[darkwing104]

Are they jealous of Fox News or what?

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[ReleaseTheHounds]

"This is a dangerously revealing study," said Marvin Kalb, a former television correspondent and a senior fellow of the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University."

Ah, yes... revealing: the Shorenstein Center on the Press at Harvard is the group that admitted Al Franken as a "Visiting Fellow", provided adle-brained student interns to help him with his latest "project", and allows The Shorenstein Center to be used (as in use of stationery) to attempt to entrap Vice President Cheney into Mr. Franken's "study" of Administration figures.

Glad to see that the Asia Times is so concerned about our "fair and balanced" media.

[dirtboy]

For each of the three misperceptions, the study found enormous differences between the viewers of Fox, who held the most misperceptions, and NPR/PBS, who held the fewest by far.

That's pretty hilarious, because Bob Edwards was interviewing Terry McAuliff the other day and asked Terry if the Kay Report failed to back Bush's claim that the danger from Saddam was imminent. I'd rather have viewers with misconceptions than hosts with agendas.

[dead]

Basically, the study revealed that people who educated themselves rigorously from a variety of news sources came to far different conclusions concerning the available evidence than did liberal journalists and sheltered leftwing academics.

[sam_paine]

I like how they conclude, as a given, the three "conceptions" are incorrect.

Why is Salman Pak, etc, not enough evidence for conceiving a link between Hussein and terrorists.

The explicit conceit is outrageous......paraphrasing "Folks watching Fox are always wrong, PBS/NPR listeners are brilliant."

Get lost.

[Timesink]

Academic fraud alert!

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[dirtboy]

Based on several nationwide surveys it conducted with California-based Knowledge Networks since June, as well as the results of other polls, PIPA found that 48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group; 22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq; and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq. All three are misperceptions.

There are, of course, many other misperceptions, many of which are more prevalent on the left, but this group did not bother to include those in its polling, which guaranteed that the poll generated the desired result. I went to the website for this bunch and they are some of the most biased pollsters I have yet seen.

[dirtboy]

Check out this survey that PIPA conducted over Bush's refusal to support the Kyoto accords. Not ONE mention that the Senate voted 97-0 to never ratify a treaty with certain provisions like those that ended up in Kyoto.

Yeah, these guys are disinterested pollsters - NOT!

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Please DO NOT FORGET the barf alert next time.

[Timesink]

academic fraud ping

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

It is becoming very difficult to forgive the press and their university accomplices. No need to read past the claim that FoxNews viewers are most deluded in this shameful sham 'study'. Clintons WhiteHouse perfected the art of pretty lies: reports, graphs, polls, studies, people.

Try researching election 2000 some time. As a Florida Republican with access to W Palm Beach precinct data, and much other info on DEM. mischief, doing research on the net was a shock. Major American universities - University of Michigan in partical with their supposed vast archive of election data - are misleading the world with selective and inaccurate data.

God bless Jim Robinson.

[lepton]

PIPA found that 48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group; 22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq; and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq. All three are misperceptions.

Well, one out of three is doing better than typical. Troops found WMDs. There were contacts between senior members fot eh Iraqi government and senior members of Al-Queda, not to mention apparent actual training camps on Iraqi soil. The issue is over how significant the finds were.

[gridlock]

Based on several nationwide surveys it conducted with California-based Knowledge Networks since June, as well as the results of other polls, PIPA found that 48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group; 22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq; and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq. All three are misperceptions.

How can this purport to be a serious study when the questions are so obviously flawed? These are not misperceptions. To take them one at a time.

48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group

Links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been demonstrated, time and time again. Iraq hosted training camps, supplied weapons and expertise, and offered sanctuary to al-Qaeda fugitives over a period of at least ten years. The weasel words in this question are "US Troops" and "close". The links between al-Qaeda and Iraq were not discovered by "US Troops", and we could argue from now 'till doomsday about what constitutes "close".

22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq

The Kay report documents a massive and ongoing WMD program in Iraq, which was ample cause for war. This is not a misperception. Before the war, nobody argued that Saddam had WMD actually on-hand as a cause for war, but rather that he was trying continually to acquire or produce them. By asking a question so deceptive and off-the-point, it is predictable that at least 22% of the people would get it wrong.

and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq.

That really depends on how you define world public opinion, doesn't it. The consensus of European politicians and Third-World tyrants was against the war, but does that mean that "world public opinion" was against the war? I am aware of no data on this point. Polls do show that Iraqi public opinion was and is in favor of the war. Isn't that more relevant?

All three are misperceptions.

All three are at odds with the accepted dogma in US academia. But that does not mean that they are misperceptions.

[dirtboy]

Here is a representative report from PIPA. Have the barf bag ready.

We live in curious times. We seem to have a rational public and an ideological ruling class. Average Americans are basically centrist, prone to balance, compromise, fair shares, reasonable resolutions. Their Congress is polarized, hyperpartisan, responsive to “cause” activists of left and right. Washington regularly misreads the former and bemoans the latter.

Exhibit A was the impeachment of President William Jefferson Clinton. Showing astoundingly bad judgment and an excruciating lack of self-control, he indulged himself in an affair with a White House intern, then lied about it—in legal proceedings, and to the American public. He had also, by some combination of skill and luck, presided over a national prosperity—soaring income and productivity growth and low inflation complete with fiscal surplus —that virtually no one thought possible on January 20, 1993. And his empathy with Americans’ goals and needs was uncanny. The public’s conclusion? Bad man, good president. Censure him and move on. The congressional resolution? Haul out the heavy guns. A year of bitter wrangling, driven by activists on the Clinton-hating right, ending in a partisan House vote for his ouster and acquittal by the Senate (also along mainly partisan lines) and no censure resolution at all. Meanwhile, Washington vacillated between certainty that the latest juicy revelation would finally destroy Clinton’s public support and wishing that statesmen would emerge to lead us out of the mess.

Yeah, this bunch is really unbiased...

[I'm ALL Right!]

Wow! The dims are going after every possible foe with full force! What a bunch of garbage.

[norwaypinesavage]

You forgot a barf alert. Any report that ranks PBS accuracy ahead of Fox News accuracy should automatically come with a projectile barf shield.

[Sender]

I'll bet the very best scores of all came from surveying Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya viewers. They had absolutely no misconceptions at all. /barf*

[MegaSilver]

It ain't Fox's fault... I've seen them state several times over the last months that WMDs have not been found.

[cyncooper]

One person's "misperception" is another's measured and studied analysis of the available facts separated from lib spin.