Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...

drstevej (Pope Piel I)

[Dahlseide]

Application for inclusion in the GRPL should be accompanied by a suitable historical quote.

I am herewith applying for membership. I cite Luther’s “Bondage of the Will” but for the sake of brevity I will limit myself to one paragraph:

“I shall here end this book, ready though I am to pursue the matter further, if need be; but I think that abundant satisfaction has here been afforded for the godly man who is willing to yield to truth without stubborn resistance. For if we believe it to be true that God foreknows and foreordains all things; that He cannot be deceived or obstructed in His foreknowledge and predestination; and that nothing happens but at His will (which reason itself is compelled to grant); then, on reason’s own testimony, there can be no ‘free will’ in man, or angel, or in any creature.”

Martin Luther, "Bondage of the Will", translated by J. I. Packer & O. R. Johnston, Fleming H. Revell, 1957, Twelfth printing, September 2000, p 317.

[P-Marlowe]

"It is an eternal and gracious decree of God in Christ, by which he determines to justify and adopt believers, and to endow them with life eternal, but to condemn unbelievers, and impenitent persons." James Arminius.

Can I join?

[drstevej]

***Can I join?***

Arise (some mss read Swarm), O Calvinists, and plead your cause. The doctrines of grace are mightily assailed by those who would proclaim with their father, “I will be like the Most High.” Set forth the biblical case for a sovereign God who is jealous for His glory. Disallow through disputation (and lampooning when needed) the damnable errors of those who have refashioned the great sola doctrines into a salvation-helper gospel that exalts the fallen will of man.

Please resubmit when your theology improves.

[A.J.Armitage]

Just a note: my screen name has no spaces. If you put a space between the A.J. and the Armitage, it won't work.

[Gamecock]

"It is an eternal and gracious decree of God in Christ, by which he determines to justify and adopt believers, and to endow them with life eternal, but to condemn unbelievers, and impenitent persons." James Arminius

Can I join? p-marlowe

James Arminius

Please resubmit when your theology improves. drstevej

Wise call your most high fishiness

[Gamecock]

Good Morning Michael!

[Wallace T.]

I stand corrected.

[biblewonk]

Leviticus 11:44, cited in 1 Peter 1:16: "You shall be holy, for I am holy"

Yes I thought of that a few seconds after I hit post.

However, I can't agree that hiliness is His most important attribute. I take notice of mosts and greatests and things. I can say who was the greatest man of men born of women, I can say what is the greatest sin because I know what is the greatest commandment. I can say what is the greatest love that a man may have for someone. But I can't thing of a scripture where God tells us what is his greatest attribute and it makes sense that He wouldn't because they are all to great for us to comprehend. To pick a best one would cheapen them all in a way.

[biblewonk]

How about the psalm that repeats, way more than 3 times, "for His mercy endures forever". Bulk of scripture is not the perfect measure of value of scripture. It is also not without significance.

[Gamecock]

Which one please......

[biblewonk]

Which one please......

psalm 136.

Ever use biblegateway.com?

[drstevej]

***There is a verse that says God is love but not one that says God is holiness***

WONKSTER...

1 JOHN 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

The context shows "light" to be a metaphor for moral holiness.

[Aggressive Calvinist]

"Besides this, Christ answered the Samaritan woman: "You worship what you do not now; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews" (John4:22). In these words he both condemns all pagan religions as false and gives the reason that under the law the Redeemer was promised to the chosen people alone.

From this it follows that no worship has ever pleased God except that which looked to Christ. On this basis, also, Paul declares that all heathens are "without God and bereft of hope of life" (Eph. 2:12).

Now, since John teaches that life was in Christ from the beginning (John 1:4), and all the world fell away from it (John 1:10), it is necessary to return to that source. So, also, Christ, inasmuch as he is the propitiator, declares himself to be life (John 11:25; 14:6)"

Institutes of the Christian Religion Book II, Chapter VI "Fallen Man Ought to Seek Redemption in Christ"

by John Calvin

Okay, ping me up. (But can we limit the "Latin"? Even though I can do it, I don't really want to, and it looks like we are showing off)

[Gamecock]

Great Home Page! ;-)

[drstevej]

*** (But can we limit the "Latin"? Even though I can do it, I don't really want to, and it looks like we are showing off)***

Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...

is a parody on:

Exurge, Domini, et judica causam tuam...

the first words of the papal bull which excommunicated Luther and launched the Reformation.

As thread pope the words were carefully chosen to charge the brethren to arise and plead our cause.

Fear not... my Latin limitation will prevent me from making copious Latin quotes -- maybe an occasional pig-Latin quote.

-- Eace-pay e-bay ithway ou-yay

[ponyespresso]

Application for inclusion in the GRPL should be accompanied by a suitable historical quote.

"simul justus et peccator! Pecca fortiter sed fortius fide et gaude in Christo, qui victor est peccati, mortis et mundi" - Martin Luther

Can lurkers be included on the list? If so, I respectfully submit my application to the official GRPL list.

pony

[drstevej]

***...this thread serves as a place for Calvinists to register for inclusion in the of the Great Reformed Ping List. ***

Art thou a Calvinist? If so, you may be included.

[P-Marlowe]

Please resubmit when your theology improves

Free will is unable to begin or to perfect any true and spiritual good, without grace."

"I affirm, therefore, that this grace is simply and absolutely necessary for the illumination of the mind, the due ordering of the affections, and the inclination of the will to that which is good. It is this grace which operates on the mind, the affections, and the will; which infuses good thoughts into the mind, inspires good desires into the actions, and bends the will to carry into execution good thoughts and good desires. This grace goes before, accompanies, and follows; it excites, assists, operates that we will, and co-operates lest we will in vain. It averts temptations, assists and grants succour in the midst of temptations, sustains man against the flesh, the world and Satan, and in this great contest grants to man the enjoyment of the victory. It raises up again those who are conquered and have fallen, establishes and supplies them with new strength, and renders them more cautious. This grace commences salvation, promotes it, and perfects and consummates it." James Arminius

NOW, can I Join?

[opus86]

Not wanting to split hairs, nor fill up the good doctor's ping thread with ancillary topics, but is it accurate to say that one attribute of God is the "chief" (my word) attribute? I had a college class called Christian Thought, in which the idea was relayed that God is both perfectly holy and perfectly loving, and the two attributes were complementary and inseparable.