Regardless of what you think about Grey Davis, we should all be able to agree that we must now stop this attempted hijacking of the democratic process. Impeaching Clinton ...Florida and the 2000 election ... Redistricting in Texas ... now California... What makes the Right Wing think they can just bully and buy their way into power? If we allow this recall to win, we will be setting a dangerous precedent. In this unfair process, a candidate receiving just 30% of the vote could beat Davis, even if the governor receives 49%. Our governor was elected fair and square just a year ago. He deserves the opportunity to serve out his time in office. So get out there on October 7th and vote no on recall !!!
I concur. However, Davis has ruined the state. People now want him out. It was only a few months ago they voted to keep him. They could not see the forest for the trees. He was bad even back then, they had a choice. I am not spitting at the conservatives in the crowd, but the liberals, and demwits that want him gone now but voted for him then. They had a chance. He had already screwed up the power thing and his democommie friends in the state were raising taxes and doing for illegals as fast as they could. We could see it. Why couldn't they?
Isn't it just so unfair. I mean someone with 30% of the vote can replace a guy with 49.999% of the vote.
I don't hear Babst complaining that those who vote NO in order to keep Davis get a second vote on Part B.
Voting NO is a vote for Davis. Voting for Bustamante on top of that is tantamount to voting for two candidates. Where is Barbara's indignation expressed about this outrage against democracy?
How would she like it if I could vote for Tom McClintock but was also able to vote for Schwarzenegger just in case?
"[W]e should all be able to agree that we must now stop this attempted hijacking of the democratic process... What makes the Right Wing think they can just bully and buy their way into power?" -- Barbra Streisand
Those are some strong words, Babs. Let's take a look at your examples, shall we?
"Impeaching Clinton"
"The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." -- U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 2
"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present." -- U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 3
"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law." -- U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 3 "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." -- U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 4
"Florida and the 2000 election"
"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows." -- U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector." -- U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1
"The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed..." -- U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1
"Redistricting in Texas"
"Representation ... shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct." -- U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 2
I can not find any Texas statute or Texas Constitutional provision for congressional redistricting. Therefore, the congressional districts are those set in law in Title 8 of Vernon's Texas Civil Statutes (Article 197h). However, those congressional districts were drawn and set into law in 1991. Since the U.S. Constitution requires for re-apportionment every 10 years, the Texas legislature is in violation of the U.S. Constitution and must draw new congressional districts based on the latest Enumeration (U.S. Census 2000). The Texas Constitution does address on how to deal with the situation of members refusing to appear to vote on the issue of re-districting:
"Two-thirds of each House shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner and under such penalties as each House may provide." -- Texas Constitution, Article 3, Section 10
"now California..."
"All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their protection, security, and benefit, and they have the right to alter or reform it when the public good may require." -- California Constitution, Article 2, Section 1
"Recall is the power of the electors to remove an elective officer." -- California Constitution, Article 2, Section 13
"Recall of a state officer is initiated by delivering to the Secretary of State a petition alleging reason for recall.
Sufficiency of reason is not reviewable. Proponents have 160 days to file signed petitions." -- California Constitution, Article 2, Section 14(a)
"A petition to recall a statewide officer must be signed by electors equal in number to 12 percent of the last vote for the office, with signatures from each of 5 counties equal in number to 1 percent of the last vote for the office in the county..." -- California Constitution, Article 2, Section 14(b)
"An election to determine whether to recall an officer and, if appropriate, to elect a successor shall be called by the Governor and held not less than 60 days nor more than 80 days from the date of certification of sufficient signatures." -- California Constitution, Article 2, Section 15(a)
"If the majority vote on the question is to recall, the officer is removed and, if there is a candidate, the candidate who receives a plurality is the successor. The officer may not be a candidate..." -- California Constitution, Article 2, Section 15(c)
"If recall of the Governor or Secretary of State is initiated, the recall duties of that office shall be performed by the Lieutenant Governor or Controller, respectively." -- California Constitution, Article 2, Section 17
If we allow this recall to win, we will be setting a dangerous precedent. In this unfair process, a candidate receiving just 30% of the vote could beat Davis, even if the governor receives 49%. Our governor was elected fair and square just a year ago. He deserves the opportunity to serve out his time in office. So get out there on October 7th and vote no on recall !!!
If you want this "unfair process" to be gone, then get to work enacting an amendment to the California Constitution to get the recall provisions removed. The recall is completely legal and constitutional.
Still think the way Stupid Streisand supports Clintoon that that she partook of Clintoon prior to Lewinksky.