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LA Times Response to Criticism
LA Times
| 10-6/03
| Jamie Gold - LA Times Readers' Representative
Posted on 10/6/2003, 9:47:36 PM by InfamousAngryWhiteMale
I send an protest email the the LA Times last week regarding their slimey articles on Arnold. I received this email back today.
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Dear XXXXXXXXX,
Thank you for contacting us. I wanted to send you a note from the newsroom written by the readers' representative. Her comments reflect the editors' thinking on why that article appeared. I hope this information helps. Thank you.
Thank you for your comments, which I am including in a report to editors on what readers say about Times coverage. Let me address the concerns raised by most readers.
Regarding the necessity of printing the story at all: These allegations have been swirling around Mr. Schwarzenegger for years. Once he became a serious candidate for governor, the Times had to examine them; editors believe people have a right to know if these allegations were true. They also believe that voters ought to have the same information the newspaper has, and they should have it before election day, not after.
Some readers have questioned the anonymity of several of the women in the article. Anonymous sources were included in this article only after extensive interviewing of the women and others who could corroborate their accounts (and in fact, since the story has appeared, Mr. Schwarzenegger has acknowledged and apologized for his past behavior toward women). The Times is in the business of publishing significant information, not concealing it, and that's why the story ran.
The article was published five days before election day because that was the first day it was ready. That the story could not be published sooner reflects two factors: The uniquely short duration of this election campaign and difficulty of finding the women, interviewing them and corroborating their stories. Once Schwarzenegger announced in August, The Times assigned several reporters to look into the allegations, mindful that the election cycle was short. When the reporting was done, editors found themselves facing the prospect of publishing just before the election. They therefore faced the decision of either dropping the story because of the timing, or publishing it and letting the readers and voters make their own judgment.
Finally, The Times has also reported thoroughly on other candidates, pursuing leads that have come up in the course of investigating those individuals and publishing articles that include:
1. A major Sunday story delineating the full case against Governor Davis; extensive coverage of his campaign contributors and their links to government. 2. Disclosures that Arianna Huffington paid almost no state income taxes and that her campaign manager was a tobacco lobbyist. 3. Enterprising coverage of Bustamante's acceptance of Indian casino money; an examination of his campaign manager, Richie Ross, and his lobbying clients; an investigation of a piece of investment property Bustamante owns; an article on Bustamante's brother's problems. 4. An article on the religious beliefs of McClintock's deputy campaign manager, which were disavowed by McClintock; and reporting of his taxpayer-financed perks.
Again, I'm sorry you believe this story didn't belong in the Los Angeles Times, but I hope this goes some way toward explaining why editors thought it was both responsible and newsworthy.
Jamie Gold Readers' Representative
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; conservativebashing; davislapdog; davislegacy; dirtytricks; dirypolitics; doublestandard; hypocrisy; lat; latimes; lyingliars; mediabias; octobersurprise; schwarzenegger; slime; smearcampaign
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Clearly a form letter. It was sent to me by someone at the LA Times named Mary Sanchez. I'm sure she would love to hear from all of you, her return email address is: Mary.Sanchez@latimes.com.
I'm going to reply back, but before I do I was hoping that some of you could give me a little help as to what my response should be.
To: All
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
"The Times is in the business of publishing significant information, not concealing it, and that's why the story ran.
The article was published five days before election day because that was the first day it was ready."
They know no shame. They also think their readers are stupid.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
I'm going to reply back, but before I do I was hoping that some of you could give me a little help as to what my response should be. Cancel your subscription.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
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To: truthkeeper
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posted on
10/6/2003, 9:52:51 PM
by
mewzilla
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
"I'm going to reply back, but before I do I was hoping that some of you could give me a little help as to what my response should be. "
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"I am canceling my LATimes subscription, effective now, as a result of your smear camapaign and ludicrous reply to my letter."
Sincerely,
XXX
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Over a thousand people already canceled their subsctiption because of it, I bet there are even more by now. That is the only language they understand.
You could pick apart all of their statements, since most of them are pathetic excuses.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
I am disgusted that the Times would print an article on someone groping women's butts and breasts, like some kind of sexual harrasser, the story is so repulsive, no person could have done this...
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posted on
10/6/2003, 9:53:31 PM
by
Fred
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
I was hoping that some of you could give me a little help as to what my response should be. Use your new FR screen-name. That should scare them, because everybody knows that InfamousAngryWhiteMales are dangerous. Just ask Chief Moose.
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posted on
10/6/2003, 9:53:34 PM
by
Tijeras_Slim
(There's two types of people in the world. Those with loaded guns and those that dig.)
To: truthkeeper
I don't subscribe to the Slimes. I have been buying it at lunch from a vending machine, but will NEVER buy it again.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
Ask them why their reporters are covering up accusations that Davis was abusive toward his staff. More info here...
http://www.jillstewart.net/
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
Let me guess, without reading.
"< blink, blink > Who, us? We have nothing but the highest ideals in objective journalism! We check everything thoroughly! We have no ideological bias! We are evenhanded and without political leanings!"
Something like that?
Dan
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posted on
10/6/2003, 9:54:24 PM
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
Ask why they never printed the story of Davis' physical assault of two of his assistants.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
Jill Stewart just made a statement on FOX that according to LA Times sources she has spoken with, the Times sat on the story for at least TWO weeks.
To: truthkeeper
"Cancel your subscription".
...I gotta agree there. One should never argue with fools, or as my gramps used to say, "never get in a pissing contest with skunks".
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posted on
10/6/2003, 9:59:45 PM
by
Graybeard58
(Don't squat with your spurs on.)
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
Ask them why their alleged newspaper won't print damaging accounts of Gray Davis's violent tirades and physical assaults on his office staff.
And ask them if they really think their dwindling reader base is stupid enough to buy this attempt to spin this smear job on Schwarzenegger after they slept through a dozen episodes ranging from gropes to rape by Sick Willie.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
The Los Angeles Times had two years to develop this story if it was important. That they waited until they could do political damage to Schwarzenegger to run it, is evidence enough of their treachery.
I might also add, they had at least five years time to deveop a story about Gray Davis and the woman he caused to have a nervous breakdown, and her inability to return to her job.
Schwarzenegger has never been charged with costing anyone their job. So much for even-handed reporting.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
I just asked Mary why they didn't publish the accusations that Gray Davis is an office batterer and that he had sex with a fourteen year old on the beach in Hawaii.
I'm waiting for her reply.
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
I'm going to reply back, but before I do I was hoping that some of you could give me a little help as to what my response should be. I would be curious to know why they could sling mud just a few days before elections, using unsubstanciated, unwitnessed and anonymous accusers; yet could not say anything about Gray Davis's abuse of women in his office. On the conservative side, we have un-named, unwitnessed accusations that are 30 years old, but on the DEM side, we have witnesses, victims and facts that are less than 1 year old... unbiased, my sweet backside.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/996080/posts
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posted on
10/6/2003, 10:01:37 PM
by
Hodar
(With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: InfamousAngryWhiteMale
Regarding the necessity of printing the story at all: These allegations have been swirling around Mr. Schwarzenegger for years. Once he became a serious candidate for governor, the Times had to examine them; editors believe people have a right to know if these allegations were true. They also believe that voters ought to have the same information the newspaper has, and they should have it before election day, not after.
The seriousness of the charge?

Wonder if this photographed and video grope of a stewardess' inner thigh (without her consent) was given front page coverage in LA. Wonder if the rape allegations against President Clinton were considered front page news?<
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posted on
10/6/2003, 10:02:10 PM
by
weegee
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