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California Recall Live Thread

Posted on 10/07/2003 5:34:25 AM PDT by Sabertooth



Do it California. Post here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: adiosdavis; bewaredemvotefraud; ccrm; militaryvote; presstitutes
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To: ambrose
Its still double digit by your own figures. If the news were really bad, I'd think Press would rub the Republicans faces in it.
901 posted on 10/07/2003 2:03:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kkindt
As a California resident don't you think it is unfair to the voters who vote 49% to keep Davis to then put in office a person who only gets 34% of the electorate voting?

That is not what democracy is all about is it? How would you feel if your candidate got 49% and lost to someone who only got 34% of the vote?

When Gray Davis is recalled, it will be because 20% of is own voters wanted to get rid of him.


902 posted on 10/07/2003 2:03:42 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: ambrose
Fox just reported HISTORICAL RECORD NUMBER at the polls! BIG WOOPI! WHAT ARE THE EXIT POLLS?!! DANG IT!
903 posted on 10/07/2003 2:03:46 PM PDT by RoseofTexas (r)
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To: AAABEST
He's an immoral, brainless pig with a rancid political philosophy

Well, you are the expert on "rancid".

904 posted on 10/07/2003 2:04:11 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: ambrose; William McKinley
ambrose, your link isn't working for me.
905 posted on 10/07/2003 2:04:15 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: kkindt
Not only is that "enshrined" in CA law, but it has been challenged by Davis through the entire court system and found valid.

Here is the point -- the RECALL ballot question and the "NEW GOVERNOR" question on the ballot are seperate questions. Period.

If Californians, in compliance with the state Constitution, complete a majority vote to remove the current governor from office, then that question is settled.

Your point that Davis may lose to someone getting 35% of the vote is incorrect and is faulty logic. Davis will have lost to "NO MORE DAVIS." That is what he is _LITERALLY_ "running against."

To continue the point, _IF_ Davis is removed, then if say, Peter Camejo were to win amongst the candidates for Governor -- Camejo would *not* have "beaten Davis." He would have defeated the various 100+ other candidates but NOT Davis -- Davis is running aginst "NO MORE DAVIS." That is a proper extrapolation of the ballot.

If you don't like the State Constitution, fine. I'm guessing you don't like the USA Constitution either, since a similar argument ("how would you feel if...") could be made about the 2000 presidential election.
906 posted on 10/07/2003 2:04:32 PM PDT by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: RoseofTexas
The news just keeps getting better and better! I can only imagine what they're saying over at DU...
907 posted on 10/07/2003 2:04:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: honeygrl
Thanks for that link.
908 posted on 10/07/2003 2:05:24 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: veronica
Shoulda, coulda, woulda... DIDN'T. Get over it. Did you ever consider that his presence in the race may just make "NO" on recall more viable? There are a lot of conservatives who would rather take Davis over Bustagut and don't see the point in getting all worked up over "liberal-in-conservative-clothing" (R)nold.

It may just be that McC's presence will help ensure part 1 goes right so you can have your way on part 2.

And, if God is merciful, Tom just might pull it out...

909 posted on 10/07/2003 2:05:37 PM PDT by pgyanke (God doesn't compromise... and He didn't call us to either!)
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To: ambrose
Quit trying to get everyone upset. There is no point to any of it except documenting what is happening and getting everyone to turn out.

I was certain they would try to steal this. Whether they are successful or not depends on the turnout, plain and simple.

By the way, I just got a call from a catalog company in California so I asked the young man if he had voted. He was Hispanic, and acted rather befuddled when I asked him (in a non-political, cheery way). He told me he was at work. I told him to remember to vote (but I don't think he will). There is an anecdote at least as good as those interviews on CNN. LOL!

910 posted on 10/07/2003 2:06:00 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: PRND21
Cruz voted for Arnold!
911 posted on 10/07/2003 2:06:01 PM PDT by petercooper (Unfortunately, l live in a blue state)
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To: veronica
Sorry, but McClintock should have dropped out.

If a Republican wins today, I'll be looking forward to all of the hysterical "McClintock must drop out, all is lost otherwise, his voters just want to elect Bustamente, *SCREECH*!" Freepers to admit they were wrong and apologize for all of the vile attacks they've made on their fellow Freepers who have disagreed.

But I sure won't be holding my breath...

912 posted on 10/07/2003 2:06:17 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Support Free Republic
FoxNews just now reporting: Approx 3.1 million absentees sent out; 2.1 million have been returned.
913 posted on 10/07/2003 2:06:39 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: petercooper
LOL! Now that would be the icing on the cake! ;-)
914 posted on 10/07/2003 2:06:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: concerned about politics
We are the laughing stock of any country with real news.

What a bunch of DUmmies--I was looking through a newspaper yesterday here in Sweden, and other than stuff about Shwarzenegger, the news on the front page was about why shouldn't little boys be wearing pink? (Can't make this stuff up!)
915 posted on 10/07/2003 2:07:00 PM PDT by Rutabega (somebody help, I can't do HTML! (and it's very late in Sweden!))
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To: kkindt
"As a California resident don't you think it is unfair to the voters who vote 49% to keep Davis to then put in office a person who only gets 34% of the electorate voting?"

I'm not a California resident but I don't think its unfair at all. You are considering two different elections here. On the recall if more than 50% of the voters want a new governor, then they can elect a new governor. In this case a lot of candidates are running, the percent of the votes the winner receives is a function, in part, of how many people are running. If only two were running the winner would have a higher percentage than the 49% no recall vote.

916 posted on 10/07/2003 2:07:11 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: TomGuy
So, where are the missing 1 million?!?!
917 posted on 10/07/2003 2:07:29 PM PDT by riri
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To: Ichneumon
Even if Arnold wins, I will still be saying McClintock should have dropped out.
918 posted on 10/07/2003 2:07:55 PM PDT by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: pgyanke
Did God tell you that voting in a fashion that elects Godless democrats is being obedient?
919 posted on 10/07/2003 2:07:57 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: veronica




Sorry, but McClintock should have dropped out.

The problem wasn't Tom, it was Arnold's positions on too many issues.

Running to the center before consolidatingt on the right is never a unifying strategy for California Republicans running statewide.


920 posted on 10/07/2003 2:08:03 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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