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Jeb Bush supports therapy for brain-damaged Florida woman; feeding tube removal set Oct. 15
AP Wire (breaking story) | October 7, 2003 | VICKIE CHACHERE

Posted on 10/07/2003 12:43:25 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Hildy
I'm not certain what you're asking.
61 posted on 10/07/2003 5:18:43 PM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: marron
Yeah, but then he wouldnt' get the money left over. Not that there is much left. The swine deserves not a penny.

Michelle
62 posted on 10/07/2003 5:24:59 PM PDT by sunryse
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for posting the e-mail, MHGinTN. It certainly is clearly and beautifully written, and was a real pleasure to read.
63 posted on 10/07/2003 5:26:13 PM PDT by syriacus (Prankin' Al Franken said---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03 to H Kurtz)
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To: NYer
To think we have some people who actually condone this sort of thing that is going on with Terri is simply unbelievable! I hope it is because they just don't understand the circumstances. The comparison with the dog is great. You ought to mail that little tidbit to the judge!
64 posted on 10/07/2003 5:41:48 PM PDT by MistyCA (For some...it's always going to be "A Nam Thing!")
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To: Hildy
Convicted him? Whether or not her husband is ever convicted is a separate issue from whether or not a state in our country should be allowed to put an innocent woman to death by starvation!
65 posted on 10/07/2003 5:57:55 PM PDT by MistyCA (For some...it's always going to be "A Nam Thing!")
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To: Hildy
I don't think anyone should have to live in this physical state, being taken care of by strangers. Go ahead and attack me.

How altruistic of you! You would rather Terri die than to live being cared for by strangers. Interesting! How would you feel about it if the people who wanted to care for her were her OWN FAMILY! They don't want Terri in a hospice, because that's not where Terri belongs. They want to take care of her at home! You show your ignorance of the real truth by your statements. Bring us your questions and doubts, and we'll find true answers to them!

66 posted on 10/07/2003 6:18:46 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: NautiNurse
Tell me again why it is that this man won't just let her parents take care of her, please.
67 posted on 10/07/2003 6:20:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Canadian Outrage
Hi CO we as usual agree on this issue also
68 posted on 10/07/2003 6:24:20 PM PDT by fiesti
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To: Hildy
So you've convicted him, eh?

Just remember, convicted is the word you chose. I would call what we have towards Michael is doubt, because very little of what he says and does makes any sense. We have our suspicions, but that's a far cry from conviction. What we give Michael is much more than he gives Terri. He has never given her the benefit of a doubt. He's the one who is convinced that she's a vegetable. Looks to me like Michael has convicted Terri of more than any of us have convicted him!

69 posted on 10/07/2003 6:28:41 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Howlin
You would have to ask him that one. Mind you, he's living with his other mate, has one child with her and another on the way, but refuses to seek out divorce.

What motives does this make you think up? I realize we are not putting the guy on trial here, but what do you really think is behind his actions?

There are, literally, tons of speculations on this and some are somewhat valid. The only thing of note, however, is that he is living in open adultery (a crime in Florida) and it should disqualify him to act as Terri's guardian. Judge Greer refused to remove him.

He also has a major conflict of interest as he inherits anything Terri leaves behind upon death (medical trust fund and anything else in her name), yet he is the one petitioning the courts for the pursuit of her death. An independent Guardian ad Litem called this a conflict of interest and was handed his hat and coat.

Pity no one wants to follow the laws in Florida.
70 posted on 10/07/2003 6:37:14 PM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: OldFriend
God help you, you may live one day to regret your words. Miracles DO happen .. NO ONE knows what is to come. If that would ever happen to me, God forbid, I pray someone would love me enough to not throw me away:

Recovery from Coma Is a Reality for Many Patients

By Liz Townsend

The diagnosis of coma has become one of the biggest battlegrounds in medical care. While some doctors insist that comatose patients will never recover and should be starved or dehydrated to death, examples of people who have emerged from comas to live full and productive lives can be found across the country.

Such diagnoses are fraught with subjective interpretations and can be used as justification to withhold treatment and care from helpless patients.

"Coma" is actually a very broad term that indicates the patient is unable to respond to his or her environment. Dr. Mihai Dimancescu, chairman of the board of the Coma Recovery Association, writes on the group's web site that coma should be defined as "a state of unresponsiveness from which an individual has not yet been aroused." Many patients emerge from comas, even after months in the condition.

Dr. Dimancescu explains that the characteristics of coma vary from patient to patient, with some people able to hear what is going on around them even if they cannot interact with anyone. "While a person described as being in a coma may be totally unaware of his or her state or environment," he writes, "others may have some or even full awareness, contrary to our own perception of their condition." Medical science has not yet advanced enough to be able to determine exactly why most comas occur or which patients will survive and which will not.

He tells of 23-year-old Judy, who was in a coma for three months. A professor, making daily rounds with his medical students, would pass by Judy's bed every day, saying, "Judy is in a coma. She'll never wake up." According to Dr. Dimancescu, Judy came out of her coma and told him she "always remembered that darn professor refusing to stop by her bed, saying that she would not wake up!"

Patients like Judy, dismissed by medical caregivers as all but dead, can and do wake up. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch published an extensive profile of Brian Cressler, who spent 18 months in a coma caused by a car accident a few weeks after his high school graduation in June 1991.

Cressler's parents, Don and Fran, took him home from St. Louis University Hospital in January 1992. Brian couldn't move or talk, his eyes locked in a blank stare. "It was a look that went right through you," said Fran Cressler, according to the Post-Dispatch.

The Cresslers cared for him, hired a physical therapist to keep his muscles from atrophying, and didn't stop hoping. A year and a half after the accident, they noticed a change.

"You could see a slow awakening," Fran Cressler told the Post-Dispatch. "It was like he was talking through his eyes. They just came alive."

He started speaking six months later -- his first word was "Mom." "It was pure joy," Mrs. Cressler said.

Although Brian's body will never be the same since his accident -- he only has partial use of one limb and has memory problems and seizures -- he is able to do many things with the help of his parents, his wheelchair, and a specially trained dog named Sara.

The doctors who treated him right after his accident are astonished by his progress. "When I think about Brian, I think about when I first saw him in the intensive care unit and so close to death," neurosurgeon Robert J. Bernardi told the Post-Dispatch. "Now, when his parents come in with pictures of him hitting tennis balls in his wheelchair and swimming laps in a pool, it's hard to imagine."

Brian Cressler's story is remarkable, but not unique. Patients who emerge from coma have often received therapy consistently, to stimulate their brains and keep their bodies moving.

There is a growing "recognition that people who have some kind of a brain injury, even if they're in a coma for several weeks, do have the potential for recovery," Dr. Dimancescu told the National Catholic Register. "New connections can be made between brain cells where connections have been lost. Parts of the brain take over the function of other parts that have been lost."

The challenge is to convince doctors and hospitals to give the patients time to wake from a coma.

"Particularly with older patients, the medical community will say, 'They're not going to wake up, and they've already lived their lives, so how about we disconnect them from all the machinery?'" Paulette Demato, program coordinator for the Coma Recovery Association, told the Register.

Families are often "not given the opportunity to wait and see what happens," Demato added. "Very often the medical community will try to force a family's hand" and convince the family to stop treatment, even to cause death by starvation and dehydration by removing the feeding tube.

Even patients who spend years in a coma-like state have come fully back to consciousness. Patricia White Bull of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was unresponsive for 16 years after suffering a lack of oxygen while giving birth to her son Mark, the Associated Press (AP) reported.

On Christmas Eve 1999, while nurses were fixing her bed, she suddenly said, "Don't do that," according to the AP. By early January she was able to speak clearly and visit with her four children. "I just went up to her and gave her a hug, and she gave me a hug back," her oldest child Cindi told the Albuquerque Journal. "It was the first time she had ever hugged back. It was scary at first. It was overwhelming emotionally."

Her doctors, who told her family that White Bull would remain in a "vegetative state" her whole life, could not explain why she regained consciousness, the AP reported. Her mother called it a "Christmas miracle from God."

Real-life stories about people recovering from coma demonstrate that doctors must take greater care before they declare that a patient will "never wake up." Dr. Dimancescu told the Register that "misconception number one" about coma patients is the idea that "once somebody's been in a coma for a week or more the situation is irreversible."

He added that "doctors' predictions are often wrong."

71 posted on 10/07/2003 6:39:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (W: the Right Man when we needed him the most ... our blessing from God. Thank you, God.)
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To: Howlin
Michael Schiavo's attorney Felos exploited Terri (much like NOW used Norma M. aka 'Jane Roe' of Roe vs. Wade) to push his own 'new age' right-to-kill agenda, appearing on major talk and news shows and writing a book. Terri's survival and possible improvement would hurt his reputation and damage the BIG (pro-socialist) death agenda.

Right-to-kill saves the state money (and provides organs). It's being promoted internationally by those who don't believe in God, but believe they know what's best for humanity, eg Margaret Sanger and Joseph Mengele (sp).

Imho.

72 posted on 10/07/2003 6:44:16 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Nobody ever said we can't afford to defeat Hitler." ~ Ollie North, 10/7)
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To: All
Site for the above:

http://www.nrlc.org/news/2001/NRL10/coma.html
73 posted on 10/07/2003 6:48:38 PM PDT by STARWISE (W: the Right Man when we needed him the most ... our blessing from God. Thank you, God.)
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To: Coleus
Thanks for the heads up!
74 posted on 10/07/2003 6:53:50 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Honestly, I don't really care. That's the truth.
75 posted on 10/07/2003 6:55:56 PM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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To: fiesti
Hi fiesti!! Nice to see you again. Are you coming back soon???
76 posted on 10/07/2003 7:12:49 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Hildy
I'm glad you admitted the truth. Now everyone who reads this will know your true character, and you don't have to hide behind the pretense of caring whether or not Terri lives a certain way or not. The truth, as you said, is that you simply don't care. Wow! Then why do you bother? Do you think you'll change our minds? I expect not. So then maybe you're a troll. Don't you have anything better to do with your time? Maybe you should get back to living!
77 posted on 10/07/2003 7:16:59 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Ohioan from Florida
OK...
78 posted on 10/07/2003 7:17:50 PM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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To: STARWISE
Thank you. That was a very good article!
79 posted on 10/07/2003 7:19:40 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Ohioan from Florida
You're welcome. I've mailed to to Gov. Jeb.
80 posted on 10/07/2003 7:26:45 PM PDT by STARWISE (W: the Right Man when we needed him the most ... our blessing from God. Thank you, God.)
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