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Asia Times ^ | 2003/10/04 | Jim Lobe

[SERE_DOC]

"PIPA?"

Pandering in Purgatory Alone...

[I'm ALL Right!]

Wow! The dims are going after every possible foe with full force! What a bunch of garbage.

[norwaypinesavage]

You forgot a barf alert. Any report that ranks PBS accuracy ahead of Fox News accuracy should automatically come with a projectile barf shield.

[Sender]

I'll bet the very best scores of all came from surveying Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya viewers. They had absolutely no misconceptions at all. /barf*

[leather_strap]

First of all, I think "misperceptions" can also simply be made by the technic of asking and by putting such questions into a certain context. So those things should have also been mentioned at the report,at least as a foot-note. and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq. That really depends on how you define world public opinion, doesn't it. The consensus of European politicians and Third-World tyrants was against the war, but does that mean that "world public opinion" was against the war? I am aware of no data on this point. Polls do show that Iraqi public opinion was and is in favor of the war. Isn't that more relevant? Hmm, I'm from Denmark and here in Europe in all countries (only except Poland, I think) the vast majority of the population was AGAINST the war, on February 15. more than 11 Million people were marching on the streets in peaceful protest, something that hasn't been fully covered by most american news channels, just see here for some reports: http://peacenowar.net/Iraq/News/Feb%2015%2003--News.htm (Barcelona/Spain alone had between 1 and 2 Millions demonstrants!) Those were by far the largest protests the world has seen on a single day so far, even the Vietnam-protests looked neat compared with this wordlwide movement. About the Iraqis: do you have any sources about this poll,who did make it and who has paid for it? I've heard of two polls before and after the war, and they were very varying from each other, but I don't have any links about his anymore :o|

[leather_strap]

how can this alert be triggered when creating a post? I'm not very familiar with this board here, please help me!

[MegaSilver]

It ain't Fox's fault... I've seen them state several times over the last months that WMDs have not been found.

[cyncooper]

One person's "misperception" is another's measured and studied analysis of the available facts separated from lib spin.

[pfflier]

Eighty percent of Fox viewers were found to hold at least one misperception, compared to 23 percent of NPR/PBS consumers

They've smeared the President,

They've crucified Rush,

They. slandered Arnold

and now they slam Fox.

Meanwhile I'm still looking for that "vast right wing conspiracy"!

[pfflier]

Eighty percent of Fox viewers were found to hold at least one misperception, compared to 23 percent of NPR/PBS consumers

They've smeared the President,

They've crucified Rush,

They. slandered Arnold

and now they slam Fox.

Meanwhile I'm still looking for that "vast right wing conspiracy"!

[MarkL]

You know, the funny thing is, that the rest of the media is appoplectic about Fox News, but it's available in only a fraction of the homes in the USA. It's got a much smaller installed base than do the other "cable news" outlets, like CNN and MSNBC, and only a tiny fraction of the possible audience of the major networks.

But they're demonized for shifing the entire news delivery within the US to the hard right...

Yeah... And I've got a bridge to sell. People have just begun to wake up, and find alternate news sources, like the Internet. And they find that what they find on the Internet is closer to Fox News (i.e. "the mostly unbiased truth") than anything they had available before.

Mark

[driftless]

So large numbers of leftist Euros marched against the war. So what? If Denmark decides to do something against another country, and I organize a protest getting millions to march against your actions, does the simple fact of my organizing the march prove the rightness or wrongness of what your country does? Let me inform you that America can't afford to put the hurt feelings of millions of heads-in-the-ground Euro lefties into its foreign policy decisions. I personally wouldn't care if the entire population of Europe protested the war. And neither do most Americans except for the leftist media elites and the fascist-loving, commie-bootlicking, ignoramuses who inhabit Hollyweird.

[sarasmom]

I now understand your inability to grasp the true subtance of what the USA thinks of the world regarding the "question" of the war, since you are from Denmark.
You consider it was somehow subject to debate, and an example of the damage a warmongering vs peaceloving POTUS can do to the fabric of world events.
I, OTOH, am a typical, normal USA citizen and barely forgave our POTUS for not instantly nuking Saudi Arabia, Iraq,France and about ten other countries long known to be trouble making haters of human freedom and spawners of international terrorism.
In a show of almost superhuman restraint and leadership,the USA, led by President Bush, nobody has been nuked... yet.
You might rejoice that it was not put to a popular opinion polls vote on 9/12/01, 2002, or 2003.
You seem to get your opinions on the pulse of the USA from the NYT and the LATimes and other fiction based liberal media pablum.Dont feel bad.The world is just as ignorant of what the "USA Street" is saying and thinking.
March in useless parades all you like, and feel happy with your innefectual and shallow display of government approved communal "freedom".
I bought new ammo,honed my weapons, and prepared myself for the long road to regain peace in our time, for the sake of my childs generation.
The question clearly sent to the rest of the world was, are you with USA or against USA?
Choose your answer wisely, and a simple yes or no, is the extent of your choices now.No maybee, under these conditions, etc.
Yes_
No _
How hard can such a decision be to make?
Oh I forgot! Time is actually up, and your government already voted.Do you know which side you are on in this war?

[chudogg]

PIPA found that 48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group

Salman Pak, U.S. troops did find the 707 the defectors claimed was always there.

22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction

Enriched Uranium and a vial of Botulinum Toxin. It may not be as much as we were expecting but they DID find WMD. And the only news coverage the media gave on the Uranium was that the troops didn't secure it and poor Iraqi looters were exposed to it.

25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq.

Maybe the people being polled were confused by the question. After they saw thousands of cheering Iraqi's as U.S. troops liberated them they probably couldn't care less what some socialist frenchman thought.

Whats is really revealing is how negatively people responded to the questions. If the question was phrased "U.S. troops found Significant evidence" or "significant amounts of WMD" it would be different. But 80 percent of the poeple did not know that a vial of WMD was found? Over half believe no evidence of Al Quada links were found? Cleary this is the fault of the media. Even FOXNEWS.

a whopping 86 percent said they supported war Maybe thats because those who support the war know the fine details on whats going on. Those who are against the war just go on what is being fed to the by the networks.

with Republicans substantially "more likely" to hold misperceptions

It looks republicans tend to know the fine details as well, and the democrats are fed by the networks.

[Ready4Freddy]

"I'd rather have viewers with misconceptions than hosts with agendas."

The former is the result of the latter. Fox' agenda is the most obvious of all.

[chudogg]

are you kidding me?? You think Fox is more biased than CNN, CBS??

There are two types of Biases, how you report a story, but more importantly what stories you report

Fox may lean right of center with their analysis, but because the general newsmedia is saturated with far left liberals, the left still has a monolpoly on what stories get reported, even on FOXnews.

How much coverage did Fox give to Davis's manhandling interns, or Arnold busting a Nazi rally when he was younger, or the Vial of Botulinum Toxin, or Salman Pak and on and on and on..

[Ready4Freddy]

"You think Fox is more biased than CNN, CBS?? "

No, I don't. I said that theirs was more obvious. Wasn't it James Beard who said (in reference to Velveeta :) "Anything that is called 'cheese food' is neither"? Any network who feels the need to proclaim themselves 'Fair & Balanced' is.......

[chudogg]

How about "The Most Trusted Name In News"?

[hgro]

Marvin Kalb being quoted as an expert is like using the village to take census.

[hgro]

Marvin Kalb being quoted as an expert is like using the village idiot to take census.