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CONNECTING THE DOTS ON LAWYER FOR RUSH ACCUSER
various | 10/3/03 | self

Posted on 10/02/2003 10:14:43 PM PDT by STARWISE

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To: freeparoundtheclock
I am truly amazed that the Scott and Carol Lewis have not had a "tragic accident", yet.
201 posted on 10/05/2003 3:30:39 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a free republic.)
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To: meyer
The fact that Rush didn't come out and say "I'm innocent" proves only that he is listening to his attorney.

If Rush is innocent, he doesn't need an attorney.

202 posted on 10/05/2003 4:11:23 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
If Rush is innocent, he doesn't need an attorney.

I'll tell you what - let the nation's most powerful liberals falsely accuse you of something - anything - and see if you don't find it in your best interest to hire an attorney.

203 posted on 10/05/2003 5:38:07 PM PDT by meyer
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To: meyer
I'll tell you what - let the nation's most powerful liberals falsely accuse you of something - anything - and see if you don't find it in your best interest to hire an attorney.

Okay.

204 posted on 10/05/2003 6:03:27 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: meyer
Let's say instead of being accused of buying prescription drugs from a black market drug ring, Rush is accused of running a prostitution ring from his home.

He still says he is unaware of any investigation involving him and hires Roy Black?

205 posted on 10/05/2003 6:17:55 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
Let's say instead of being accused of buying prescription drugs from a black market drug ring, Rush is accused of running a prostitution ring from his home.

He still says he is unaware of any investigation involving him and hires Roy Black?

Consider where the smear is coming from, not just the content of the smear. The leftists play for keeps - they hate him. He's an obstacle to their future, as is Bush and Arnold. All 3 are getting the treatment. Anything to win, as my "philosophy" instructor used to say.

206 posted on 10/05/2003 6:24:08 PM PDT by meyer
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To: meyer
Consider where the smear is coming from, not just the content of the smear.

Let's say the same housekeeper is the source of the smear.

207 posted on 10/05/2003 6:41:36 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
Let's say the same housekeeper is the source of the smear.

The same housekeeper backed by the same liberal machine? Probably an irrelevent point anyway - I'd still hire the best I could afford if I were in Rush's position. In my own personal position, it doesn't matter as much, for I have relatively little to lose, but Rush has much to lose and should defend it to the best of his ability.

208 posted on 10/05/2003 7:03:02 PM PDT by meyer
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To: meyer
Even if you were totally innocent, you would still hire a defense attorney?

The only attorney I would hire would be one to sue the living Clinton out of the National Enquirer and the people who sold the story to the Enquirer.

209 posted on 10/05/2003 7:05:57 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: TaxRelief
Don't wait for me to check it out... go to Opensecrets.org and run their names in the "donor lookup".
210 posted on 10/05/2003 7:23:06 PM PDT by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Heck, I know they're bad folks... believe me.
211 posted on 10/05/2003 7:23:42 PM PDT by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: bonesmccoy; TaxRelief
I think that's why Rush retained Black because he knows what evil lurks in the hearts of S. Florida demrats.

Black can handle the matter whether it becomes a civil matter or something based upon allegation by a bottom dwelling housekeeper.

Due to Rush's auto immune problems, there is no doubt that he's had chronic pain, including headaches, earaches and joint pain. He hated the steroids he took before the cochlear implant. This is just an example of the dems smearing somebody who's disabled but brilliant. Maybe the maid was hired from the get go as a dem operative to answer an ad for the job at Rush's home. Maybe she had a fake background check, credentials and references. Otherwise, maybe Rush wouldn't have hired her.

212 posted on 10/06/2003 8:19:30 AM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Texas Eagle
Even if you were totally innocent, you would still hire a defense attorney?

Probably. Innocent people do get framed, particularly when they go against the "grain".

The only attorney I would hire would be one to sue the living Clinton out of the National Enquirer and the people who sold the story to the Enquirer.

That's another possibility - and if not the Enquirer, then other interested parties.

Realistically, I certainly cannot guarantee Rush's innocence. I doubt his guilt, but obviously don't have all the facts (and I'll point out that nobody else here does either) from which to make a definate judgement. But, I do know that Rush is very bright, honest, and has strong convictions. I think he's building a stronger hand before he plays this one out. It certainly doesn't hurt to have an experienced gambler help decide which cards to toss and which ones to keep, particularly when it appears that the dealer and the other players might share the goal of making you lose.

213 posted on 10/06/2003 5:07:46 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Texas Eagle
Even if you were totally innocent, you would still hire a defense attorney?

Probably. Innocent people do get framed, particularly when they go against the "grain".

The only attorney I would hire would be one to sue the living Clinton out of the National Enquirer and the people who sold the story to the Enquirer.

That's another possibility - and if not the Enquirer, then other interested parties.

Realistically, I certainly cannot guarantee Rush's innocence. I doubt his guilt, but obviously don't have all the facts (and I'll point out that nobody else here does either) from which to make a definate judgement. But, I do know that Rush is very bright, honest, and has strong convictions. I think he's building a stronger hand before he plays this one out. It certainly doesn't hurt to have an experienced gambler help decide which cards to toss and which ones to keep, particularly when it appears that the dealer and the other players might share the goal of making you lose.

214 posted on 10/06/2003 5:08:40 PM PDT by meyer
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To: meyer
Sorry about the double post - the internet burped on me. :)
215 posted on 10/06/2003 5:09:36 PM PDT by meyer
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To: meyer
Agreed. Rush needs the experience and hard ball tactics of Roy Black. This is about more than hatred of Rush, this is about Rush's interference with their plans.

A little history:

Two drug lords Magluta and "Willy" Falc bought an airstrip south of Lake Okeechobee and moved drugs in and out of this country freely by paying off the local Sheriff's Dept.

When they were finally caught, their personal files revealed that they were being served by a Panamanian Law Firm that was headed by Hernon Delgado and Guillermo Endara. This firm set up multiple dummy corporations for them through which they could funnel their drug money. Guillermo Endara was selected to be President of Panama after we removed Manuel Noriega, the biggest drug runner of them all, from power.

The Defense Team for Magluta and Falc includes:

Albert Krieger [defended John Gotti]
Frank Rubin [defended Noriega]
Roy Black [defended William Kennedy Smith and Willy Lozano]
Ed Shohat [the subject of this thread]
Martin Weinberg [Boston attorney/ 4th amendment expert]
Jeff Weiner [Pres. of the Nat'l Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers]
Mark Dachs, and others.

(Shohat also represented Castrillon, another drug underlord, and member of Noriega's "Family" when he was accused of funnelling drug money to the Panamanian Presidency in 1994.)

216 posted on 10/06/2003 7:22:08 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between socialism, communism, drug war lords and vodka.)
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To: TaxRelief
Have you listened to Rush this week? He has a new sponsor which appears to be a Detox Center. (a gentle one the spot says). Do you think that's just a coincidence? It doesn't matter if it is or not to me. I'm sticking with Rush no matter how this turns out.
217 posted on 10/08/2003 7:48:59 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Good point. I noticed the add but somehow didn't realize it was new. (Like glue, too)
218 posted on 10/08/2003 8:22:28 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between socialism, communism, drug war lords and vodka.)
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To: TaxRelief
Fox News was doing a Limbaugh tease this a.m. I think this is going to break soon. Anyhoo, Rush's radio show starts in about 30 minutes.
219 posted on 10/09/2003 9:02:32 AM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (conservative-spirit.org)
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To: TaxRelief

More notes:



http://www.imshin.blogspot.com/2003_09_28_imshin_archive.html

Bish has pointed out some interesting things with regard to the letter (they are all apparently ex-IAF pilots, a few of them still do reserve duty, although I've read that hardly any (Thank you, Allison for the link) were actually called to do any of the missions they are objecting to, so their refusal is actually academic). I still have to do some research, organize my thoughts about some of the information he has uncovered and find relevant links, but the one thing that stands out is that one of the ringleaders is none other than Yigal Shohat, husband of the infamous Orit Shohat, the far left wing pain in the neck that writes in Haaretz and its Tel Aviv local rag Ha'ir. I've discussed her before. Her husband is a known refusenik (Hebrew link, don't be sorry, it's a rather uninspiring and uninteresting speech given by him in Tel Aviv on 9th January 2002 about the merits of refusing). This couple's well-publicized sentiments emboldened Orit's mother, famous Israeli singer of old, eighty-something-year-old Yaffa Yarkoni, into making a fool of herself by taking a public stand in favor of the refuseniks a while ago. This provoked much mirth and merriment at the time, because Ms. Yarkoni is not famous for her brains or for her common sense. Or for her voice, for that matter. Every time I hear Shlomo Gronich sing Bab-el-Wad I cry. I just can't help it. Her rendition, on the other hand, (the original, sadly) makes me cringe. Oh well, they say she was pretty when she was young.




http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0429-02.htm

JERUSALEM -- To generations of Israeli fans, Yaffa Yarkoni has been "the Singer of the Wars." Whenever troops marched into battle, they could be sure Yarkoni would follow. Clad in fatigues, she raised spirits at the front with her rousing renditions of patriotic songs.

So it seemed natural for Army Radio to interview the iconic singer in her home a few days before Israel's Independence Day this month. Once again, Israeli troops were at war, this time in the West Bank, where they were sweeping through Palestinian towns and refugee camps in Israel's largest military operation there since the 1967 Middle East War.

But this time, Yarkoni offered no words of encouragement. Instead, she bitterly criticized the troops, the government and Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in an anguished tirade that shocked her interviewer and enraged many Israelis. "When I saw the Palestinians with their hands tied behind their backs, young men, I said, 'It is like what they did to us in the Holocaust,' " Yarkoni said. "We are a people who have been through the Holocaust. How are we capable of doing these things?"

Her words were deemed so offensive that the union representing the nation's performing artists called off a planned tribute to Yarkoni that had been in the works for two years. The head of the union said it was forced to make the move after members of the public flooded its offices with complaints and returned tickets purchased for the event, and after sponsors canceled their financial support.

Government ministers denounced Yarkoni. The town of Kfar Yona canceled her performance at a Memorial Day event to honor Israeli soldiers who have fallen in battle. Youth movements declared a boycott of her music. The septuagenarian received so many hate calls, her daughter said, that she is now too frightened to appear in public.

At a time when many Israelis believe that they are locked in a battle for their existence with the Palestinians, Yarkoni's remarks, and the backlash against her, have stirred a debate here about freedom of speech and the nature of patriotism.

"What happened to Yaffa Yarkoni," said Naomi Chazan, a left-wing member of the Knesset, Israel's parliament, "exemplifies the fact that in the current climate in Israel, anything that is not the official line is considered treachery or betrayal."

Yarkoni is not the only public figure who has come under attack recently. Yossi Beilin, the dovish former justice minister, found himself the target of a boycott effort this month. A group of 43 professors and instructors at Ben Gurion University in Beersheba signed a letter protesting Beilin's scheduled appearance to lecture on Jews in the 21st century.

Instead of being invited to lecture, said Dr. Arieh Zaritsky, a geneticist who was one of the signatories, the former Cabinet member should be standing trial in Israel for helping draft the 1993 Oslo peace accords between Israel and the Palestinians.

"I think he is a criminal," Zaritsky said.

Beilin did deliver his lecture, and a stream of university professors took to Israeli radio and television talk shows to denounce what they said was an attempt to stifle academic freedom.

But Zaritsky denies that those who opposed Beilin's appearance are against free speech.

"We wanted to save Ben Gurion University from the shameful appearance of a person who has demonstrated, to say the least, a lack of judgment," he said.

In a poll published Friday, the Israeli daily Maariv found that at a time of threat, large segments of the Israeli public are more interested in unity than free speech.

Asked whether journalists who criticize the army's current operation in the West Bank and the government's policies in the West Bank and Gaza Strip harm national security or strengthen democracy and the country, 58% of those polled said they harm national security. Asked whether it was appropriate to cancel the performance honoring Yarkoni after she spoke against Israel's policies in the territories, 55% said it was.

"It's not only Yaffa Yarkoni or Yossi Beilin," wrote Maariv analyst Hemi Shalev of the poll's results. "Fifty-eight percent of the public, a stable and definite majority, believes that journalists who criticize [army] operations or government policy 'harm state security.' No more and no less, and very, very scary."

It is one thing, Shalev wrote "to believe in the colossal failure of Oslo or the need to take measures against the Palestinians with a strong hand and powerful arm, and another thing entirely to accuse anyone who thinks otherwise of something akin to treason. This is a slippery slope."

Yarkoni declined to be interviewed for this story. Her daughter, Orit Shohat, said her 77-year-old mother is too distressed to speak. But Shohat said Yarkoni, who has not previously made political statements, has no regrets about the comments she made.

"They interviewed her just after she saw the pictures from the Jenin refugee camp," Shohat said. Her mother was shocked by footage of the large-scale destruction carried out inside the camp during a battle there between Israeli troops and Palestinian gunmen, Shohat said.





220 posted on 11/22/2004 8:12:45 AM PST by TaxRelief (out-of-the-closet conservative)
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