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From previous stories on Bishop Pilla:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1060132/posts

In March, 2002, about two years after leaving the diocese, Charlie [the bishop's former lawyer] says he met again with Bishop Gries. “I met with Bishop Roger and I told him as a friend that he needed to tell Pilla to step down. That's all I said.”

I prod him to continue. “Because of the manner in which all of this had been handled.”

Charlie later says, “The thing that really fried me was the way the church in Cleveland has agreed to ‘infanticize' Anthony. It's like he's a child. ‘Oh, he didn't know this, he didn't know that.' Wait a minute, oh merciful God. Then what's he in charge of one million Catholics for? Yes, Quinn did crazy stuff, but he was a lieutenant, you are the general. Why didn't you stop it?

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/762432/posts

The following appeared in "The Wanderer's" From the Mail Section.:

In Cleveland, which has been racked with the most damaging sex abuse scandals outside of Boston and Los Angeles, diocesan officials, including Bishop Anthony Pilla, maintain a stiff upper lip as some homosexual activists in the chancery and parishes continue to transform parishes into gay-friendly communities. Consider:

The Diocese of Cleveland's official web site (www.dioceseofcleveland.com) greets the viewer with a rainbow flag, and gay activists at the diocese's Gay and Lesbian Family Ministry (GLFM) office are way out and way proud.

One member of the GLFM recorded his experience on an area gay web site of his participation in the Cleveland Gay Pride Parade, informing, "The catholic group had a very nice sized contingent. There were a whole ton of other religious groups as well...Oh, did I mention that I am in the same video as a pornstar?!...Our table was almost across from The Grid's table, so we got to watch Matt Rush shirtless signing autographs and posing for pictures most of the afternoon. I felt so uncouth ogling a pornstar and trying to be a respectable representative of the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland...

"The Stonewall Democrats had the booth next to The Grid, and they had some mighty fine shirtless guys sitting at their table, too. After we took down our table at the pride festival, seven of us from the Catholic group went out to dinner...We also had the same waiter that we had last time...the cute one with attitude."

The author of that revealing letter is the apparent friend of Brian Halderman, a longtime gay activist of the Diocese of Cleveland who recently announced that he is joining the Society of Mary (Marianists) in Dayton.

In another Internet chat thread sent to FTM by a Cleveland reader, Halderman revealed that while a parishioner at Ascension Church (a church plagued by a number of predator priests), he was a chatechist involved in the sacramental preparation of second graders.

Reader, does all this help you understand what bishops such as Clark and Hubbard and Pilla mean by the "lay-run church.

You can contact the diocese of Cleveland toll free at 1-800-869-6525 or by e-mailing:

info@dioceseofcleveland.org

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The official logo for the Diocese of Cleveland Gay and Lesbian Ministry [Warning: This is not a joke]:<

Go see for yourself:

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/mission/index.htm

The official logo for the Diocese of Cleveland Gay and Lesbian Ministry

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The following exchange appeared in an article on a gay convicted priest here in Cleveland. [Note: Burkhart is a gay detective and McBride is the gay priest]:

Burkhart and McBride dined on crab cakes and chatted lightly. After dinner, McBride turned the conversation to the recent Catholic Church scandal. He hoped that, when it was all over, the church would recognize that priests are sexual beings too -- and that some are gay.

"Back in the 1960s, would you have ever come to a place like this?" Burkhart asked. "I mean, in this town, where you were working?"

"Probably not, no," McBride said. "Realistically, in 1960, no."

"And in certain places it looks like the seminary on Saturday night now," Burkhart joked.

"Yeah, that really is how it is," McBride said.

They compared notes on seeing clergy in gay bars. Then Burkhart stammered as he asked McBride a personal question: "So, whenever you had sex . . . were you bound to go to confession and confess it before you said Mass, or . . .?"

"Well, you were supposed to, yes," McBride said.

"Do you think all these priests do?"

"No," McBride said. "I think they changed their minds and decided it's not a sin."

The full article can be found at this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/992919/posts

1 posted on 01/20/2004 9:14:33 AM PST by Akron Al
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To: Salvation; CAtholic Family Association; Loyalist; BlackElk; Maximilian; Antoninus
Please help expose what is going on in Cleveland so that pressure will mount for Bishop Pilla's removal. If you have friends in the Catholic Media encourage them to cover this very disturbing story.
2 posted on 01/20/2004 9:28:22 AM PST by Akron Al
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; Askel5; ...
Dignity and all the other so-called homosexual ministries should be RICO'd.
3 posted on 01/20/2004 9:33:29 AM PST by Loyalist (The scalpel of the abortionist is the sword of Islam.)
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To: Akron Al
Well, looks like our dioscese will be going bankrupt. That is the natural result of lavender coddling.
5 posted on 01/20/2004 9:57:50 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Facts are stubborn things)
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To: Akron Al
Al,
The numbers are coming out at the end of February for all the dioceses! This is going to be quite enlightening.

Will the bishops tell the truth. I know we will all discuss it.

I think the date is February 27th.

11 posted on 01/20/2004 12:56:33 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Akron Al; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; CAtholic Family Association; ...
Prosecutor Bill Mason concluded a seven-month investigation of the diocese that found more than 1,000 people claimed to have been victimized as children by priests and church figures.

Shocking? Not at all, coming from the Cleveland Diocese.

"You reap what you sow"

If this isn't a wakeup call to the Cleveland diocese, nothing is.

15 posted on 01/20/2004 1:19:27 PM PST by NYer ("One person and God make an army." - St. Teresa of Avila)
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To: Akron Al; CAtholic Family Association
BTTT

For the sake of His Sorrowful Passion, have Mercy on us and on the whole world.
25 posted on 01/20/2004 1:34:07 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Akron Al; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
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28 posted on 01/20/2004 1:45:49 PM PST by Coleus (STOPP Planned Parenthood http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/892053/posts)
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I would like to take the time to thank our protestant brothers and sisters for not using this thread the bash us, although I would almost understand it if they did. This is disgusting.

We'll have to return the favor somehow.

33 posted on 01/20/2004 2:10:06 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Akron Al
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

I can't picture the kindom of heaven full of bound adolescent boys and loose priests.

59 posted on 01/21/2004 2:06:17 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: Akron Al
Thank you for keeping us posted on the latest news.
80 posted on 01/21/2004 11:17:23 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Akron Al
Reader, does all this help you understand what bishops such as Clark and Hubbard and Pilla mean by the "lay-run church.

By "lay-run" they mean "gay-run"?

81 posted on 01/21/2004 11:38:19 AM PST by malakhi
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