 posted on 09/28/2003 1:04:30 PM PDT by fqued (They spend spend spend, then tax tax tax; and where are the jobs? gone gone gone)
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To: fqued
Arnold (the so called Liberal) seems to be giving the left some nightmares.

McClintock doesn't even ragister on their radar.

14 posted on 09/28/2003 1:06:46 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Well said, kat...

Why McChickentock doesn't drop out and accept reality is beyond me.

15 posted on 09/28/2003 1:11:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: kattracks
You wrote: "Arnold (the so called Liberal) seems to be giving the left some nightmares.

McClintock doesn't even ragister on their radar."


The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If the Leftist are so scared of Arnold, he's good enough.
16 posted on 09/28/2003 1:11:45 PM PDT by fqued (They spend spend spend, then tax tax tax; and where are the jobs? gone gone gone)
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To: kattracks
McClintock doesn't even ragister on their radar.

It's because McClintock is a man of principles if you listen to Bustamante or Arianna talk about McClintock!

It's scarey that they are thinking of compromising by voting for Bustamante instead of their first choise: Camejo or Arnianna.

Another good reason for Tom to drop out.

17 posted on 09/28/2003 1:12:58 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. McClintock doesn't deserve my vote!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
you wrote (sort of): Why McClintock doesn't drop out and accept reality is beyond me.


He doesn't have to...Arnold wins regardless of what McClintock does.
18 posted on 09/28/2003 1:13:33 PM PDT by fqued (They spend spend spend, then tax tax tax; and where are the jobs? gone gone gone)
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To: kattracks
Camejo "just seemed very well versed in all the issues and he didn't go on personal attack," Ettlin said.

He didn't personally attack the other candidates.

He personally attacked me.

A white, male, successful, high-earning taxpayer. The kind of taxpayer who creates jobs in California. The kind of taxpayer who pays Sacramento's bills.

19 posted on 09/28/2003 1:20:39 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: kattracks
Join Us…Your One Thread To All The California Recall News Threads!

Want on our daily or major news ping lists? Freepmail DoctorZin

20 posted on 09/28/2003 2:15:20 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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