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Harvard professor joins the buzz about Mary Magdalene
Daily Herald ^ | January 3, 2004 | Richard N. Ostling

Posted on 01/07/2004 9:47:53 AM PST by NYer

Imagine that alongside Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, your New Testament includes a fifth Gospel where "seven Powers of Wrath" interrogate the human soul, accusing it of being a "human-killer" and "space-conqueror."

Imagine further that the soul responds, "I was set loose from a world and in a type, from a type which is above and from the chain of forgetfulness in
time" to enter silent rest during "the time of the due season of the aeon."

And how about a Jesus who says "matter gave birth to a passion which has no Image" and that "there is no such thing as sin"?

There actually was a Gospel that said these things. Although the words sound like musings from some 1960s New Age guru, they appeared in an ancient text known as the "Gospel of Mary." The title referred to the disciple Mary Magdalene, not to Jesus' mother.

The text, rediscovered in 1896 and published in 1941, came from secret-knowledge ("Gnostic") sects that rejected biblical Judaism and orthodox Christianity.

The quotes appear in "The Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the First Woman Apostle" by Karen L. King of Harvard Divinity School. The publisher is Polebridge Press, allied with the left-wing Jesus Seminar in which King participates.

Since most of the original "Mary" text vanished, King's translations of the surviving fragments fill only five pages.

Mary Magdalene is fashionable at the moment thanks to the odd pseudo-historical thriller "The Da Vinci Code." It promotes the ludicrous rumor -- developed many centuries after Jesus' lifetime -- that he married Magdalene and had children who migrated to France. Newsweek ran a cover story on the Magdalene fad with the misleading headline "The Bible's Lost Stories."

Gnosticism is also hot, due to "Beyond Belief," a book about the "Gospel of Thomas" by King's Princeton soulmate Elaine Pagels.

Like Pagels with "Thomas," King would like to believe that "Mary" was a full competitor alongside the New Testament Gospels, though church leaders judged it late and fraudulent.

Dating is crucial for judging authenticity. King's first paragraph states flatly that "Mary" was written "early in the second century" but she waits until Page 183 to explore the debate.

Facts: Most of the "Mary" material that survived is found in a partial manuscript in Egypt's Coptic language, written in the fifth century. We also have two fragments in Greek from the early third century.

Though King doesn't say so, those fragments came a century later than the earliest surviving fragment from the New Testament Gospels. Most scholars conclude that "Mary" originated in the late second century as a Gnostic attack on the earlier New Testament. King mentions that consensus only in her final pages.

What is King's argument for leaping backward a century and putting "Mary" in the time the New Testament was written (as Pagels attempts with "Thomas")? King says the "Mary" topics "fit best in an early second century context," things like women's roles and the meaning of Jesus' life and teachings. But those issues were equally pertinent a century later.

Whatever agenda "Mary" originally promoted, it obviously meets 21st-century desires for a feminist and "spiritual" faith, unshackled from traditional churches and doctrines.

The Gnostic Magdalene was the queen of apostles who supposedly preserved Jesus' secret revelations and told the male apostles what's what. Poor befuddled St. Peter asks, did Jesus "speak with a woman in private without our knowing about it" and did he "choose her over us?"

In the "Mary" version of reality, Jesus and his followers despised material reality and other aspects of their Jewish heritage, sought inner enlightenment without external rules, and preached the future dissolution of matter, the "modeled form" of created beings, the soul's ascending powers and the extermination of desire.

The "Mary" circle saw no saving value in Jesus' death on the cross or his bodily resurrection from the grave, and considered early church leaders illegitimate.

In other words, the Gospel according to "Mary" claimed the New Testament was a big lie.


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1 posted on 01/07/2004 9:47:54 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
And, for those who truly enjoy fantasy, how about this article? The author who wonders ....

Mary Magdalene: Author of the Fourth Gospel?"

2 posted on 01/07/2004 9:56:57 AM PST by NYer
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To: NYer
Great post.. Thanks for the info!
3 posted on 01/07/2004 10:20:29 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: NYer
Fascinating stuff. Keep it coming.
4 posted on 01/07/2004 10:25:35 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: NYer
Poor Mary Magdelene. As if she didn't have enough problems in her early life with those 7 demons, it would appear lately that twentieth century feminists are after her. Magdalene.org. Since she's long deceased we can't hope that the feminists could be cast out of this business and it just doesn't seem fair. :)
5 posted on 01/07/2004 11:50:28 AM PST by xJones
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To: NYer
In the "Mary" version of reality, Jesus and his followers despised material reality and other aspects of their Jewish heritage, sought inner enlightenment without external rules, and preached the future dissolution of matter, the "modeled form" of created beings, the soul's ascending powers and the extermination of desire.

Sounds like Buddhism. Somewhere, satan and his minions are laughing. Still, good to be informed of the what the emperor's newest outfit looks like.

Hopefully not coming soon to a church near you.

;-)

6 posted on 01/07/2004 11:54:26 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: xJones; Salvation; sandyeggo
As if she didn't have enough problems in her early life with those 7 demons, twentieth century feminists are after her

Lol ... it's enough to drive those 7 demons back into her! Did you catch the novena ... mega barf alert!

Reading 2 – Song of Songs 1:2-4

Let him kiss me with kisses of his mouth!
More delightful is your love than wine!
Your name spoken is a spreading perfume –
that is why the maidens love you.
Draw me! –

Reflection:

St. Mary Magdalene, you gave up everyday comforts to be with the Beloved.

He kissed you! . . . and you were caught up in an ecstasy of Divine Love.

He taught you the secrets of His words . . . and now, in a distant time, we hope to have of a glimpse of your greater understanding. Whisper His secrets to our hearts.

He spoke your name as if it were a prayer! And your breath caught in your throat as you replied, “Yeshua”. . . , “Rabbouni!”.

Sing to us the Song of the Bride – His church! Reveal to us our Bridegroom!

7 posted on 01/07/2004 1:05:36 PM PST by NYer
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To: NYer
If a Harvard profesor says it's so, then it must be so....(sarcasm)
8 posted on 01/07/2004 1:34:33 PM PST by bobjam
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To: NYer
Thank you for #7.....I hadn't read that lovely piece of....literature before. You could drive Ipecac out of the market, y'know, and stomach pumps would be a thing of the past.:)

From the website we can also hope to read in the future where the Magdalene's body really lies. Assuming her remains are lying still, of course, but one shouldn't assume anything with this bunch: Where does Magdalene's body lie? - coming soon!.

Prof. Karen L. King is now a professor of divinity at Harvard. She's into gnosticism and goddess studies, and has written books about them. (As an aside, someone should monitor Cotton Mather's grave and clock the rpm.)

9 posted on 01/07/2004 2:22:36 PM PST by xJones
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"We begin by presupposing the following well-settled position: The many positive contributions made by women to the development of the early church have been minimized throughout history."

Not appropriate in the context of a religious discussion, I know, but the only reply I can think of to that is, "Eat my shorts, maggot."
10 posted on 01/07/2004 6:19:39 PM PST by dsc
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Great post! You know I live in the land of Haaaahvaaaahhd University and this stuff is rampant even amongst the lowly unwashed masses. My social circle (would be part of the unwashed masses) includes female friends who drool over this stuff so I have to keep somewhat abreast of it. The recent huge bestseller "The DaVinci Code" has forced me to start to study the phenomenon of feminazi YOPIOG.

Karen L. King doesn't want to rewrite the Bible. But she does want people to take another look at the parts that got left out.

Student of early Christianities:

Karen King emphasizes that early Christianity was marked by an enormous diversity of beliefs and practices, including what we now call Gnosticism, and that 'orthodox' Christianity was simply more successful at defining itself and pushing the other groups to the periphery.

11 posted on 01/07/2004 7:57:32 PM PST by american colleen
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To: dsc
"Eat my shorts, maggot."

These people are keeping themselves in a job, is all. The facts they use are nothing more than conjecture and hopeful maybe's. Helen Reddy hiked up a few notches in order to keep the chattering classes self satisfied that they are smarter and more modern than the big bad patriarchal Church who busted up, with the help of Constantine, all the womyn deacons and secret superior knowledge of the really, really spiritual people.

12 posted on 01/07/2004 8:06:46 PM PST by american colleen
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To: american colleen
"all the womyn deacons and secret superior knowledge of the really, really spiritual people."

Sowell's "Vision of the Anointed" is pertinent, I think. Be it secular or religious, liberalism is one.
13 posted on 01/07/2004 8:11:12 PM PST by dsc
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To: dsc
I have (and have read) "Vision of the Annointed" and I love Mr. Sowell.

You're right, it's all of a piece.

14 posted on 01/07/2004 8:15:47 PM PST by american colleen
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To: american colleen
..it's all of a piece.

And it's all a piece, of ..."

15 posted on 01/07/2004 10:13:51 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Go to the end of the tagline..)
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To: NYer
Is this the Playboy channel version of a 'novena' recited at their special grotto?
16 posted on 01/08/2004 7:29:06 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: xJones
Poor Mary Magdelene. As if she didn't have enough problems in her early life with those 7 demons,

We were taught that Mary Magdalene's greatest gift and the purpose of her mentions in the Gospels is the gift of repentance and amendment of her former, evil ways. I guess the idea of repentance and amendment of purpose is anathema to womyn, not to mention demeaning. Good thing these womyn are busy at work with their new and modern translations, what a blessing to us all that they can finally clarify these teachings for us and free us from the shackles of sin mentality. Oh, thank God they came along to liberate us (dripping sarcasm).

17 posted on 01/08/2004 7:35:56 AM PST by fortunecookie
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