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To: MikeJ75
The passage he quoted is Old Testament, we are under the laws of the New Testament. A Baptist preacher worth his salt would know the difference. Not only is Phelps an idiot, his family is infested with the same ignorant ranting and intelligence. Recently, SuperTalk Mississippi had one of Phelps daughters on the program and if there was anyone that personified ignorance when they opened their mouth, it was her.
13 posted on 10/04/2003 6:25:05 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug
If it was an "abomination" in the OT, then it is in the NT and now.

The difference in the NT is that you don't kill them.
18 posted on 10/04/2003 6:28:14 AM PDT by Guillermo ( Proud Infidel)
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To: vetvetdoug
As a former Bible School student, and as a former Southern Baptist Deacon, responsible for "educating" the graduating Senior Women's sunday school class (I learned a lot more from them than I taught...), I can state that many Baptists dwell in the Old testament, and only acknowledge the new Testament because they get to talk about Jesus... (this is not limited to Baptists, my dad is an Episcopal Priest, who does not believe half of what he preaches about!)
Most Christians have no real concept of what God has given them... freely, with His love...
"we are no longer under the curse of the Law and prophets, but have been set free from sin and death!"
How? Simple faith, in the actions of our Creator!
"for God so loved the world, that HE gave His only begotten Son, so whosoever believeth ...shall not die"!
Jesus lives! Therefore, I can live! Forever!
(Note: quptes paraphrased...if you need Scriptural references, get a good concordance, these quotes of mine are in my head! or, I will gladly get out my Thompsons, or the really controversial Dakes!!!)
23 posted on 10/04/2003 6:38:32 AM PDT by pageonetoo (in God I trust, not the g'umt!)
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To: vetvetdoug
"SuperTalk Mississippi had one of Phelps daughters on the program and if there was anyone that personified ignorance when they opened their mouth, it was her"

This is the same kind of ignorance that professes membership in the Klan as pleasing to God. I think nothing could be furthur from the truth. While God may honor the intention in their hearts (which is not for me to judge), I do not believe that His leading or His blessing is upon such organizations OR churches that are firmly rooted in ignorance, which is the source of most unjust hatred.

I remember back several years ago when one of the talk shows, don't recall which one, had a bunch of Klan members and their families on. What profound ignorance was on display that day! Almost made Jerry Springer's typical guest look rational. Just because someone does or says things in God's name, doesn't mean that He has any part in it.

31 posted on 10/04/2003 7:07:35 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: vetvetdoug
The passage he quoted is Old Testament, we are under the laws of the New Testament.

I understand what you are saying, but the sin of homosexuality is still sin. Romans 1 is a prime example.

This does not mean that I am excusing Phelps. I wish he'd go away for he does the Body no good.


55 posted on 10/04/2003 8:46:17 PM PDT by rdb3 (2Pac could have used a decoy that night...)
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