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I am a fundamentalist.
the Baptist Corpsman | 21 oct 03 | Darren Morrison

Posted on 10/21/2003, 5:54:05 PM by RMrattlesnake

I am a fundamentalist.

I am a fundamentalist. I believe the holy bible to be the word of GOD and that it is perfect. I believe that any thing that is contrary to the bible has to be false for the bible is the measure of the truth. All 66 books in the bible are perfectly in sync with one another even though it was written over thousands of years by inspired men who did not know each other. There are no errors if you have the correct version for your language. Refer to my essay on the Authorized version, to understand were I stand there. I believe in Creation, the fall of man, the virgin birth and every claim of the bible. If the Bible says it I believe it and that is that. John 17:17. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

As a fundamentalist I not only believe the bible but need to live by it. 2 Timothy 3:16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:. The bible is the only Doctrine that I will ever use. I am a fallen sinner and as such am prone to error. I pray that if I begin to adopt a non-biblical doctrine that I am called on it and that pride will not hinder me from ridding myself of any false doctrine.

The scriptures is my guide. I will use it to make my choices in life. Psalms 119:105. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Like a flashlight in a world of darkness the bible keeps me free of dangers.

The bible was written for every man and it is all he needs to know GOD. It is not for any persons own interpretation but it is for all to understand. 2 Peter 1:19. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. The bible is spoken by GOD, for us to hear, when we hear the bible we hear GOD’s word.

Creation is not a theory it is a fact. GOD did create the universe in 6 literal days. Genesis 1:1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Man did not come from a monkey via the route of primordial soup. Genesis 2:7. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Man lived among the dinosaurs and the earth isn’t 50 million years old. Creation is fact and Science has never come up with any fact that has disproved this fact and they never will. Evolution is a theory based upon theories and from old bone and unreliable data. Evolution is a tool of the Devil to create doubt in young people’s minds. Racism is a product of evolution because in the book of Genesis the origin of all men leads back to Adam, black white red or yellow we are all of the seed of Adam and no one is inferior to any other, otherwise the bible would have said. The idea the whites are superior came out of Darwin’s books and not the bible.

I am against racism. Not like the liberals who patronizes people of color as long as they vote and follow there political agenda, but when they stray like Clarence Thomas, Alan Keys according to Liberals they lose there right to be of another race. Believe me Liberals, the liberal socialist think they are not racist but most of them are as racist as Hitler. Genesis 1:27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. He created them male and female. There is no mention of the color of their skin. That is because it was of no difference to GOD. Race is not a biblical idea. Darwin was the one who invented it. Hitler got the Idea the super race was strait out of evolution. Matthew 28:19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. We are to witness to all men no matter the color of their skin. We and all men are equal deserving hell and needing GOD’s grace.

I believe in the fallen nature of mankind. Man was created innocent under the law of GOD, but voluntarily transgressed from sinlessness and joyfulness to a state of sinfulness. The consensus is that all mankind had inherited his nature of sin and transgression of GOD’s law. We all have inherited Adam’s sinful nature yet we own our sins just as he did. What I mean is we did not inherit his sin but the willful nature of sin, we are all sinners because we have all willingly sinned in our lives. Genesis 3:6-24. This story is a real event and it happened just as GOD said it did.

I believe in the flood. The story of Noah is real and is not just some tale but a real event. I do not agree with those who claim the rock formation on mount Ararat in Turkey. Genesis 8:4. And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. You see it rested on the mountains of Ararat, that is like the Rocky Mountain. Not a particular mountain, but an entire range of mountain that start in Iraq and extend into the former Soviet Union. I do not need to see the ark to believe the flood happened. I know it happened because GOD says it happened.

I believe in the virgin birth. Jesus was born of a virgin woman. Mary was blessed but she is not omniscient nor should she ever be prayed to. Jesus was the only person ever to be born in this manner. Isaiah 7:14. Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Jesus was and is GOD. While he was here on Earth he was a man in flesh like you and me. He was born of a virgin so he did not inherit Adam’s sin. Though I was not there to witness this miracle I do not need to. I am a fundamentist and therefore believe every thing that is in the bible to be a fact.

I believe in the bodily resurrection as the bible says. I believe he dead and on the third day he rose in a bodily form. Matthew 28:6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. 7. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. Jesus rose in the flesh, as he said. He was not a spirit but real flesh and bones. Luke 24:39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Being fundamental, on every thing biblical, I count the bible as the authority in every matter of living. Proverbs 30: 5. Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. It is only the word of GOD if it follows the original text. The Authorized version is the only one in English that does that.

Homosexuality is am abomination as it is said in God’s word. Leviticus 20:13. If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. The word Abomination means Disgust. GOD says he hold Homosexuality in disgust and so should we. Yes we should have pity on them but we should not give in to liberal beliefs that it is okay. If we love our neighbor we ought to tell them when they are in sin. The liberals allow them to live in sin assuring them that it is okay. That is not love. Is it love to tell someone that drinking poison is an acceptable lifestyle? 1 Corinthians 6:9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.

Abortion is murder. Exodus 20:13. Thou shalt not kill. You see the word here is kill and as we know that kill can be used in a number of ways. Like I need to kill some weeds in the yard, when I go hunting I kill some animals or that marine killed some Iraqi soldiers. However if we study through the scripture we will know that those types of killing is not sin. God is talking about the taking of innocent life or to kill other than in self defense or in war. It would be sin if you killed someone because there were simply in the way. That is what abortion is 99% of all abortions are only done because the innocent child was simply in the way. A person who has there baby aborted, in no different than Cain. Genesis 4:10. And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. The Blood of all those babies cry up to GOD for vengeance. The only hope for someone who has had a Abortion or someone who encouraged someone else to have and abortion or a Infanticide Doctor, is that they repent. I surely would not want to be in their shoes.


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1 posted on 10/21/2003, 5:54:05 PM by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake
Hello RM,

Good post. In the P.C.A (Presbyterian Church of America) our doctrine is that we believe the Word of God is inerrant in it's orginal form. I.E. that God supernaturally oversaw the writing of the 66 books of the Bible.

Thus we are not thrown by accusations of Biblical errors, because we can go back to the closest forms of Hebrew and Greek (the original languages of the Bible). The amazing thing is that despite many years and new finds prove the accuracy of the Bible rather than disprove it (as so many enemies of scripture have found out [and some been converted]).

I have been reading the Bible for 30 years and am always amazed to find out new things every day. The Bible is truly inexhaustable and unlike any other book you can find. The more you memorize it, the more the Holy Spirit works in your life.

No other book comes close to claiming what the Bible does. It claims to have an accurate record of the beginning and prophesy of the end of the earth. It reveals the only Son of God, Christ Jesus, and His Lordship over all mankind (John 17:2).

The key to the Bible is the "Scarlet Thread", the promise of Christ's sacrifice and attonment in the Old Testament and His fullfillment of it in the New.

After centuries of attacks and book burnings, the Bible stands out as pure gold in a world that would rather have hay, stubble and dirt.

2 posted on 10/21/2003, 6:26:43 PM by sr4402
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To: PatrickHenry
Thought you might want to see this....
3 posted on 10/21/2003, 7:17:39 PM by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
Interesting. But not a science subject, which is the reason for my ping list. This thread is for the religion forum.
4 posted on 10/21/2003, 7:27:00 PM by PatrickHenry
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To: RMrattlesnake
Everyone's entitled to their beliefs, but don't mistake belief and fact. You can't use bible quotations to prove that everything in the bible is true. That's what's known as a circular argument.
5 posted on 10/21/2003, 7:39:22 PM by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: RMrattlesnake
Interesting - but what is the point of posting this here instead of your personal profile page? Not trying to stir trouble, but I am missing the point of the post.

BTW, apart from the KJV reference, there is nothing in here that I disagree with.

6 posted on 10/21/2003, 7:50:04 PM by LiteKeeper
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To: RMrattlesnake
All 66 books in the bible are perfectly in sync with one another

And I know the Bible has exactly 66 books because the Bible says so. It's right there in the Table of Contents!

7 posted on 10/21/2003, 8:55:50 PM by findingtruth
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To: findingtruth
And I know the Bible has exactly 66 books because the Bible says so. It's right there in the Table of Contents!

Except for the billion or so of us whose Bible contains 73 books.
8 posted on 10/22/2003, 1:19:16 AM by Conservative til I die
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To: sr4402; CARepubGal
Here's another one!

Yea PCA!
9 posted on 10/22/2003, 1:28:07 AM by Gamecock
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To: Conservative til I die
From The Translators Revived by Alexander McClure

The reasons assigned for not admitting the apocryphal books into the canon, or list, of inspired Scriptures are briefly the following.

1. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.

2. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.

3. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.

4. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.

5. The contain fabulous statement, and statments which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.

6. It inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.

7. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.

From the Answer Book by Dr. Samuel Gipp, Th.D

QUESTION: Didn't the King James Bible when first printed contain the Apocrypha?

ANSWER: Yes.

EXPLANATION: Many critics of the perfect Bible like to point out that the original King James had the Apocrypha in it as though that fact compromises its integrity. But several things must be examined to get the factual picture.
First, in the days in which our Bible was translated, the Apocrypha was accepted reading based on its historical value, though not accepted as Scripture by anyone outside of' the Catholic church. The King James translators therefore placed it between the Old and New Testaments for its historical benefit to its readers. They did not integrate it into the Old Testament text as do the corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts.
That they rejected the Apocrypha as divine is very obvious by the seven reasons which they gave for not incorporating it into the text. They are as follows:
1. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.
2. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.
3. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.
4. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.
5. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.
6. It inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.
7. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.
If having the Apocrypha between the Testaments disqualifies it as authoritative, then the corrupt Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts from Alexandria, Egypt must be totally worthless since their authors obviously didn't have the conviction of the King James translators and incorporated its books into the text of the Old Testament thus giving it authority with Scripture.

10 posted on 10/22/2003, 2:22:23 AM by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Con X-Poser; GrandEagle; maestro; editor-surveyor
PING
11 posted on 10/22/2003, 2:24:41 AM by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: RMrattlesnake; Commander8; Alamo-Girl; xzins; fortheDeclaration; editor-surveyor; Gal.5:1
I am a fundamentalist.

Me too!!

Great Post!!

It is Impossible for Creator/Redeemer God to lie/break His Promises!!

Hebrews 6:18
Titus 1:2

(Romans 10:17)

Maranatha!!

(Continuing to Pray for 'Terri',......all these 'guys' want is a law/state courts to enable them to get 'body' parts fast!!)

Evil 'is' evil!!

Our God 'is' GOOD,....NOT evil!

12 posted on 10/22/2003, 4:18:00 AM by maestro
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To: maestro; RMrattlesnake
Thank you so much for the heads up, maestro! And thank you so much for the beautiful testimony, RMRattlensnake!

I also am a fundamentalist Christian, a Southern Baptist. My testimony is different in a few areas as follows:

The Word of God is alive, He was in the beginning and is God and was made flesh in Jesus. (John 1) Thus my eyes read the Bible, but the Spirit within me reads the Word. I believe this is a great stumbling block to agnostics, because without the indwelling of the Spirit, the Bible is just text, i.e. not alive to them.

I believe that God created the heavens and the earth in six days from His inception space/time coordinates, which based on the inflationary theory and relativity is 15 billion years from our space/time coordinates; I also believe that the time elapsed from Adam’s banishment to now is approximately 6000 years from our space/time coordinates.

More testimony:

What is [a Christian] man?

Scriptures and Origins (including the Patriarchs)

Evolution through the Backdoor


13 posted on 10/22/2003, 5:16:58 AM by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Your#13.......Wow!!

Thanks for your testimony!

Your points made are 'Fundamental-Foundational'.....Amen!

I agree 100% with you,....but MORE,...'It is Written'.....Forever!!!

(Romans 10:17)

:-)

Maranatha!!

14 posted on 10/22/2003, 5:32:05 AM by maestro
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To: maestro
Maranatha, dear Maestro! Peace and love in Christ!
15 posted on 10/22/2003, 5:33:26 AM by Alamo-Girl
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To: Commander8
1. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.

Which Old Testament? The one used by the Sadducees, the Pharisees, or the Greek Jews of the diaspora who vastly outnumbered the former groups of Jews? The Old Testament was not codified by the Jews until long after Christ's time.

2. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.

Why would being divinely inspired necessitate claiming inspiration?

3. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.

Again, which Jewish church? The Saduccees in Christ's time only acknowleged the Pentatuech, the Pharisees had an expanded version, but it was the Greek Septaguint most commonly used by Jews for three hundred years before Christ, and which did include the deuterocanonicals. It was the Septaguint that was the scripture of the apostles.

4. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.

What evidence is there for that claim?

5. The contain fabulous statement, and statments which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.

That's kind of hilarious, that someone could claim that a book of the bible should be omitted because it makes a fabulous claim, as if the story of the exodus of the Jews and Moses's dealings with Ramses II aren't quite fabulous.

6. It inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.

Protestant reformers had some theological hang-ups and preferred that scripture didn't support them. If Luther had his way, James and Jude would be omitted from the New Testament.

7. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.

Yeah right. Any Church, and that would include the Ethiopian Jews, that have retained the deuterocanonicals teach immoral practices such as lying and assassination. Complete balderdash.

16 posted on 10/22/2003, 6:31:52 AM by St.Chuck
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To: RMrattlesnake; 4ConservativeJustices
If this interests you at all, read these replies in light of what we talked about concerning Rev. 17:5 and abominations.

God is so mixed up He had to create ten thousand denominations to explain Himself properly [/sarcasm]

17 posted on 10/22/2003, 11:13:55 AM by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: Modernman
You can't use bible quotations to prove that everything in the bible is true. That's what's known as a circular argument.
No, not exactly. For example, If you say "The President of the United States lives in the White House", the only way to PROVE that he does is to look in the White House.
You can use other supporting evidence like follow him and see where he goes at night; you can talk to his friends and see what they know, along with other things; but the only way to prove it is to actually go look in the White House.
18 posted on 10/22/2003, 12:40:39 PM by GrandEagle
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To: Ff--150
God is so mixed up He had to create ten thousand denominations to explain Himself properly [/sarcasm]

LOL! The only reason there is more than one denomination is because people pick & choose which parts to believe. I honestly think that many look for excuses not to believe a particular passage, or take one completely out of context in an attempt to justify something else.

I believe the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. I believe that the triunal God created the universe and time, and that the days of creation are not artifices but normal 24-hour long days that each had an evening and a morning, to claim otherwise would be contrary to the Word of God. I believe that the God that created the universe can create everything within it in an instant I believe that death had not entered the creation, that billions of years of evolution did not occur, that when God made man in His own image it was just that - not some evolutionary slime that just happened by chance.

I believe that Jesus was born to the virgin Mary, died for our sins, and rose from the dead. He did this because He loved us, yet even so God does not force us to love Him, for forced love is not love. Our sins - MY sins - put him on that cross - His love kept Him there.

I believe that God gave us 10 Commandments, not 10 suggestions. I am sorry for all those other religions whose god is dead, for my God is alive.

Lastly, I know that only God knows the truth, that what is vague to us in the Bible has a perfect explanation, and the only thing that matters is that we believe that Jesus died for our sins. If we believe that, all else will be shown to us - we'll have all eternity to explore and understand.

19 posted on 10/22/2003, 1:00:44 PM by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: GrandEagle
No, not exactly. For example, If you say "The President of the United States lives in the White House", the only way to PROVE that he does is to look in the White House

You're touching on the difference between direct evidence and circumstantial evidence. The old example is that direct evidence means you actually see someone walking over a snowy field while circumstantial evidence means you see that person's footprints in the field and can therefore infer that they walked there. You come to the same conclusion, and both types of evidence are equally valuable.

We can find historical support for parts of the Bible. Can we prove all of it? No. To prove that the Bible is fact, however, you can't just look at Bible verses.

20 posted on 10/22/2003, 1:29:14 PM by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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